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Crash C section

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barnpot · 14/10/2008 21:55

Hi my name is Jess, I live in west yorkshire, I'm an intensive care nurse, married with my now 6 week old boy Elliot.
I just wanted to share my birth story as well as the first 3 weeks o my son's life, more for my sanity to put these events down in writing, then maybe I'd be able to put them behind me and enjoy my little boy.
Please don't think I'm a bad person/mother for some of the feelings I expess, I am dearly in love with Elliot and have now bonded with him.

Elliot was due on the 19th sept 2008, my pregnancy was going well, however I had developed high blood pressure, but had no protein in my urine, therefore the midwives were not concerned. on the 2nd sept 2008 i arrived for my morning midwife appointment, and was told everything was ok with my pregnancy. At around 8pm that night, i started with mild period type pain, as elliot was in the breach position i decided to phone the labour ward for advice. The advice came to take some paracetamol and phone back in half an hour if the pain had not subsided. Half an hour later the pain had worsened, and was now constant with no contractions, i was half expecting my waters to break or to see a show but nothing happened. I phoned the labour ward back and told them this, i was advised to go in to the ward to be checked over. I gathered everything i needed (hospital bag etc) and headed in to the hospital, secretly feeling that this time tomorrow i could be returning home with my new baby. On labour ward i was scanned to confirm the my baby was still breach, and applied fetal heart monitors to check my baby's heart rate, this turned out to be around 80 bpm, the midwife left me saying she was going to find someone, by this time my mum had arrived. A few second later around 6 people rushed into my room, saying is this the bradycardia? in uder 3 seconds i was stripped naked and placed in to a theatre gown, one doctor placed a cannula in my hand, whilst someone else explained that i needed to go to theatre to get my baby out. i instatnly paniced as i didn't want to be put to sleep (THIS WAS DEFINATLY NOT IN MY BIRTH PLAN?) i wasn't given that choice. Very promptly i was wheeled from my room towards the theatre, on the way i told my husband and mum very tearfully i loved them both, thinking to myself that i would never see them again.
In theatre my thoughts moved to my baby, and how i couldn't feel him moving. As i lay on the operating table with an oxygen mask on my face, in the background noise i heard someone say SET UP FOR A CRASH, i tried to distance my self from the situation saying to myself that i'm on a beach, over & over &over, until i felt a warm sensation in my arm.
The next thing i remember was being asked to wake up by a midwife. I was in extreme pain but couldn't remember why! In the dark recovery room a photo was thrust in front of me by the midwife, and was told that this is your son, unable to focus, i didn't know what i was looking at, when i asked if he was ok i wasn't expecting the reply that i got, that they weren't sure yet??? I couldnt accept this answer and kept asking the question over & over but getting the same reply everytime.
My husband was allowed to come and see me, i asked him if he'd seen our son yet, he said that he wouldn't see him without me, however my parents & inlaws had been down to see elliot and said that he looked so beautiful. A few hours later i was wheeled to see elliot for the first time, although i knew he was very poorly, he looked so healthy, he was wired up to drips, had an ET tube and was connected to a ventilator. He looked so small that i didn't think he could be mine, he was looking around and was trying to pull out his ET tube, which he eventually did this and was able to breathe on his own.
My mum stayed with me on the post natal ward and throughout the night, she would goto scbu/nicu to hand over my breast milk. Around 6am the next morning, we went to see elliot, the nurse looking after him, said that he had been well behaved over night, no less than 5 mins later he rolled his eyes backwards went very red and extended his arms and legs, he'd also stopped breathing and dropped his satration levels to 50%. The nurses started bagging him, i managed to stagger out of the room, with my mum, and remember thinking that he was going to die right in front of my eyes. This was the beginning of his day of fitting. Even though he was given anti convulsing drugs, none of them worked, and he was eventually sedated.
After 24 hours the sedation was turned off and the anti convulsing rugs were re-started.
But we were all petrified that he would start fitting again, during this time, i kept telling myself that i can't get too attached to him, therefore we had to take each day minute by minute, hour by hour, preparing for him to fit again and watching out for the signs that would indicate the fits, however he was so good, that 48 hrs later the anti convulsive drugs were halved, and elliot was moved out of NICU.
He remained very sleepy, i remember saying that 'he's never cried'. The next day he continued to improve and was taken out of his incubator and placed into his own cot, my husband and i were even allowed to do his cares and even have the occassional cuddle,
he became more alert and awake, and started making some normal baby noises.
The docotrs told us to prepare ourselves, for being transferred to another hospital for an MRI scan to be completed on elliot, as his fitting may have damaged his brain, i really didn't want this doing, neither did i want to know the results, however at the beginning of the week, elliot was transfered to the other hospital for the scan. On arrival we found that the majority of the staff, were unhelpful and not interested in providing the level of care which we had been receiving up to present, neither were they concerned with keeping ourselves informed with progress and how things ran on the unit, even down to showing human compassion when they knew that we were away from our home and more importantly our support network (BOTH MUM & DAD'S).
The three days spent there were like HELL, however the MRI scan was completed, following this the remaining dose of elliot's anti-convulsing drug was stopped. Thanks to one very dedicated sister on the unit, we were able to return to our own hospital, very quickly following the scan.
Over the next few days, elliot started to become more and more alert, and had no further fits. The consultant said that he was happy with elliot's progress, and had received a basic report on the scan, which turned out to be generally good news, and was a relief for both myself and hubby.
The nurses asked if we would like to have elliot in his cot, but with us in the flat over night, we both jumped at the chance and continued to have him throughout the weekend. Monday brought a statement from the consultant, that we had longed to hear, we could take elliot home.
The reason I was told Elliot was bradycardic, was due to placena abruption. I was later told that Elliot had arrived within 7 minutes of me being put to sleep. he wasn't breathing and had no significant cardiac effort. he was ressusitated for 2-3 minutes before his heart restarted.
The fitting was probably metabolic as his blood sugar levels were very low, his sodium and potassium levels were deranged.
when he arrived he had suffered a degree of hypoxia as his blood pH level was 6.8. (metabolic acidosis)
In some ways I wish I hadn't had the medical knowledge as this made being a mum hard, as I was unable to hide from the medical figures which suggested the worst could happen.
Having said all this (sorry for being so lond winded) He is a happy little boy doing everything a 'normal' 6 week old baby should be doing. however it doesn't stop me being paranoid, especially about his breathing and chcking when hes asleep to make sure that he is stil breathing.
if you managed to read all of this (good on you!!!) and thanks for listening.
Jess xxx

