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39 weeks and blood flow to the cord is apparently not as good as it should be?

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Lafoosa · 08/04/2022 20:34

So I'm 39 weeks today, I had a growth scan because at 36 weeks baby measured small on a very very rushed scan. My consultant kept saying baby was FGR and I needed induction immediately, I opted not to because I felt like they were wrong. Well at today's growth scan they were wrong, baby is nowhere near that small and is actually a good healthy size, not FGR and growing perfectly.
For the last 3 weeks they've been badgering me almost daily with phone calls to try and pressure me to induce, for no reason as it turns out.
Now they've realised at this scan nothing is wrong with growth they've magically found other "problems" that weren't there when I went for a scan a few days ago.
They've been against my plans for home birth my entire pregnancy despite being low risk, they've just been dead set against it because they don't want to do it. They've not even looked at my birth plan, listened to anything I have to say and now apparently blood flow from the cord isn't quite how they want it. But the sonographer told me everything was good when I had the scan today, then the midwife told me it's not and to go to the hospital to be induced. Who do I believe? I'm so fed up of every time they realise they're wrong they come up with something new to send me to hospital for. I've been having contractions all day so far, but they refused to tell me if blood flow can slow during labour or not and they just said to ask when I get to the labour ward.
I'm so stressed out right now, I just feel like they'd do anything to stop me giving birth at home even lie to my face. I know as soon as I walk into that hospital they won't let me leave, and they won't let my OH be with me which they've already said too. So I'd have to be alone and try and stand up for myself while having several people pressuring me to do what they want. They told me 3 weeks ago my baby would die if I didn't get induced right then because she was way too small, they lied and said my placenta wasn't working but when I got a second opinion turns out everything was working absolutely perfectly and baby has been happy and growing well since then without an induction.

Why can't they just be truthful instead of trying to scare me into doing what they want? I just want an honest person to tell me what is actually going on.

Does anyone here know what PI means on maternity notes? Apparently mine is 0.62 which I don't know what means or if it's normal.

Thanks for reading.

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JuneOsborne · 08/04/2022 22:51

I know it must feel like this, but I don't think they're actually lying to you. You almost make it sound like they're being malicious and deceptive: all of them, except the people you get your second opinion from, who you don't think are lying.

If there is a medical professional that sees pregnant women, dozens of the them, every single day and they tell me the baby needs to come out, I'm listening.

It's not like he's too premature to be born, he's term. Allow them to deliver your child safely.

healthierlungs · 08/04/2022 22:52

You seem to be dismissing concerns in order to get the birth you want.

You need to put your baby first and go get induced immediately.

Harsh but true. You shouldn't be risking your babies life for the want of a home birth. The slightest possibility of a problem should be enough to make the right decision

2ndTimeRound90 · 08/04/2022 22:53

I've had a friend lose a baby to placenta failure and another friend who had emergency section just in time for the same reason. She was booked for an induction the following day and was later told if she had waited for the induction then her baby would likely not have survived. It is not worth the risk!

QueenOfHiraeth · 08/04/2022 22:53

Could PI mean placental insufficiency? If it does then induction would be sensible
For what it's worth my own view would be to do what they recommend purely because I wouldn't want to take any chances

RainbowMum11 · 08/04/2022 22:53

The other things haven't been true though, it's not like there's been multiple instances of something being wrong and it's actually something wrong.

They thought baby was too small, turns out they were wrong.
They straight up lied about placenta health, there was absolutely nothing on the scan report to indicate anything wrong and with a second opinion elsewhere turns out nothing was wrong at all.

I've just spoken to another sonographer about my results today and apparently everything was actually in the normal range and they don't even know why the midwife has said it's not.

If things had genuinely been wrong at all this pregnancy of course I'd get an induction, but my midwife is straight up lying to me at every appointment because she's made it clear she doesn't want me to have a home birth.

So fed up at this point, really wish it wasn't too late to get a new midwife

Why would they lie?
Why do you think they are?
Do you suffer with anxiety generally?

As a woman who has experienced neonatal death (which could have been avoided if I'd have had the level of care you appear to have had), trust me - it is not worth the risk (and birth plans aren't worth anything anyway - priority is yours and babies health)

Botanica · 08/04/2022 22:54

Park your ego and let them help you get your baby out safely.

Do you want to be coming back and reading this thread after experiencing a stillbirth?

Some times it's better to be safe than to be right.

Comedycook · 08/04/2022 22:56

I'd take their advice if it was me. Why do you want a homebirth so much?

Suprima · 08/04/2022 23:03

As someone who has lost babies and is very mentally ill and anxious over the well-being of the one I am now carrying- I really do not understand your thought process.

Why do you think they are lying to you? Why do they want to trick you?

