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Decided not to have IV a/biotics in labour despite having GBS - Questions!

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jen992 · 12/01/2009 15:13

Hi,

After finding out i am carrying GBS (test performed following a water infection). I have been TOLD by my midwife I can no longer have the home birth I wanted (this is my 2nd child - 1st was born at home).
I know I can 'ignore' her and still have the homebirth, however I have decided to play safe and go into hospital BUT i have decided not to receive the IV antibiotics they offer due to many reasons.
Does anyone know how long I would have to stay in hospital following the birth to be monitored? I want to be out ASAP ideally but realise it's important for the baby to be monitored.
I have also decided to carry out another GBS test myself and send it off to a private lab just to confirm the result as the midwife said they wouldn't re-test me and GBS isn't something that comes and goes... despite me knowing through reading various articles it CAN 'come and go'.

Anyway, just wondered if anyone knew how long i'd have to stay in hospital?
I'm now almost 35 weeks BTW (and to add insult to injury, baby is breech!)
x

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BusyBeeWithThree · 12/01/2009 15:21

Hi, I am GBS carrier and have 3dc. If you do not have the antibiotics I believe they will insist on giving the antibiotics directly to new baby via a drip. I found out I was GBS during delivery of ds1 and refused for him to have antibiotics and stayed in hospital for three days for observation.

I then researched into the whole thing and realised I did a very dangerous thing which worked out fine for me but could have been very different.

I had the antibiotics during labour for ds2 and dd just because I could never have forgiven myself if something happened to them. It is a personal decision to make so good luck.

Just so you know I am fairly anti drugs etc and choose homoeopathy over conventional medicine day to day. I did seek homoeopathic treatment for myself and baby to antidote all the antibiotics which we were given as they caused terrible thrush in all of us.

Blu · 12/01/2009 15:24

jen - I found all the info about GBS quite confusing, tbh, but was found to have it when DS was born. They tested because there was such a long gap between my waters breaking and the birth, and this apparanly increased the risk a lot. They tested late in labour, and the swab came back positive after DS was born. Because of the long time since my waters had beoken, and i hadn't been on a-bs, they were very insistent that DS should go on iv abs.
This was very very distressing. I wasn't sure whether I had been pushed into it unecessarily, and spoke to my GP afterwards - who said she had seem babies 'go, like that' (fizzle out gesture) after contracting strep B, and was adamant that having had a long laboutr after the waters went, it was not worth the risk.

This made me quite mad, as had I realised that, I would have requested accelaration / intervention - I was the original pool-based home-birth mother, but i would have given all that up for a speeded up labour and no IV abs for DS - OR I would have gone on abs myself.

Also - I understood that GBS does indeed come and go.

Can you ask for a consultants appointment and discuss all the protocols around GBS in your area?

Blu · 12/01/2009 15:28

yes, like BusyBee, had I known then what i found out afterwards, i would have been tested in advance, and then taken the abs myslf. I would not risk the baby - and having DS on IV abs was really horrible and we had to stay in hospital for 5 days because of it.

jen992 · 12/01/2009 15:36

Oh I'm so confused! I read on thing and decide something then i read something else and change my mind. Now having read your posts i'm confused again.
I had asthma as a child and don't want to increase the risk of this baby having it (as a/biotics in young babies can increase the chance) BUT if they could save his life (potentially) I should accpet them.
If i accept the a/biotics myself will that mean the baby won't need any a/biotics following the birth (obviously as he receives them thru me)??

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Blu · 12/01/2009 15:58

As I understood it, if YOU have anti-biotics, that will stop the risk of passing GBS on to your baby, and your baby will not need them.

Not sure if giving you abs kills the StrepB before the baby is born, or whether the abs go from you to the baby.

Apart from anything else, it is unpleasant seeing them put a canula in your newborn. DS screamed every time they put the abs in, twice a day.

Also - ask whether the time delay between waters leaking and birth is a factor.

izzybiz · 12/01/2009 16:05

I chose not to have the antibiotics with my recent birth as my consultant told me there is lots of new evidence and statistics that show its not as necessary as its made out with all the scare stories, and I wanted a water birth. As it turned out labour was too quick anyway!

That also factored for me as I had the abs with Dd and she was born in 2 1/2 hours so they would of had no time to work anyway, they need to be given at least 4 hours before delivery.

I had to stay in for 24 hours after delivery so Ds could be observed, they checked him every 6-8 hours.

izzybiz · 12/01/2009 16:06

Also I notice you say baby is breech, will you not be having a c-section because of this?