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Puppster · 14/10/2008 22:00

I didn't want to read and run. I have no experience but wanted to say I think you're (both!) doing amazingly. Hopefully somebody will be along shortly with more relevant words of support

norksinmywaistband · 14/10/2008 22:04

What an experience, Glad that Elliot is now hope with you and the scan results were promising.

Working in a highly medicalised environment can make difficult/traumatic births 10x worse, as I know from experience

You will hopefully look back on this and realise that at least with your knowledge you can fully explain to elliot the events surrounding his birth.

Congratulations BTW

Ellbell · 14/10/2008 22:05

Hello and welcome to MN. I'm sorry to hear you had such a traumatic experience and that Elliot was so poorly when he was born. It must have been an awful time for you and I'm so glad you've got Elliot home now and that he's doing well. It's no wonder you feel shocked and traumatised by what happened and I hope that in time you'll be able to relax and enjoy being a mum and that the memories of what happened will subside. Good luck from another West-Yorkshire girl (by choice, not by birth!).

megcleary · 14/10/2008 22:09

as a nurse after emergency section for dd last year i just want to send you oodles of love luck and happiness together

megcleary · 14/10/2008 22:09

as a nurse after emergency section for dd last year i just want to send you oodles of love luck and happiness together

MoccaMint · 14/10/2008 22:13

Wow is all I can say. Am a bit shocked reading all that so can only imagine how you must be feeling...

It's always so much worse when you're in the medical profession as you know all the possible outcomes but at the same time can feel so helpless... Specially when it all happens so suddenly.

Hoping that with time your fears and concerns will reduce and you can start having the relationship you need and deserve with your son.

Don't know how I would have coped so am really amazed at you.

liahgen · 14/10/2008 22:19

what a terryfing experience for you all.

I'm glad that you are all ok. Have you thought about contacting birth trauma?

A sign of placental abruption is continuous pain and a hardening of the tummy. You were right to contact the hospital straight away.

Good luck for the future. x

kitstwins · 14/10/2008 22:19

You poor thing. I don't really know what to say other than that I think you are doing fantastically well given what has been a very traumatic experience and introduction into motherhood. It sounds incredibly scary and the fact that you're 'together' enough to write a coherent account of what you went through strikes me as really strong and brave.