Your sonographer isn’t a doctor. Your baby is not well. The blood flow is restricted.

Go and get ready to meet your baby, alive and well.

You are so incredibly blessed.

DysmalRadius · 08/04/2022 23:03

Why do you think they are so anti you having a home birth?

Hugasauras · 08/04/2022 23:12

Why would they lie? They see dozens of women every week, why would they have some vendetta against you specifically where they are making stuff up?

It sounds like there have been a few red flags to do with baby's health, so I would be inclined to take their advice as I doubt anyone working in NHS maternity services right now has the time or inclination to spend making stuff up and performing unnecessary checks for no apparent reason.

Hugasauras · 08/04/2022 23:18

If they have really been calling you daily for three weeks then it sounds like they have real concerns about you and your baby's safety.

HalloHello · 08/04/2022 23:24

In simple, quite horrific terms, it's a hell of a lot more work for the doctors to induce you with all the risks and complications that entails than to let you go naturally. They won't take these decisions lightly and certainly wouldn't induce you if not necessary. No one wants these interventions but the health of your baby and you trumps the birth experience you have thought up in your head. Never goes.as you plan to anyway, you need an open mind and a practical plan B.

Featuredcreature · 08/04/2022 23:25

I absolutely love conspiracy theories, even fully believe a few. What you are saying is basically a conspiracy theory but centering yourself, get your head out of your arse, these people you say are badgering you for some nebulous reason are trying to avoid an avoidable disaster. Go and get the care you need. Birth is one day, one experience in your life, or one regret you will experience for every single day for the rest of your life.

pumpkinpie01 · 08/04/2022 23:46

They are extremely busy professionals, they don't ring women on a whim daily to persuade them to get induced for no reason . Forget a home birth , get to hospital and get induced for your babies safety .

liveforsummer · 09/04/2022 09:32

Are you in the UK? If so its hard to see either why your dp can't be with you or why on earth they'd badger, lie and trick you in to coming in to an already overstretched ward., using lots of time and resources of many staff when you could safely give birth at home.

I had a similar situation actually where one dr said they were worried about condition of the placenta. Was sent to a specialist who said nonsense everything is fine. Dr was not happy with that and encouraged me to go ahead with a 37 week section. Thankfully I listened to the first dr as he was indeed correct. Re the sizes on the scan too Dd1 in this example was indeed slightly larger than the scan but the placenta was in terrible condition and wouldn't have sustained her much longer. Dd2 they were happy with and said she was about 7.5lb. She was bang in 5lb. The scans are not accurate for weight.

What is FGR?

NerrSnerr · 09/04/2022 10:13

What is the rule regarding your husband being with you? Is it that he can be there when you're in active labour/ actually having a c section.

The outcome you want is a healthy baby. You have to do whatever it takes.

babydays123 · 11/04/2022 12:43

@Lafoosa

The other things haven't been true though, it's not like there's been multiple instances of something being wrong and it's actually something wrong.

I've just spoken to another sonographer about my results today and apparently everything was actually in the normal range and they don't even know why the midwife has said it's not.

So fed up at this point, really wish it wasn't too late to get a new midwife.

I've had a pregnancy with lots of conflicting information too.

I was having extra scans due to my age and baby's growth slowed on two fo them so they sent me for a 3rd 2 weeks later prepping me that I'd likely be induced if baby had slowed again. 3rd scan was hard to get ans all of a sudden he was a big baby and recommended an induction a few days later because of this. (they were open about the inaccuracy of late scans but explained it's the only tool they had)

I was really torn, it meant I was being induced just a week before my due date but my previous pregnancies have both been overdue so I just knew it was likely to be a long induction.

Anyway. To cut to the end. Induction was long, pessary, oxytocin, nothing was getting me passed 2cm so after 36 hours I was wheeled in for a c section.

What a dream, such an easy procedure and thoroughly enjoyed it. Baby wasn't as big as predicted (8lb6) BUT he had the cord round his neck AND a True Knot in his umbilical cord that could have lead to some really scary outcomes, at the very least I was told it probably would have lead to an emergency c section.

My point is, there's a lot of unknowns in labour and the healthcare professionals do their best to make decisions that create a safe and risk averse scenario.

I'd take the induction, you will be monitored very closely which is a huge plus if there's these question marks over things.

Get that baby out safe and sound and start planning the rest of your lives together ♥️♥️♥️

Namechange466 · 11/04/2022 13:04

You are not a midwife or consultant are you- so why do you think you know better than the professionals telling you what to do

Why would they trick you and lie to you to get you into hospital - when a c section is actually more expensive for the nhs

please wake up and get real - this is your baby’s life. Their life is more important than your hope of a lovely, calm home birth

if the baby is not getting enough blood- i can’t even fathom why you are considering otherwise

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