If you do you will have IV abs anyway, and the risk is further reduced as baby doesn't come through vaginally.

francagoestohollywood · 12/01/2009 16:10

It is a tough one. The info about gbs is very unclear. I had ds in Italy where every pg woman is tested at around 37 weeks. They take it very seriously. When pg with dd in the UK I wasn't offered to be tested.

Dd took very ill when she was 5 days old and the first thing the doctors suspected when we took her to hospital was a strep b infection... Luckily it wasn't strep b, but it was really scary.

I'd probably suggest to take the antibiotics, but I'm still shocked after that experience!

jen992 · 12/01/2009 16:11

Thanks izzybiz... Re: the breech issue... going to see midwife next monday to see if he's still breech, if she thinks he is i will be havig a scan to check position and have him turned (ECV)... i guess if that doesn't work it'll mean having a cs.

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fleacircus · 12/01/2009 16:12

I did a private test last time which came up positive, so did have the ABs during labour. But, only one dose, not the recommended two, because I was further than we'd realised by the time we got to hospital and it was quite a quick labour.

DD was fine, didn't have to have any ABs - risk was low anyway as my waters only broke at the beginning of the second stage.

I found having the canala (sp?) in my hand throughout the labour really irritating, and having done the test meant we couldn't go to the birth centre as planned but had to have a hospital birth. We had decided not to do the test next time, but now I'm actually pregnant I think we will; just because now it's a reality I've reverted to my better safe than sorry mentality. And maybe this time I'll be negative!

Don't know if that helps, just my experience. I'd definitely retake the test if I were you, it's recommended at 35-37 weeks and GBS does definitely come and go.

BusyBeeWithThree · 12/01/2009 16:14

If you have the antibiotics 4 hours before delivery then the baby does not need them as well. It is definitely best for you to have them than tiny baby. If you decide not to have the antibiotics how would you feel if something did happen? Personally I could not live with that. A slightly increased risk of asthma I could live with. It is such a difficult decision, I hated it.

Just to reassure you my dd was breech until birth and turned at the last minute, so fingers crossed!

bubblebell1 · 12/01/2009 16:15

Jen i dont mean to alarm you... my sister (half sister) died as a result of not being given anti bs. my step mother wasnt aware she was a carrier of gbs and went into labour. 4 days later my lil sis died from complications caused by gbs. she would of been 4 nov just gone.

recently a friend of mine gave birth and she tested pos for gbs but wasnt in hosp for long... 2 days 1 night to make sure the baby was fine.

if i were you i would have the anti bs but only because i have close hand experience of how bad things can get

hth

reikizen · 12/01/2009 16:22

In our Trust the baby has obs (heart rate, respiration rate and temp) every 4 hours for 48 hours. Most women labour too quickly to have full antibiotic cover so stay in for that period even if having abx. Basically you are checking for signs of an unwell baby, in particular signs of infection. It is completely your choice to have antibiotics, but it is obviously sensible to observe the baby either way. On a personal note, I wouldn't have the bloody things...

belgo · 12/01/2009 16:23

Why exactly don't you want to have the antibiotics during labour? I had them, vian an IV drip, and it didn't bother me at all. The only problem was the bag of IV fluids made me need the toilet, and also I developed thrush a day or so after giving birth - this was easily treated.

I also was lucky enough to find independent midwives who could administer the antibiotics to me at home, so I still had a home water birth. But I don't think that's possible in the UK?

Given the risks of GBS, I would have the antibiotics even if it meant not being allowed a home birth. I would never forgive myself if there was a problem with the baby because I had refused the recommended treatment.

Also, even if you do have the antibiotics, there is a very small chance that the baby could still develop GBS so the baby will have to be monitored after birth (temperature checked).

MarmadukeScarlet · 12/01/2009 16:23

Having been refused ABs until 6 mins before DS was born (we generally let them be born and see, the risks are low you know) but then having to be parted from him whilst he was severely ill in NICU having gentomiacin and 1 other AB pumped into the canula on the back of his tiny hand every few hours. The canula btw which has to be changed every few days, which is horribly distressing.

Also being on oxygen as he had breathing problems/ttn (often a symptom of Strep B) he also had a ng tube and was seiously ill.

But the heart breaker for me was having to sign a consent form for a lumbar puncture when he was 36 hours old, oh that and the consultant telling us to prepare ourselves for the worst.

He did have severe breathing problems/asthma when he was tiny, but the paeds have since said it was due to the extensive recussitation and cpap machines, and he is now less prone to problems age 4.

But at the end of the day it is your choice.

francagoestohollywood · 12/01/2009 16:28

Dd had a lumbar puncture too Marmaduke. It was awful.

