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VBAC or elective section - how did you choose and were you happy with your decision?

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alicet · 06/09/2007 12:27

I had an emergency c-section when I was 9cm dilated with ds1 after he became distressed. Made a good recovery and have only positive memories of my experience even though it wasn?t the water birth using gas and air I had planned. When it came to deciding how to deliver ds2 due in 5 weeks I have agonised over the pros and cons and had come down to deciding to have an elective section. Mainly when it boiled down to it this was what my gut reaction said and I think this is as good a reason as any. My main concern was that I wouldstruggle to look after ds1 but we had found ways round that by ensuring that either dh or my mum would be with me for the first 6-8 weeks and that they would be able to lift him onto my lap etc so he didn?t have to miss out on mummy time.

Well yesterday I went to a physio appointment as I have been having back pain and sciatica type symptoms and to cut a long story short I shouldn?t be lifting ds1 at the moment anyway ? should be trying to find ways round this. This made perfect sense but I was surprised at how much the thought of this upset me. I know regardless of how I give birth ds1 will have to get used to doing more himself once I have 2 to look after but it got me thinking that if being able to look after ds2 myself is so important to me maybe I have been silly to decide on an elective section.

So really what I would appreciate is to hear from people who had to make the same decision as me ? vbac or elective section ? how they came to the decision they did and do they regret / feel pleased with their final decision. With the greatest respect I don?t need opinions as to what I should or shouldn?t do from all the very well informed people on here. This is about trying to get a feel for other people?s experiences in order to make up my own mind.

Thanks very much for reading through my long post and I look forward to hearing your experiences?

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alicet · 21/09/2007 12:20

Good on your hairybabysmum. At least you have been able to make a decision yourself rather than be browbeaten into one by your mw! Good luck and keep us posted!

Less than 2 weeks till mine now - can't believe it!!!

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thehairybabysmum · 21/09/2007 12:26

yes feel happy...think the thought of going overdue rahter than giving birth was what was really stressing me, im just so uncomfy with the SPD.

i also feel better about it as i remembered that i was more mobile next day after last section than i had been the day before due to SPD even though the scar was sore. Im managing with ds now so figure it will be pretty much the same.

Mines booked for 2 days after yours...good kluck to you too!!

alicet · 21/09/2007 12:47

Great hbm! Have you checked out the due Oct thread at all? There are some fab ladies on there who are really supportive.

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alicet · 21/09/2007 12:51

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/2290/385912?ts=1190375467802 if you fancy checking it out....

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alicet · 29/09/2007 22:36

hbm - just to let you know I'll be thinking of you this week... Thought I would post now as I won't get a chance after I go into hospital on tues! Look forward to hearing how you have got on - who knows you might have had your baby by now!

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Daisy73 · 02/10/2007 15:37

I'm so pleased to read everyone's comments I'm new to the site but have been agonising over VBAC vs EC so much over the past few weeks that I signed onto the forum today specifically to see how other people felt and found this threat! Reassured that everyone's agonising the same way, and seeing the different viewpoints have helped categorise my various stresses (though not yet make up my mind!). I'm tending towards the elective c section but wavering daily! I have an appt with a consultant on Monday to ask his advice, but I want to have a fairly clear idea of how I'm feeling before going into the appt, so I can ask all the right questions. Good luck to everyone who still has births/decisions outstanding, and glad you've come to a decision that's right for you, Alicet!

ejt1764 · 05/10/2007 18:28

Would just like to add to the mix that I had a really positive hospital water vbac on Tuesday of this week.

It took a lot of planning and talking to different people at the hospital, but the birth of dd was exactly how I would have wanted ... and the difference in mobility is huge ... I suffered with spd and coccyx pain during this pregnancy too, and the spd has almost totally resolved already - the physio has told me that the hormones involved in a natural labour have kick-started the healing process.

Birth story follows:

Afternoon all ... Apologies in advance for cross-posting this, but dh has Mairwen all cuddled in to him, allowing me 5 minutes to come and tell you all about it!

