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Childbirth at RFH

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bellabr · 09/05/2010 11:59

Hello everyone,

I'm 17 weeks pregnancy and this is my first one, so everything is very new to me! I live relatively close to Royal Free and thought it was good hospital, so I got myself registered there. But I was reading some reviews last week and got really shocked with the experience some mothers had there.
Has anyone given birth at RFH recentely? Do you think it's worth changing hospitals - maybe to UCLH, as this is also not far from where I live?

Many thanks for your help!

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Livvie26 · 19/06/2011 12:34

Hi bellabr,
I too am having second thoughts about the royal free because of things written on this site and others - I'm 15 weeks. I've considered staying but hiring a doula or a private midwife to be more of an advocate to insure consistent, accurate care. (The story about blood tests being mixed up was really worrying!) Anyway was just wondering have you decided to switch?

notbothered · 20/06/2011 12:58

hello bellabr,

I had my baby 12 weeks ago at uclh and that was the best decision I ever made. rfh is closer to me, but this hosptal is old and dirty.
I had really traumatic 40h labour and could get a better help. MW's, doctors were all fantastic, clean hospital an rooms are brand new. My DP could stay over night without any problems (3 days in postnatal care). Please think about it because its your 1st pregnancy and I am sure you dont want to regret after.

good luck!

OmicronPersei8 · 20/06/2011 13:04

I know a few people who've had a baby at the RFH recently, with no complaints. I personally haven't been there though, but just have noted that I'd heard some nice things recently. I know they've worked really hard to improve things in the past few years.

SympatheticConsultant · 20/06/2011 13:31

Dear Bellabr & Livie26,
Unfortunately having babies can in a minority of cases be a hazardous process for both babies and expectant mums to be. If you add into the mix on-going National issues with NHS finances and staffing there will be poor outcomes for every NHS Maternity unit in the Uk. Admittedly in many regions experts are at odds to explain why significant outcome differences can and do occur between neighbouring units with seemingly similar patient populations. But it is an area that a number of NHS Trusts and PCT's are now actively researching!

Due to the nature of the speciality, staffing and clinical care in 'most' units on the labour ward (typically the most critical area)is often not very different and by and large reasonably good and safe (I would hope!). Postnatal aspect of NHS maternity services are always where most units have the most challenges.

We like other units are continually striving to improve our services, our 1:1 care in labour stats are amongst the highest in the sector.
If you are fortunate enough to have low-risk 'normal' pregnancies the majority of the care you receive will be with your CMW or GP. We try very much to keep such expectant mums out of the hospital and away from the specialist Obstetric clinics needed for high risk pregnancies. Convenience and location of your delivering unit is also another important factor, more so if you develop problems and then are needing regular review in either the clinics or the Day Assessment Units (where in some circumstances you could end up going 2-3 x week when the need arises!).
We do unfortunately also end up seeing a significant number of mother's who have delivered at other neighbouring units but who live close by, who then end up coming to us when they develop problems post-natally rather than go back to their original delivering unit.

We support your right to choose how and where you wish to deliver and to this end have a formal agreement with Doula UK for their members to provide additional support for our expectant mother's (& their clients) who deliver with us, but also for them to provide additional voluntary postnatal support for all mum's on the postnatal wards.

I would advise that you take a first hand look at the various units you are considering delivery at. If you have both booked at the Royal Free have you personally had a good, bad or indifferent personal experiences wrt to your midwives and the service so far? In the various forums you are also more likely to get mother's feeding back negative experiences rather than always positive ones, its just in the nature of such forums! We have many mums who deliver with us who regularly feedback their positive experiences via cards and gifts but do not necessarily go onto the forums to share their experiences!

I would suggest that you undertake tours of the various units you are considering for delivery as you may get an instinctive 'vibe' for where you feel the staff are most receptive and which feels 'right' for you.

If you are having any specific issues or concerns regarding your care at the RFree I am happy for you to contact me (contact details [email protected]).