LJ29 · 12/01/2009 16:29

Jen, I tested positive for GBS and did some research before my second birth. As I remember it (and I'm no expert) there is an increased risk of both still birth and meningitis. My hospital wanted me to stay in for 48 hours to check baby was ok and I have the IV abs.

Purely a personal opinion but I have always felt that baby's health and safety must always come 1st 2nd and 3rd. However much I wanted to have a labour without a drip or to go home quickly, my child would always be my priority. I would much rather have one drip myself than put such a small baby through the trauma of having to have it themselves or any other treatment because they became ill.

abdnhiker · 12/01/2009 16:30

DS2 was observed every 2 hours for the first 12 and then every 4 until his swab test for GBS came back negative. I didn't get the antibiotics during birth in time (fast second labour) but they didn't want to give ABs directly to DS2 - just watch him! So that's a pain to have to stay in hospital but not the end of the world (and no medication!)

Bunkups33 · 12/01/2009 20:07

My DD developed GBS hours after birth (I was never tested so it may not have come from me). She was very ill and had to have a lumbar puncture on day 3 as they thought she had meningitis. She is fine now thanks to very speedy diagnosis and treatment but it was a rough first few days.

I am in US about to have no. 3 and despite actually testing negative myself I will have the anti bs during labour. I too agonised about the cons of (possibly unnecessary) treatment with anti biotics but just couldn't see any way other than the cautious one.

I agree that evidence is confusing and making a decision is difficult and it is one of those subjects which the more you read about it the LESS clear the options become! Good luck with making a decision.

tittybangbang · 12/01/2009 20:49

An interesting article that puts the risks of GBS for full term babies in perspective.
AIMS Journal, Winter 2003, Vol 15 No 4

Sara Wickham

Midwife Sara Wickham provides the background and explores the options open to women diagnosed with bacterial diseases that pose potential risks for their babies.

Group B streptococci (GBS) are bacteria that live inside (or colonise) the gastrointestinal tract, bladder and/ or throat of many people, including pregnant and labouring women. The estimated prevalence of colonisation is 5-80 per cent of the population (which shows, if nothing else, the varying usefulness of such numbers).

GBS is generally benign in adults, only posing a danger to those with compromised immunity, and also in most babies who pick up these bacteria during birth. But it can occasionally cause serious harm to others. Because of this, pregnant women may be offered screening and intervention-yet another pond of uncertainty to swim in, beset as it is with complex numbers, difficult decisions and tiny chances of developing very serious conditions.

For several years, most areas in the UK have taken a 'riskbased' approach to GBS screening, where practitioners attempt to identify the babies who are at increased risk of becoming infected with GBS. Risk factors (which vary between hospitals) include premature labour (before 37 weeks of pregnancy), a woman with a high temperature during labour or a woman whose waters have been broken for 18-24 hours[1].

Where such a risk factor is identified, the woman will be offered intravenous antibiotics during labour. In these situations, swabs may be taken to see if the woman has GBS (or other bacteria), but it takes a while to perform the testing, so the results are usually only available after the birth.

As a consequence, the woman has to make a decision based on the possibility that, if she does have GBS, her baby might be more at risk of becoming infected, rather than knowing (from screening tests) that she definitely has GBS.

By contrast, pregnant women in the US are offered routine screening for GBS at the end of pregnancy[2], and are offered intravenous antibiotics in labour if they are found to have GBS in their vagina or rectum. Some UK practitioners have mooted the idea of replacing the current risk-based approach with the approach used in America, termed 'culture-based screening'[3]. With culture-based screening, women who have risk factors, but not GBS, may escape being given unnecessary antibiotics (although some practitioners may recommend them anyway, in case other pathogens are present). However, hospitals will offer antibiotics to all of the 10-30 per cent of women who have a vagina and/or rectum colonised with GBS[4], even though only a tiny proportion of these babies will be affected with GBS disease[5,6].

GBS disease comes in two forms: early onset and late onset.

Early-onset GBS disease occurs within the first week of life; three-quarters of the babies who develop GBS disease will do so at this time. Problems usually become apparent within a few hours of birth, and can include generalised infection (sepsis), pneumonia or meningitis.

GBS disease is termed 'late onset' when it occurs between a week and a few months of age. Not all cases of late-onset GBS are due to the baby's mother transmitting GBS during birth; some will occur from other (but usually unknown) sources. The impact of late-onset disease is usually less severe.

Babies found to have GBS disease are treated with antibiotics and given whatever other support they need in hospital special care units.