I can relate to elements of your story as I know what it is like to be knocked out with a GA for the birth of your baby. My emergency section wasn't crash, but I had a GA due to failure of my epidural and spinal block and I well remember the disorientation of waking up and being told I had two daughters (I was pregnant with twins). That and the excruciating pain from the operation (it somehow gets overlooked that with a section under GA you don't get the epidural for pain management and it can really knock you for six in spite of all the morphine they chuck down you). It was the worse pain I've ever endured and I've had operations before.

All I can say is that from my experience it really helps to talk about this. Given your job it sounds like you have a great grasp of medical matters and, probably, that has been both a help and a disadvantage as you probably almost know too much. So whilst you're fully briefed on all the medical issues please remember that your feelings matter too. Not just the stats and medical terminology but the heart of what you felt and feel about that day and the aftermath. From my experience it really helped to write a very comprehensive birth story down which I gave to two very close girlfriends to read. It was a huge boost to know that two people in the world really knew what happened that day. Not just the sanitised, short 'family-friendly' version but the real story. I also went through my hospital notes (via my PALS) and contacted the Birth Trauma Association website, which is run by Sheila Kitzinger.

You've really been through it and I think it can be very hard to deal with a traumatic birth, not least because there is the expectation that we should all just brush it off and thank our lucky stars that we have a healthy baby. It's important to recognise how lucky we are in having our babies in our arms safe and well, but equally it's important to acknowledge that sometimes the journey is brutal and traumatic and shocking and that needs to be processed. So often I've heard the refrain "my baby arrived safely so everything else is irrelevant" and I really don't think that's true for everyone. Maybe for some, but for most it's important to deal with a shocking event. Acknowledge it as something that wasn't your fault and something that you are doing your best to deal with.

You sound an amazing Mummy. To come through all of this. I think you are wonderful and brave and I really hope things heal for you.

Congratulations on your lovely baby.
Kx

ButterflyBessie · 14/10/2008 22:27

I felt the urge to post

My friend had a placental abruption last year, her baby was born alive at 31 weeks, he is alive and doing well.

It was an incredibly scary time for all concerned.

I do hope you continue to recover from your experience.

Have you contacted the birth afterthoughts at your hospital?

Can you file a complaint wrt the staff at the second hospital?

Congratulations on Elliot, and no I do not think you are a bad mother

ninja · 15/10/2008 09:45

Hi Barnpot reading your story what sticks with me is how strong Elliot sounds. I imagine he'll be able to cope with anything life throws at him after coping with so much already.

I'm not surprised you feel traumatised and I hope posting about it helps

MrsMattie · 15/10/2008 09:54

I found myself fighting back tears reading your birth story. What a traumatic way for your little boy to enter the world.

You must be very, very gentle with yourselves (you and your husband) during the coming months. You have been through a lot, and need some time to get over the shock. I would suggest at some stage, when you are feeling strong enough, that you 'debrief' your birth experience with a professional. Have you got your maternity / labour notes back? If not, request them.

I'm so happy for you that Elliot is doing well, now! He must be a tremendous little fighter.

All the best xxx

AtheneNoctua · 15/10/2008 13:02

You have really been through so much. You should pat yourself on the back for having the strength left to share your story.

lauraloola · 15/10/2008 13:52

Hi Jess, your story made me cry x

I am so glad that you and your husband have Elliot at home safe and sound with you now x He is a very lucky little boy and you should all be so proud of him x

BTW - I second that you should think about making complaints on the care you received. It would be awful for someone else to go through what you did with that sort of compassion.

pookamoo · 15/10/2008 14:00

Hi barnpot and welcome to mumsnet.
I'm here in tears after reading your story!

I'm so pleased to hear that things are now going well and that your lovely family is so strong. It sounds like your husband and both sets of parents are really supportive.
Good luck with everything
xx

Lib76 · 15/10/2008 17:16

barnpot!! you poor poor sole ;-( thank god DS is well. im a nurse too and also had crash section under GA! very scary indeed i know that feeling of lying on table thinking please get baby out safe. unlike you i had been in labour for 20hrs prior and was warned that i neede GA cause i had low platelets. I still go over and over birth in head and i think this is pretty notmal if it had been a difficult birth. you are right that it is sometime MUCH harder having medical knowledge cause you do think the worst. my thoughts are with you, so glad you are both well and enjoying being a mummy :-)

Lib76 · 15/10/2008 17:17

BTW congratulations on the birh of Elliot (lovely name) ;-)

elkiedee · 15/10/2008 17:29

What a stressful experience. Glad that Elliot has come through it ok.

greenlawn · 15/10/2008 18:09

Hi, congratulations on the arrival of your dc. I just had a crash cs two weeks ago, under general anaesthetic. One minute I was having a (very fast) but normal labour, the next I was being bundled along a corridor to theatre and was under. I woke up with no awareness of what had happened and no-one explained other than to say ds3's heart rate had crashed and stayed down.