Good luck on a happy and positive pregnancy and birth experience where ever you finally decide to delvier!

vicloumic · 21/06/2011 12:31

Hi Ladies,

Congrats to all of you... All x4 of my girls were born at the Royal Free and i have no complaints at all. I am also a birth Doula and can tell you that every single hospital will have a horror story or two from new parents, likewise each hospital will also have those who give it a thumbs up. From my work as a Doula i have been to most hospitals in london and can say that although R.F may not be the most spectacular to look at, the labour wards are clean with friendly staff and cerftainly is not the worst of them out there. I really wouldn't panic about having your baby there, but if you have any doubt go and have a look :0)
livvie26 If you are thinking of hiring a Doula and have any questions or would like some friendly advice please feel free to get in touch if you would like. [email protected] www.northlondondoulas.co.uk

Victoria.x

HandMini · 21/06/2011 20:08

I had my baby at UCLH a few weeks ago, and thought the care during birth and afterwards was VERY good. Doctors, anaesthetists and midwives working quickly and efficiently together, good midwife breastfeeding help etc. I don't know anything about the Royal Free, but agree with earlier posters who have said that you can dredge up horror stories about any hospital, and my view is that in London, it's totally luck of the draw what staff you end up with on the day. Good luck. xxx

kiteflying · 09/07/2011 02:45

I was booked for the Birth Centre at the Royal Free and the MWs there are lovely as are the rooms. This was 2007. In the end I went with Edgware Birthing Centre and really wished I hadn't. I would have been better off at RFH, but I was worried about being sent to the normal delivery ward - all the horror stories circulating at the time involved the normal delivery ward.

vivaldisgloria · 26/10/2011 21:51

Dear ladies, -(and sympathetic consultant!)
I just wanted to share my experience of RF where I had part of my pregnancy care last year. I had a high risk pregnancy with twins, born last may. Sympathetic consultant and his immediate team were quite simply- fantastic, taking the utmost care every step of the way. Rest of the care was a little patchy but ok ie: bp checks could be a little stressful with some rather impatient health assistants. But then there were lovely gems like Sandra who shone. And long waits for blood tests etc was sometimes wearisome, but not unbearable. The day assessment unit can be a bit hit and miss - depending on which midwife happens to be there.. I spent a couple of days in hospital as a precautionary measure which was fine medically which is ofCourse the main thing, but the overall ambience / feel isn't great. I was impressed by the response time to my initial self referral - in just a couple of weeks. Great outcome- two lovely boys - thanks to sympathetic consultant and team!

Fantasticmrsfoxy · 27/10/2011 20:37

Hello. I had dc2, born 3 weeks ago. at rfh and it was great. Midwife was superb (I dropped off thankyou card and Chocs earlier!). Started off on birty centre and transferred to labour ward. And I say this after having gone privately for DC1 at st Thomas'! Try to book into birth centre. Ask for midwife Mona to talk through any concerns - she's ex St johns and Lizzies and was fab. Had a 6 hr discharge but postnatal didn't look great. But think that's standard. Make sure you have postnatal breastfeeding numbers to go - don't expect much help from the Nhs on that front. Also I had a doula this time. Can highly recommend !

RefereezaWanka · 27/10/2011 21:52

In my experience, ithe people I know (amnd I know several) who have had straightforward and reasonably quick births at the RFH were fine and had no criticisms. However, the people I know who had long or in some way complicated deliveries (and again, I know a few) would rather have their arms cut off with a rusty saw than ever return there. I fall into the latter group. My experience was s0 hideous. I start shaking with anger just thinking about it, and one of my greatest regrets is that I didn't complain about it. I could tekl you the horrors but because I didn't complain at the time I am afraid it might be libellous. It was VERY bad, though. VERY BAD. i have since had a second child at UCH and I cannot tell you how different it was. Not perfect - it's a big, busy hospital - but the staff were, on the whole, wonderful and the whole experience was so, so different. I will never step foot in the RFH again.

RefereezaWanka · 27/10/2011 21:54

Oh, and the 'tour' at the RFH was a fairy story. Couldnt have been more different when I got there!

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