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Going back to homecountry

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aya123 · 26/06/2024 20:36

Ok so hugeeeee concern for me and hubby now
Should i go back to my home country to give birth?
So i now live in africa
1- no offense but my husband doesnt fully trust the medical system here and in my country the healthcare system is top notch
2- in my country im gonna be close to my family and friends which will be amazing BUT my husband is gonna have to go back and forth for the first 3-4 months bcz he has to work
3- i wouldnt be able to come back home, i will have to spend the first week with my baby far from our home (which i consider to be here in africa)
So help pls
THANKS

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MrsTerryPratchett · 26/06/2024 20:40

There are 54 countries in Africa! World class healthcare in some, not in others. FWIW I've received better care in a majority world country than in the UK. I don't know about your home country but will they ask you to pay a lot if you aren't resident? If so is private healthcare in your current country better?

Uncomplicated childbirth is pretty similar anyone with fairly decent healthcare! What are the respective maternal outcomes and child mortality rates?

aya123 · 26/06/2024 20:44

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/06/2024 20:40

There are 54 countries in Africa! World class healthcare in some, not in others. FWIW I've received better care in a majority world country than in the UK. I don't know about your home country but will they ask you to pay a lot if you aren't resident? If so is private healthcare in your current country better?

Uncomplicated childbirth is pretty similar anyone with fairly decent healthcare! What are the respective maternal outcomes and child mortality rates?

Sorry i didnt specify i now live in angola and there is 53 death per 1000 birth according to google
And my ciuntry is lebanon its a small country but it has the best doctors literally and some fancy hospitals
And the fees will be approximately the same
But in my home country i am 100% sure about the quality of care the baby will receive (NICU AND SUCH) but there is mot enough data on the internet about these systems in angola

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aya123 · 26/06/2024 20:45

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/06/2024 20:40

There are 54 countries in Africa! World class healthcare in some, not in others. FWIW I've received better care in a majority world country than in the UK. I don't know about your home country but will they ask you to pay a lot if you aren't resident? If so is private healthcare in your current country better?

Uncomplicated childbirth is pretty similar anyone with fairly decent healthcare! What are the respective maternal outcomes and child mortality rates?

Also in my country theres 9 death per 1000 live birth

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Gummybear23 · 26/06/2024 20:45

Yer sounds poor.
Horrific for those poor people.

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/06/2024 20:47

Angola versus Lebanon, I wouldn't hesitate to go 'home'.

aya123 · 26/06/2024 20:47

Gummybear23 · 26/06/2024 20:45

Yer sounds poor.
Horrific for those poor people.

Ikr! And last time i went in for stomach problems they didnt do anything just gave me some medicines without knowing the causes or running tests
Although the medicine worked it couldve gone really wrong if i was back home i would have had to go through a million test before they gave me anything

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aya123 · 26/06/2024 20:48

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/06/2024 20:47

Angola versus Lebanon, I wouldn't hesitate to go 'home'.

THANK U SO MUCH!

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HowIrresponsible · 26/06/2024 20:49

FCDO advises against all travel to Lebanon due to risks associated with the conflict between Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories. There are ongoing mortar and artillery exchanges and airstrikes in Lebanon, primarily on the boundary with Israel but also elsewhere in the country.

Sounds like a rock and a hard place.

aya123 · 26/06/2024 20:51

HowIrresponsible · 26/06/2024 20:49

FCDO advises against all travel to Lebanon due to risks associated with the conflict between Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories. There are ongoing mortar and artillery exchanges and airstrikes in Lebanon, primarily on the boundary with Israel but also elsewhere in the country.

Sounds like a rock and a hard place.

Hey its not rlly that big my parents are all there in our part there is nothing wrong there is peace
But going to the mountains is practically suicide

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MrsTerryPratchett · 26/06/2024 20:53

HowIrresponsible · 26/06/2024 20:49

FCDO advises against all travel to Lebanon due to risks associated with the conflict between Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories. There are ongoing mortar and artillery exchanges and airstrikes in Lebanon, primarily on the boundary with Israel but also elsewhere in the country.

Sounds like a rock and a hard place.

There are travel advisories for Angola as well. And the UK for that matter!

Not that OP shouldn't consider them and it's good to point out. Honestly, I wouldn't go on holidays if I listened to travel advisories. Or be at home!

Circlingthesun · 26/06/2024 20:54

In your situation I'd go back to Lebanon

MidLifeWoman · 26/06/2024 20:54

You need to go wherever you feel safest. It’s not good giving birth in an environment that you don’t trust.

aya123 · 26/06/2024 20:55

Circlingthesun · 26/06/2024 20:54

In your situation I'd go back to Lebanon

Thanks for your help!!

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HowIrresponsible · 26/06/2024 20:56

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/06/2024 20:53

There are travel advisories for Angola as well. And the UK for that matter!

Not that OP shouldn't consider them and it's good to point out. Honestly, I wouldn't go on holidays if I listened to travel advisories. Or be at home!