I was devastated, as I'd had an elective cs first time round (for my twins, one of whom died) then a lovely normal labour for ds2, and I so wanted everything to go normally again for ds3. But it was out of my control and I've had real problems adjusting to that.

I've now been told I can book a session with the consultant to go through what happened, as no-one has explained.

I can really recommend counselling - I had a lot of counselling following the stillbirth of my son and it was incredibly helpful. The "what ifs" are very painful to deal with, and the birth of ds3 has brought it home to me that there are things I've not yet come to terms with.

In the meantime enjoy your dc, he sounds lovely.

frazzledoldbag34 · 15/10/2008 19:31

You poor, poor thing.
Sitting here fighting back tears after reading your story - I'm a qualified (not practicing) midwife so understand what you mean having dealt with abruptions in the past and having a scary experience myself with DD2's labour. (Not that it was anything like as scary as yours must have been but I meant the medical knowledge that just makes it worse).
So glad Elliot is doing so well, and I hope you have lots and lots of support to help you in these early days (which are hard enough to cope with without all the additonal stress and worry you've had).
Warmest wishes and hugs
You sound like a wonderful mummy by the way.
Enjoy your little boy

x

Mumsnut · 15/10/2008 19:38

Hi Jess, and - (very nearly) SNAP! Had placental abruption and crash section (including anaesthetist praying, and strangers asking to see 'the miracle baby' after it was all over). I don't think anyone expected DS to survive, but he did. They were very 'careful' about his prognosis, but he is top of his class in all subjects at 8, no ill effects. Wishing you the same, and congratulations on your lovely son.

MoonlightMcKenzie · 15/10/2008 19:59

Oh barnpot that sound horrific. Elliot must be very strong to have coped with all that, and well done for your own speedy reaction to the 'problem'.

Please don't think that any of what Elliot went through was your fault and try very hard not to dwell on the 'what ifs'. He's just a very special little boy.

Please do take up as much 'help' as you can to process it. How is yout DH coing with it. It can be hard for them at times like this because they didn't go through the experience 'directly' and can often feel not entitled to be upset.

Lots of love to your little family x

jearund · 16/10/2008 21:32

Barnpot you poor thing! I can see why you feel so traumatised now. The shock of the GA would be enough without all the worry about him fitting etc. Your story brought tears to my eyes too. Reiterating what's been said in the post-natal thread though, there is no way you can blame yourself for this - if anything you should be proud of yourself for having the sense to go to hospital and get checked when you were in pain - that's what saved him. But I reiterate what I said on the post-natal thread - it's a terrifying story but it does have a happy end so try to focus on that - thanks to your common sense and the speed and professionalism of the medical staff they got him out in time. My c-section with DD was (mildly compared to yours) traumatic too as my needs seemed to be completely ignored but it was only when I went through my birth notes with them before DS was born that I realised it was because DD was in danger and they were ignoring me to focus on her. And we had a happy outcome. So although it must be horrible to have a crash CS with a GA and to have no say in the matter, it was the fact that they didn't spend time talking it over with you that meant they could act quickly and save him, so they did the right thing and you wouldn't really have wanted it any other way. Well obviously you'd have preferred not to have placental abruption but that was beyond your (or their) control!

A very big virtual hug to you and Elliot x

foxytocin · 22/10/2008 10:34

Barnpot, i meant to acknowledge ages ago that I have read your story. thanks for taking the time to share it. if you find over time the need to retell it, do so. be kind to yourself.

TheHollyandtheBarnpot · 13/12/2008 22:20

Thank you everyone for all your kind messages, I have only just now returned to this thread, mainly because I was afraid, of what I'm not sure.
but looking at Elliot now doing his tummy time and rolling over, I know we are truly blessed to have him here.
And you are so right about him being a fighter, even now as I type he is fighting sleep!
thank you all again, I think now I am coming to terms with it, and feel now that I am able to talk to people face to face without breaking down.
Thanks again. xxx

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