There are large discrepancies among the findings of different research studies as far as the outcomes of babies who contract GBS are concerned. It is probably fair to say that, currently, researchers are more concerned with how to prevent GBS disease than what the prognosis is for the infants who do contract the disease. In 2002, researchers[7] published an analysis of two years' worth of data from births in the North of England looking at a number of aspects of GBS. They found that:

  • The prevalence of early-onset GBS sepsis was 0.57 per 1000 live births. Put another way, one in every 1754 women had a baby with GBS disease.
  • Premature babies accounted for 38 per cent of all cases of GBS disease, and 83 per cent of all deaths from GBS disease during the time of the study.
  • Of the 39 (out of 62,786) babies who developed GBS disease, three were stillborn and six died soon after birth. Five of the six babies who died were born prematurely (before 36 weeks of pregnancy).
  • Four of the mothers of the babies who contracted GBS disease had been given antibiotics in labour.

We can then say that, in this study, around one in four babies who were known to have GBS died as a result. In reality, the mortality (death) rate from GBS may be lower than this, as some babies may have had GBS disease and recovered without it having been diagnosed. Indeed, the US Centers for Disease Control quote a mortality rate during the 1990s of 4 per cent[3]. It is difficult to know which of these figures is the more accurate; the real figure may be somewhere between the two and, as with many things, will be partly dependent on local expertise and available technology.

Another interesting finding of the GBS study in the North of England was that, had they used riskbased screening, they would have identified 78 per cent of the babies who developed GBS disease. (But that means they would still have missed 22 per cent, which is one reason that some people are calling for culture-based screening). However, it was calculated that the administration of antibiotics according to the results of risk-based screening would have meant that 16 per cent of all women in labour were taking antibiotics - 16 per cent of 62,786 equates to 10,046 women - in an attempt to prevent the deaths of nine babies. (And let's not forget that four of the mothers of the babies who had GBS disease had taken antibiotics).

In other words, 1116 of the women who have risk factors in this study would have needed to take antibiotics in labour to prevent one baby dying from GBS - but nevertheless without a solid guarantee that this hypothetical baby would be saved.

As already mentioned, culture-based screening would identify the 10-30 per cent of pregnant women whose vagina and/or rectum was colonised with GBS[4]. The screening test involves taking swabs from the inner walls of a woman's vagina and rectum - not a particularly pleasant procedure, but not as invasive as some. Yet, only one or two in every thousand of the women who have a positive result if we screen this way will have a baby who ends up with GBS disease[5,6]. Even when we take the most conservative estimate (assuming two women in a thousand with GBS have a baby with GBS disease, and using a mortality rate of 25 per cent), this would mean that 2000 women who tested positive for GBS would need antibiotics in labour to prevent the death of one infant.

There are a number of other factors that women may want to take into account here. According to the CDC[3], your baby is at highest risk of contracting GBS disease if you test positive and also have any of the following conditions:

  • previous baby with GBS disease
  • urinary tract infection due to GBS
  • fever during labour
  • rupture of membranes 18 hours or more before delivery
  • labour or rupture of membranes before 37 weeks.

It may be that, while policymakers are debating which of the two approaches to use, women might be better served by research looking at the outcomes where the two are combined. Even this means that many more women would have antibiotics than needed them, but at least this would be slightly more specific for the women who might be at risk and who would prefer to take antibiotics.

Perhaps we could also see whether there are other factors that could help us be even more specific about who is at risk. While this might not be deemed cost- effective on a population basis, it may be more helpful for the women who wish to avoid unnecessary intervention.

There are, inevitably, a number of reasons why women may not want antibiotics in labour unless they are truly necessary. Apart from the possible side-effects, and the discomfort of having movement hindered by an intravenous cannula in labour, there are more serious ramifications of policies advocating mass antibiotic cover. While penicillin8 and ampicillin[9] are currently effective for treating GBS disease in babies, ever since antibiotics have been used to treat large numbers of women whose babies were deemed at risk of GBS disease (whether on a risk-based or culture-based policy), the rate of Escherichia coli infections in premature babies has more than doubled. Around 85 per cent of the E. coli infections in one study were resistant to the drugs prescribed to treat GBS[10].

There is a huge debate over antibiotic-resistant bacteria in general, and these policies involve giving antibiotics to a lot of women, which may have ramifications for the population as a whole. It has also been suggested that giving antibiotics while babies are still in their mother's uterus might delay the baby's gut being colonised with normal, "good" bacteria while allowing dangerous penicillin-resistant bacteria to become established there instead[11].

