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swottybetty · 22/05/2009 19:45

if someone chose to have a ceasarian privatley for non-medical reasons, how much would it cost and where in london offers? and surrey kent also

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sleepyeyes · 22/05/2009 19:54

From my hazy memory 9K at the portland for C section as they charge you about 1k a night and the usual stay for a Csection is 4-5 nights.

At Middlesex hospital its about 6k, but less frills compared to Portland.

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blondissimo · 22/05/2009 19:55

All I know is that the Portland charge around £2500 for a normal birth, and then more if there are interventions, so a c section would probably be a few thousand? That info may be a little out of date though.

SympatheticConsultant · 24/05/2009 14:22

Portland's current 2009 charges are as follows for non-medical elective CS's:
£6255 for first 24hrs including CSection
Then £1295 per night!!
(+ £750 for the epidural)

Minimum required stay is probably 2-3 nights after a straight forward CS
Its not cheap!!!

bellasmama · 24/05/2009 14:28

For the Portland you also have to factor in your consultants fees which apparantly do vary, mine charged £2000 for the operation, plus around £2000 for ante natal, plus scans blood etc. They also like you stay in for 4-5 nights and there are also paed fees. It is not cheap but if you can afford it its worth every penny. Also it might have gone up now but when I had my DS there it was £850 per extra night

Lulumama · 24/05/2009 14:28

what do you get for £1295 a night?

am genuinely interested
, not being arsey

merryberry · 24/05/2009 14:48

well, you get the C2 bus with me on it passing by at regular intervals!

bellasmama · 24/05/2009 16:20

Ok here goes, I know you are not being arsey Lulu but I hope this does not set off other posters going on the defensive about the NHS, I am just going to give you my experiences.
A lovely clean private room with en suite, lovely room service and my DH could stay.
One to one midwife care from a very experienced midwife with time for you to answer any questions, fabulous breastfeeding support, my midwife more or less spent the whole day with mw when I had a few hiccups with breastfeeding.
Consultant care was wonderful, she came to see me every day and did a lovely CS.
Pain relief on tap.
Being kept lovely and clean until I was mobile 24 hours after the CS in a lovely clean room.
Full 24 hour nursery if wanted
Physios to help with post natal recovery.
Brilliant nursery nurses to help show you do all the baby stuff bathing etc
Although I chose to breastfeed there was no pressure whatsoever to do so if you did not want to, underneath the cot there was a little cupboard with nappies, toiletries plus little bottles of formula and disposable teats if you wanted them.
Above all the feeling of being properly cared for and cossetted and being allowed to recover from the birth properly so you are ready to enjoy your baby.
Lovely Champagne!
Although it may seem superficial to some I feel the care I had really set me up for motherhood, the sad thing is a lot of our own mums probably had similar care in the NHS when we were born and its what every woman deserves.

BigBellasBeerBelly · 24/05/2009 16:33

Mmmmmm sounds lovely....

Meglet · 24/05/2009 16:41

Cosseted and champagne after the birth .

bellasmama my mum was saying the other day that the care was better when she had me and my sister in the 70's. She bf us but appreciated the midwives being willing to take us off her hands when she needed to rest.

SalLikesCoffee · 24/05/2009 17:00

I went to Portland, stayed 4 nights. Care was really good and as a first time mom with no family (except for dh and day-old ds!) around, it was brilliant that the nursery nurses were around all the time if needed to show anything needed, whether advice re bf, bathing, sleeping, anything.

Obviously not why I chose them, but the food was excellent. After months of heartburn, I finished off a 3 course lunch 3 hours after my cs!! (I do think everyone was a little surprised about this and dh for having to fight me for a bread roll... )

SalLikesCoffee · 24/05/2009 17:03

My funniest moment though was when the nurse called the kitchen, asking them to bring me cabbage (my breasts were engorged and painful). She asked them to just cut a savoy cabbage in half and bring it over. It arrived on a silver platter. Hahahaha, I still laugh at the thought of that!

picklesmama · 24/05/2009 20:18

If you're in Surrey I know that you can get a good deal Kingston Coombe Wing (quite a lot less than the central London prices). Kingston has a very good reputation.
Though I'm a C&W Kensington fan myself...

spicemonster · 24/05/2009 20:22

St Johns & Elizabeths is similar price I think - their price list is on the website. My friend had her first baby there but decided it wasn't worth the expense and had the second at UCL. You can get C sections on the NHS if you really, really don't want to give birth vaginally you know.