Well, as you know I had acupuncture on Saturday afternoon (seems like another dimension), then when I came home, the period cramps got stronger, and more unpleasant, and I was running back and for to the loo all the time.
Took some paracetemol then went to bed with the TENS machine on, woke at 10.30ish and had a show - got very excited!! Went back to bed, and woke at 11.20 to a gush of pink liquid - panicked a bit as I thought I was bleeding, so phoned the hospital, and they told me it was probably just more of the show. 11.45, I had another gush, and started getting BIG contractions, so phoned them again, and they told me to go in.

By the time we arrived the contractions were rolling in every 2 minutes or so, and when I was examined I was already 5 cm dliated. I'd asked if the pool was free the minute I walked in through the door, and was told that some interest had been shown in it, but I was quite forceful about wanting it ... and as the cosultant had written about water on my notes, I was taken to the pool room. At the 1st examination, I was told that baby was back-to-back, so getting in the water was just magic!

After a while, the contracctions were really hurting my back, and I got the urge to push. Wonderful midwife told me that this was probably because of position of baby, and that I'd need to breathe through them for the time being. I had the good old gas and air, to take the urge off the need to push.

At about 4am, the midwife suggested that she examine me, although it wasn't really time, as I was having real problems blowing through the urge to push, so I got out of the water, and she examined me, to find that the baby was in fact already on her way down the birth canal!

I got back in the water, and started pushing, midwife was fabulous, quite firm with me, but not at all in my face. Eventually, it got to 5.30am, and as I had had a previous section, and was getting quite tired, she suggested I get out of the water, and we would assess whether I needed to go upstairs to the CLU.

The thought of not getting my natural vbac, and the walk from the pool to the mattress seems to have given me a 2nd wind, as I got down onto all fours and pushed the baby out 10 minutes later.

I tore quite badly (wonderful midwife sewed me up beautifully!), and also needed a managed 3rd stage as I was getting to the edge of the bleeding being classed as a pph, so consented to the injection.

Mairwen fed before we left the delivery room, then we went back to the original room we had come from where we had a wonderfully unhassled period of skin-to-skin, and got to know our new baby.

That was Monday - we came home later on Monday afternoon, and have been getting to know our daughter. I've had some difficulty establishing breastfeeding, but have been superbly supported by the midwives and breastfeeding cousellors at the hospital, and I think we're getting there.

I've laid a lot of demons to rest in the past couple of days!!

Lulumama · 06/10/2007 08:20

wonderful birth story

congratulations on the safe arrival of your baby, you must be delighted.. and to get what you wanted to in terms of your birth preferences.

i know that feeling about laying demons to rest.

amazing news , well done xxx

shoptilidrop · 06/10/2007 12:36

sorry to hijack the thread for a second.

im just about to start tccing again.

my dd was elective cs after 3 failed attempts at induction. I have never even had a contraction!

prior to that i had a large ovarian cyst remeoved, which was basically an op like a cs, but with a cyst and no baby!

so ive been cut twice.

Tbh i would like another elective cs, but do you get to chose on the nhs??? and does my history of two cuts and a non responsive induction have any bearings on this?

Lulumama · 06/10/2007 12:38

yes and yes is the short answer..

can you tell me a bit more about the failed induciton...sometimes they fail for reasons that can be avoided next time...

shoptilidrop · 06/10/2007 12:45

oh, well thats good then.

i was in germany, i had 3 of the gels. they did nothing.

my dd had stopped moving, ( basically i had no more roomd for her) and he hb was all over the place.

So they decided to induce me, had 3 gels over 2 days, and didnt experience even 1 contracition. They said i could have gone onto a drip etc... but they thought it may take a while to get me going. By this point i had been in hospital for 4 days and was a bit fed up so asked for a section.

I have a crap tummy now, with no feeling at all, so a second for another child would not be a problem. tbh i had lost 50% of feeling from when i had my cyst removed, so i didnt find the cs painful at all.

and sorry for the hijack again.

Alicet, its a hard decision, and i guess you just have to chose what you are happiest with.

Lulumama · 06/10/2007 12:47

did you start to dilate or efface at all? were you overdue?

shoptilidrop · 06/10/2007 12:54

nope, not at all

and i was 2 days early.