There is also a need to find out whether giving antibiotics actually makes a significant difference to the outcome. The assumption that this is the case has long been just that¡ªan assumption. Cochrane reviewers[12] who looked at the trials comparing women who had been given antibiotics with women who had not received antibiotics found that, although antibiotics reduced the incidence of GBS infection in babies, there was no significant difference in the numbers of babies who died. They found the few trials that had looked at this area to be of poor quality, and called for further research - something which surely needs to be done before even more women receive unnecessary drugs in labour.

Having said that, there is plenty of research to support the fact that midwifery and medical interventions in labour, such as vaginal examination, can increase rates of infection[13, 14, 15, 16, 17] yet there is no evidence to suggest that hospitals are making attempts to limit these interventions. Added to the suggestion from an American review of laboratory procedures[18] that these may not always be effective at detecting GBS in cultures, the decision can become fraught for some women.

Women looking for information about GBS on the Internet are likely to come across some of the most emotive websites in existence. Some are named for babies who died from GBS disease or who continue to suffer from the effects. While I have enormous sympathy for these families, this is only one side of the picture. The other, I hope, can be seen by looking at some of the numbers in this article. The promotion of GBS screening is likely to increase over the next few years, yet the available data show that there is no simple answer to this issue - and no way of screening for GBS in babies that doesn't lead to thousands of women having antibiotics they most likely don't need.

It is appealing to want to reduce the rate of GBS infection; it is the most common cause of infectious disease in babies, and it can be fatal. Yet, as with the cases of rhesus disease and haemorrhagic disease, we are often using sledgehammers to crack nuts, potentially at the expense of our future health. Antibiotics have been a marvellous and lifesaving discovery. When used appropriately, they are truly useful to humanity.

Nevertheless, we are already suffering some of the consequences of our overuse of antibiotics, which is surely something we need to temper. GBS is increasingly seen as a publichealth issue. However, any position taken on GBS (as well as many other birth interventions) really depends on two things: it depends on whether you are happy to be gathered together with all of the other Ms General Publics and told what is best for your health (and that of your children); or whether you want to make the choices that suit you as an individual. And, perhaps even more important, it depends on how you define health, on whether you are happy to accept the potential costs of medical technology, and how comfortable you are with the very unfashionable idea that nothing in life is certain.
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smallorange · 12/01/2009 20:58

Um...
my DD1 got a GBS infection (did not know I was a carrier) and was on IV antibiotics for two weeks.
As others have said, if they even suspect your baby has a GBS infection they will give them 12-hourly antibiotics. The canula hurts them, pushing the medication through their tiny veins hurts them and the daily heel-prick tests hurt them. What hurt DD1 the most though was having meningitis. And thank God she is fine.

I still have flashbacks to he time she was in special care, trying to BF her, she in so much pain.
I know you think it won't happen to you - and it probably won't - but you would be stupid not to have antibiotics. I would hate to have to watch my newborn for signs of a serious illness. If you have the antibiotics you won't have to worry about it. Good luck

jen992 · 14/01/2009 15:03

Thanks everyone for your responses. I have decided to accept the antibiotics now to be 'on the safe side'.
I just hope the baby and I can leave hospital within 24 hours as hospitals terrify me.

Thanks again.

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LJ29 · 14/01/2009 17:45

Jen FWIW I think you have made the right decision. If you want to leave hospital quickly perhaps it is worth swatting up on any symptoms you would be looking for in baby in case anything went wrong and if you're fairly knowledgable it might help to persuade the hospital that you know what you're doing. I think there is a GBS society that you could google for more info. Best of luck.

mrsgboring · 14/01/2009 18:12

Jen, I agree, I think it's the right decision. Just wanted to say, in case no-one has told you this elsewhere that the dose of IV abs only takes about 5-10 mins to go in. So although you will be stuck with a canula in throughout labour, you will only spend a few mins hooked up to the drip stand so it isn't too bad. If you can get them to put the canula in your arm rather than your hand it is more comfortable for moving around in labour etc.

sarahandlily · 06/03/2010 20:52

i didnt know until after my DD was born that I had strep B. she needed to be resusciatated when she was born by emergency C section after hers and my heart rate went bonkers in labour. she stopped feeding and had to be in special care for two weeks, had three lumbar puctures, thought she had caught meningitis (which our infections can cause to newborns) which can lead to brain damage and ended up with a canula in her head with drugs being put through twice a day and being fed with a tube in her nose. we are still under hospital care 4 months down the line and have to go back again in 2 months. Take the anti biotics. NOBODY should have to go through what we went through..have a look at some strep B pages on the iternet. its VERY serous stuff and we are very, very lucky to have our daughter with us.

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