Lulumama · 25/05/2009 08:36

that does sound like excellent care..especially a day of breastfeeding support..thanks very much.

i did snort a little at Sal's cabbage on a silver platter.

bellasmama · 25/05/2009 10:55

Lulu, the breastfeeding support was one of the best things, there are an awful lot of misconceptions about women who birth at the Portland, we are are not all too posh to push dump the baby with the nanny types. All the mums in my ante natal class and post natal group had natural birth, I had to have a CS due to my DS being breech and we all successfully breastfed. I forgot to put in my OP as well is that all mums have group B strep tests, I was positive and there is no way I would have known I was a carrier

SalLikesCoffee · 25/05/2009 11:42

With ds having had a lot of fluid in his lungs and him being a little weak, I had the paed pop in every 15 minutes for the first 3 hours with a nurse around all the time (well, outside the door). Had she not been able to do that, he would have had to go to intensive care (was borderline) - we weren't allowed to pick him up etc, not even for weighing by nurses. Obviously you couldn't expect that on NHS (nor would I - the baby would obviously have been perfectly safe to just have gone to ICU from the start), but for me, it meant a lot having my family with me, I would have been devastated if I was confined to my bed with dh and son away whilst I didn't know if he was dying or whatever.

I'm not saying that Portland medical care better - not at all - but I do think that the extra money means more staff is available. Would I have gone to Portland if it wasn't medically necessary for cs and therefore most costs covered by medical insurance? Probably not. But, having gone, do I think it is worth it if you have the money available / it is covered? Most definitely, especially with a first baby.

Orangesarenottheonlyfruit · 25/05/2009 11:49

I have to say, after my awful NHS c-section, (total cock-up NHS entirely at fault, still have scar pain etc). Bellas and Sals private experiences sound lovely!

anjlix · 25/05/2009 12:48

swottybetty Here is my 2 pence on private care at St Thomas's. Although I do think Portland would have been better. But they do not have emergency care for the mother so you have to be wheeled to the nearest NHS hospital in case anything goes wrong. I found that too risky for my twin pregnancy. Thats why I chose to go private at St Thomas'. Must say that the service was less than stellar. I had to beg the night nurse to take my 4lbs prem babies to the nursery for 5 hours so I could get some sleep and not have to feed them in the middle of the night. No breast feeding support at all when I was there. But I did manage to do it with the help of my family for 1 month. The service was very basic despite going private. Yes I had a clean ensuite room etc, food was decent but service and attitude highly depended on who was on duty on a given day. For e.g. If I asked for food betweem meal times, some would give me a funny look. I was Bfing my babies. We all know the hunger pangs set in at 2a. I was too zonked out post my c-section to hoard snacks. But I must point out that some midwives were really fantastic. I wish they were there through out my 5 day stay. I shudder to think what the service would have been on NHS care. But that's just my experience does not have to be yours.

Here is the breakdown of cost.

£3000 to book a room in Lansdell. This includes one night stay. Each additional night is £650. They normally discharge c-section monthers anywhere from 3-5 days if all was normal. This is the only fee you have to pay now and additional nights are pain upon discharge. Every thing else is paid after you are home with the babies.

£3500 for the preferred consultant. The two senior most docs Con Kelleher and Lawrence Mascarenhas are excellent and have loads of experience with twins including vaginal births.

£400 for the anesthesiologist if you need spinal/epidural

£400 for the paediatrician who checks your babies right after birth. If the babies need to go to NICU or SCBU then NHS care kicks in. I think NHS is brilliant for that.

Also if the mother needs emergency care after birth then also NHS coverage kicks in. For example I know some one who needed a pulmonary surgeon because of ruptured blood vessels and was in ICU for 4 days. All this was covered under NHS.

I had my scans done privately at the Fetal Medicine Center (www.fetalmedicine.com). They charge £200 per scan. I was monitored every 2 weeks from 24 weeks for TTTS. Prof Kypros Nicolaides hopefully be able to guide you on the frequency of scans.

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