Lulumama · 06/10/2007 12:58

so were you induced because of the size of your little one? sorry for all teh questions, just trying to get an idea..

but at the end of the day, you can surely ask for an elective, and having already had failed induciton and previous surgery, tehn i cannot imgaine you being told no

LoRayningNewtsAndFrogs · 06/10/2007 13:01

Just adding my experience here, I know Alicet ahs already made her decision, but fro anyone else.
I had an emergency c-section with DD at 32 weeks because of placental abruption. With DS I felt I was totally pushed into having an elective section, I actually cried to my consultant and begged to be allowed to have him naturally, unfortunately I didnt realise how much the choice was mine then.

I am now pregnant again, and am determined to go into labour with this baby!

I think on making the decision the whole point is whether or not a vaginal birth feels as important to you as it does me, also recovery time can make a big issue, I will have a 7yo and a 3yo to look after as well as the new baby, so even my midwife suggested a VBAC would be more feasible in my situation.

For any of you having a VBAC, good luck, and for those of you who don't, good luck to you too!

shoptilidrop · 06/10/2007 13:05

she was normal size, just had stopped moving as seemed to have ran out of room! im quite small.

so if i ask for another section i will probably be allowed to get one?

i would like to experience a vbac, but sometimes it a a bit better the devil you know!

i shall watch this thread with interest as i may change my mind!

thanks

Lulumama · 06/10/2007 13:07

it might have been that she was not quite ready to be born, some women need to be pregnant longer

or her size truly was an issue

but if your cervix is not ready, then it can take days to get into labour if at all

keep an open mind, you can do some research, have a think about things, get some more opinions and see how you feel about things

shoptilidrop · 06/10/2007 13:14

i think i will do,

thanks very much for your advice.

it might have been i was meant to carry her for longer. But when she was born the mws said she actually looked like she was a bit overdue????

i shall def look into it all, and i have a while to think about it as im not even pg yet!

Lulumama · 06/10/2007 13:17

any info you want, you will get it here , good luck getting pregnant x

alicet · 11/10/2007 12:59

Ladies I had ds2 by elective section on 2nd October and it was the best decision I have ever made.

A bit surreal to wake up and go 'lets go have our baby today!'. I was third on the list which meant we didn't get going until just after midday. But iut was all very relaxing - the staff were all very chilled and helped me to feel relax. All the elements of my birth plan that were important to me were done and it was great.

Dh watched the whole thing. I asked for the screen to be lowered when he was born and the also raised my head so I could see it all (couldn't see incision though which I was very happy about!). It was amazing and incredibly moving to watch this after all the panic last time. And he was passed straight out to the midwife and then put straight onto my chest for skin to skin which was just magical. LAst time I hadn't been able to cuddle ds1 - dh held him next to me - so it was great. I have some amazing photos of it all (some on profile if anyone is interested).

Recover was so much better - I had expected this but not the extent of it. I would have gone home the following day (and stopped painkillers on about day 5) but wanted a bit more support with breast feeding as ds2 was having a few probs latching on.

3 days after my section I was out and ab out, 4 days after I was in the park and pizza express with my boys and since then I have been doing pretty much all as normal just being careful with lifting stuff and obviously not driving.

It helps that dh is very supportive and has 2 weeks off now and 2 from 4-6 weeks and my paretns are coming to stay in the interveneing 2 weeks (and I get on with them!!).. And I also had no demons to expel from last time as despite it not being what I would have chosen I felt in control and informed throughout and was happy in the end with everything that happened.

I do think its a very personal thing - what was so so right for me would be someone elses nightmare scenario. So I think you need to think about what is important to you and in the end go with your gut reaction. If anyone wants to ask me anything about it you are very welcome to CAT me and I will anwer anything you are unsure about or send you my birht plan.

Good luck those of you still trying to decide....

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RedFraggle · 11/10/2007 13:43

Congratulations Alicet! Enjoy your new baby!

pinguino · 18/10/2007 07:22

I had an elective after much deliberation. My scan indicated a large head like my first baby so went with it. Ended up with a much smaller baby so wonder if I could have pushed him out!

Anyway, no complaints about the section. Very calm throughout and was out of hospital the next day with minimal pain relief. Compared to last time, I was still in agony 2 weeks later. I found this thread when trying to decide and could not believe an elective would be so different!!

alicet · 18/10/2007 15:12

pinguino I could have written your post! Totally agree with it being a lot easier than I expected! COngratulations about your lo!

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