There's a difference between going to France and going to Afghanistan 🙄

Surely at some point you listen to travel advisories or doss anything go

aya123 · 26/06/2024 20:56

MidLifeWoman · 26/06/2024 20:54

You need to go wherever you feel safest. It’s not good giving birth in an environment that you don’t trust.

Then i think lebanon is where ill give birth cz also my husband is terrifed of me giving birth here hes always like (what if "god forbid"you died )😂❤️

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YellowHairband · 26/06/2024 20:56

It was the early 90s so a different situation healthcare-wise, but my mother came back to the UK to have me and my little brother, both times leaving my dad in Africa where he worked, and where they both lived.
She moved back in with her parents (as did I when she came back to have my brother), so she had that support, and dad flew back as much as was possible. I think we went back once I was old enough to have the relevant vaccinations for Africa.
I came a bit early so dad did miss my birth - they'd booked his annual leave slightly later to avoid the possibility of him being there too early and not seeing me at all if mum went overdue.

I think for them it was a no-brainer. But 30+ years ago the healthcare considerations may have been different.

aya123 · 26/06/2024 20:58

HowIrresponsible · 26/06/2024 20:49

FCDO advises against all travel to Lebanon due to risks associated with the conflict between Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories. There are ongoing mortar and artillery exchanges and airstrikes in Lebanon, primarily on the boundary with Israel but also elsewhere in the country.

Sounds like a rock and a hard place.

About the last post i know you mean well but everyone i know is in lebanon and trust me when i say there is nothing wrong there its just in the south and its always been like that (90's till now literally) it gets better and worse everyn now and then but were used to it
And if you can see the other part if lebanon like my friends are partying everyday in beirut

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MrsTerryPratchett · 26/06/2024 21:00

There's a difference between going to France and going to Afghanistan

The last place we went on holiday has advisories closer to the second than the first! Since OP lives in Angola, and is from Lebanon, she probably has a perspective that's a little more in the middle.

There's no issue with being cautious. All good. But Angola and Lebanon are probably both safer with local knowledge.

I do listen to travel advisories, I just don't base everything on them. Lots of homework. And as I said the UK has hair raising advisories for citizens of other countries.

aya123 · 26/06/2024 21:00

YellowHairband · 26/06/2024 20:56

It was the early 90s so a different situation healthcare-wise, but my mother came back to the UK to have me and my little brother, both times leaving my dad in Africa where he worked, and where they both lived.
She moved back in with her parents (as did I when she came back to have my brother), so she had that support, and dad flew back as much as was possible. I think we went back once I was old enough to have the relevant vaccinations for Africa.
I came a bit early so dad did miss my birth - they'd booked his annual leave slightly later to avoid the possibility of him being there too early and not seeing me at all if mum went overdue.

I think for them it was a no-brainer. But 30+ years ago the healthcare considerations may have been different.

Okay i really need ur advice cz your family lived it
Do you have any idea if it was hard for your mother being apart from your father for a long time? And was your dad okay with not seeing you everyday the first few months? THANKS a lottt! ☺️

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aya123 · 26/06/2024 21:02

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/06/2024 21:00

There's a difference between going to France and going to Afghanistan

The last place we went on holiday has advisories closer to the second than the first! Since OP lives in Angola, and is from Lebanon, she probably has a perspective that's a little more in the middle.

There's no issue with being cautious. All good. But Angola and Lebanon are probably both safer with local knowledge.

I do listen to travel advisories, I just don't base everything on them. Lots of homework. And as I said the UK has hair raising advisories for citizens of other countries.

Yeah exactly i have a friend who lives in uk i was asking her the other day if it was rlly that bad there she was like no she thinks its safe and she loves it same thing in Lebanon the media loves to exaggerate i guess

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YellowHairband · 26/06/2024 21:08

@aya123 yes I think it was very hard on both of them.
But that was made worse by when it was - no mobiles, video calls, sending pictures etc.
Dad was told I'd been born by my grandad (his FIL) calling from his house phone to say that my mum and grandma were in hospital, baby was born, all was fine, and that she'd call when she got out of hospital. And then he obviously had no pictures or anything like that, so didn't see me until he flew over. And then when he went back to Africa, we didn't follow for a few weeks due to vaccinations, so again, no photos or videos of us.
Nowadays you'd have a lot more contact!

aya123 · 26/06/2024 21:10

YellowHairband · 26/06/2024 21:08

@aya123 yes I think it was very hard on both of them.
But that was made worse by when it was - no mobiles, video calls, sending pictures etc.
Dad was told I'd been born by my grandad (his FIL) calling from his house phone to say that my mum and grandma were in hospital, baby was born, all was fine, and that she'd call when she got out of hospital. And then he obviously had no pictures or anything like that, so didn't see me until he flew over. And then when he went back to Africa, we didn't follow for a few weeks due to vaccinations, so again, no photos or videos of us.
Nowadays you'd have a lot more contact!

Oh yes thats right and my husband can also stay for like a month or a month and a half so its obviously gonna be easier but god your parents were strong to do that🥺!!

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