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are NCT classes worth the money?

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bebejam · 03/06/2005 06:58

I live in an area of London where the charge for a two day course is 200 pounds (the longer course is past my dates, and is 400 pounds!)

We're not poor, just average folks, but we are on a very tight budget where 200 pounds is a lot of money. It just happens that the closest class to us is in SW1 which is why the high price I guess. We are trying to make wise decisions as the baby stuff bill seems to add up easily.

My husband is wondering if these will teach us anything that the hospital parent craft classes don't cover. A lot of people say that the reason you go is for the friends you make... but in two days I'm not sure you'd make that many bonds. And I certainly don't want to part with that kind of money just to hear someone spend two days talking about how scented candles work so much better than pain relief.

Any thoughts?

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bebejam · 13/06/2005 14:02

Wow, what a lively discussion. My internet has been down, and it looks like I've missed all the fun.

About the reduced rate places... in reality there really are not that many of them in existence. But more to the point, as I mentioned before, we're not poor or disadvantaged. We are just in the same boat as a lot of other first time parents who just about make ends meet- and now have to find money for a cot, a pram, a high chair, a mountain of nappies, ect. ect. It wouldn't be appropriate to ask for a handout, it just is a case of trying to make the best decisions with how to stretch what we have.

I completely appreciate what has been said about NCT being a charity and the teacher's needing to make a living. At the same time, we have to be realistic about where we spend our resources. We already give to charities, but in my mind that is a separate issue to paying a lot of money and investing time for a class that may or may not be useful.

It may all be a moot point now though as after a week and a half I can't seem to get anyone to return my phone calls or e-mails. I did find one class that might work for me, but it runs right up to the day before my due date! Maybe a bit tight? I was trying to call to see if it even made sense to send in my registration and money, but I am still waiting to hear back. As I am already almost at 18 weeks, I'd be surprised if there was room left for me by the time someone gets back to me.

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bebejam · 13/06/2005 14:19

I just have to add that the information and support and reassurance I have gotten from you ladies who take the time to answer the questions from us panicky first timers has been a huge comfort and help. (I'd say worth 200 at least ;-)

Thank you for all your sage advice and relating your experiences! You've no idea what it means to some of us...

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dizietsma · 17/06/2005 19:22

My NHS ante-natal classes are basically an advert for detatched birthing. You should've seen the video we got from our local hospital, the whole thing was one big plug for the benefits of pethidine and epidural with images of blissed out mothers on opiates and exhausted looking women talking about how great it was to get pain relief. I'm yet to go to the NCT class but it's gotta be better than the that.

highlander · 17/06/2005 19:45

numerous friends have been to ante-natal classes, and not one showed a video of a woman either tearing or having an episiotomy. Now, someone remind me of the stats again....... 80% of women tear isn't it?? Hmmmmm

Pruni · 17/06/2005 19:48

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morningpaper · 17/06/2005 20:00

dizietsma: I've never met a midwife who would prefer her 'charges' to be 'blissed out on opiates' (others may disagree). It's common to hear of women BEGGING for drugs but midwives procrastinating because it's much easier for them if women DON'T have epidurals and involve other staff. NHS maternity units have targets for keeping epidurals LOW.

However the image of exhausted mothers saying how great pain-relief is is not propaganda, as the briefest glance at Discovery Health will proove!

dizietsma · 18/06/2005 15:54

Hmm, well, the midwife running the class said "It's so lovely to see a lady who's been in absolute agony relax after getting an epidural, the change is wonderful." So maybe the midwives you've met aren't drug pushers but this one certainly was. As a first time mum the message I get from that is - "birth is horribly painful, you needn't suffer you poor dear." I actually find that an extremely patronising (matronising, whatever) attitude. Are you aware that being told over and over how terrible and painful an experience is going to be increases the likelyhood of it being terrible and painful? It's called a psychosomatic effect. I'm under no illusions that birth will be rainbows and butterfly's, but I resent being told over and over how I ought to experience it. After all, there are women out there who report orgasmic birth, aren't there? How many NHS ante-natal classes cover that possiblity?

As for the discovery channel, well, I don't trust the media representation of birthing. It's not good telly to show a peaceful normal birth so we mostly see women with "interesting conditions" or complications giving birth who are obviously much more likely to be drugged up.

Rochwen · 19/06/2005 13:37

I'm expecting my first at the beginning of August so I have no idea what childbirth will be like but none, I repeat none, of my friends who already have children reported it to be an 'orgasmic' experience. They all thought it was bloody awful. A lot of them said that they wished they had been better prepared for the amount of pain they had. Most of them felt out of control and in panic when the contractions finally kicked in. They said that they wished people had been more honest, esp the leaders in their classes NHS or NCT, breathing excercises and aromatherapy didn't work for any of my friends. They were all screaming for drugs and the ones that were most traumatised by their delivery were the ones that couldn't get the pain relief they wanted or didn't get it quick enough (either because they were too far on or noone was available to administer an epidural). As I've said this is just my circly of friends.

The though of not haveing ready access to whatever pain relief I want certainly worries me.

So, to sum up I think there are two sides to it all. It's not good to frighten the living daylights out of first time mums with all the horror stories going but rose-tinting the experience of childbirth by telling them they can (and should) simply 'breathe through the pain' is not helpful either, as creates false expectations and makes women feel like failures when they do ask for medication.

I, personally, think that women should have as much choice in birth as possible, if they want to give it a really good go with as little pain medication as possible then they should receive as much support as possible (e.g. a full-time midwife or doula) and, alternatively, if a woman walks into the delivery suite asking for an epidural she should bloody well get one there and then without having to wait.

Childbirth is not a competition and every woman is different in what she needs and wants. That should be respected.

Personally, in my NCT class, I feel that the idea of 'natural' childbirth with as little intervention as possible is pushed as little too hard. It is seen as the ultimate goal. I think it sets up unrealistic expections in women and if the birth then goes differently (which statistically there is a good chance for a first time birth) women feel like total failures or are dissappointed that they didn't get a 'good birth'. IMHO a healthy baby and a healthy mother are the ultimate goal of any delivery no matter how it is achieved.

climbing off the soapbox now

Phototash · 10/11/2009 15:10

Hi Bebejam,

I am wondering the same thing. I am due in June and today I am looking into NCT classes.
A friend of mine went and said she didn't learn much at all from these classes but found some great friends.
I live in the Chiswick area and I am wondering if some NCT teachers are better then others as I hear good reviews and bad. Does anyone live in the Chiswick area that could recommend a good NCT class. I would rather travel a little and get the best teacher?

Thanks

jentle · 09/03/2011 18:32

I actually went to the Chiswick one and the teacher Sarah bradley is very nice (and I met some great people too) - see if you can get her as I would recommend her

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