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Difference between uterine rupture and scar rupture

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Babieseverywhere · 13/03/2010 09:58

I have done a lot of reading and been given various papers to read about VBACs and ruptures.

I think I have this straight now but wondered if Mears and/or any other HCP might confirm I have this right.

Uterine Rupture

  • Very rare affecting around 1 in 300,000 pregnancies or maybe less as that was a figure from a less developed country.
  • Usually happens in third trimester often before labour, can happen during labour.
  • 2/3 happen in unscarred uterus (i.e. Not after a c-section)
  • 1/3 happen in old style high classic c-section pregnancy. This rupture type does not always happen at the site of the previous c-section.
  • Referred to as explosive or complete rupture.
  • Mother and or baby often show symptoms, often pain and distress. Maternal pulse erratic pulse can be picked up by a midwife 20 minutes before fetal distress can be picked up by continuous monitoring.
  • Majority of rupture deaths (mother and baby are associated to this type of rupture)
  • 20 year study showed 90 ruptures, 60 in unscarred uterus, 30 in classic c-section, resulting in 9 deaths all in former category.

Scar Rupture

  • More common affecting around 1 in 200 pregnancies
  • No fixed idea when this type occurs as it has no outward symptoms, the true numbers of these type of ruptures could be much higher than quoted.
  • Majority happen in scarred uterus (i.e. After c-section)
  • Referred to as silent or incomplete rupture
  • Mother and baby rarely show symptoms. Majority of these ruptures are noticed when an repeat c-section done for an unrelated reason. I am assuming this is why some studies show that continuous monitoring can only pick up as few as 50% of ruptures, that these ruptures might have less/no effect on the fetus, hence nothing to 'pick up' (my unproven theory only)
  • These ruptures seem to have little or no effect on labour or health of mother and baby.

During my reading I see that not some studies interchange or mix up both type of ruptures or don't specific which type they are looking at and their relevant risk levels.

If I have this right, I have a 0.5% chance of having a rupture that shouldn't endanger myself or the baby and a tiny tiny chance of the more dangerous rupture that every pregnant mother has a chance of and can't be predetermined.

Hence I will plan my home birth on that basis, assuming I don't develop a medical problem in the next few months

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MumNWLondon · 16/03/2010 12:55

I have given birth in hospital twice and both times had 1 to 1 care once in established labour - with doppler monitoring every 15 mins - and I haven't had a CS.

Yes they did leave me with DH on our own on arrival for a bit but both times we'd probably gone in a little too early - and we didn't want anyone in there.

You do seem fairly set on this homebirth and thats your choice - but when you have the meeting, perhaps discuss possibility of hospital birth without epidural or CFM.

re: evidence - on mumsnet you are probably only going to get anecdotal but I would have thought the doula's story on the other thread about witnessing a uterine rupture plus Riven's comments on a VBAC homebirth seem pretty persuasive.

As I have said before I have had 2 VBs and midwifes would be very supportive of a homebirth if I wanted one. But after seeing DD being born blue and resuciatated by crash team, not prepared to take the chance.

CarmenSanDiego · 16/03/2010 21:31

The thing is, there are a million horror stories of complications to both mother and baby caused by hospitals, but somehow that's ok because it's 'not our fault' where if we opt for a home birth which is statistically at least as safe, we're stupid fools if something goes wrong.

Something is much more likely to go wrong in a hospital.
And plenty of scar ruptures are caused in hospital by badly managed VBACs. And they can't always be fixed.

bigcar · 17/03/2010 12:58

babies, hope you got on ok today.

Babieseverywhere · 17/03/2010 16:17

Thanks Bigcar

Things went really well

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