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Share experiences and get support around labour, birth and recovery.

Traumatic birth but want a second baby...

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XxxPinkPebblesxxX · 23/12/2017 16:38

Hello,

Ive just discovered this wonderful forum and hoping to gain some advice from you lovely ladies. I’d really appreciate it.

I gave birth to my beautiful baby girl two years ago. Firstly, so you get a better understanding of me personally, I’m a total worrier. I have OCD and over analyse things and catastrophise even when nothing has happened. I’m always anticipating expecting the worse to happen when something really important in my life is happening and it means so much to me. I’m on anti anxiety medication (I’ve had a lot of losses in my life and was severely bullied at secondary school). As a result I haven’t got much confidence or self belief and worry about what other people think. However, I’m seeking therapy to help with these issues.

So when I fell pregnant my husband and I were over the moon. Having a baby was a dream and I could wait. But I had to stop my medication abruptly due to the pregnancy, and I really struggled throughout the whole 9 months with anxiety and bring absolutely petrified about labour and giving birth. I was in tears at most of my midwife appointments. I was told I’d be consultant led due to my anxiety but this never happened. I’d mention it every time but the midwives didn’t give me any answers about being referred. I just got on with it but it was really hard.

When I went into labour I was scarec and panicky and was at the hospital back and forth a few times but sent home. My experience of this was that I was so frightened and felt so out of control and didn’t feel like the midwives understood as they didn’t know my background. I hadn’t got a birthing plan in place, I knew I just wanted a pool birth.

As things progressed I was taken to the delivery suite and our room had a pool! My husband turned to me and said “we shall be ok, our midwife seems lovely, we can do this”. I used gas and air, breathing and visualisation techniques,and I felt in control. I was 10cm dilated now and a second midwife came in to assist with the delivery. Things had come to a standstill and I was taken out of the pool.

And that’s where things went downhill. As soon as I stood up I was in excruciating pain. When I’d been at home I’d just lay down in the bath as the water really helped, and as soon as I got into the birthing pool it was a relief too. Now the contractions were horrendous, right up my bottom and in my lower back. I was told to lie down on the couch and I screamed out saying I couldn’t, but I was told to push so I did with all my might. The midwives exclaimed that they could see our baby’s head and that spurred me on even more. This went on for ages. Eventually something in me snapped and I started swearing and asking why she wasn’t here. I felt horrendous and kept saying that I felt traumatised. I suppose this was the gas and air and exhaustion talking but I remember feeling a sense of impending doom. I couldn’t explain how I was feeling so it just came out as “I feel traumatised”. I felt trapped in a tunnel and I couldn’t see the light. I was in so much pain and I had no idea if my baby was ok or when I’d see her. Our midwife said the next step was a drip with drugs to make the contractions stronger. I flatly refused and said they needed to get the baby out. I was so unbelievably exhausted, upset and angry. The midwife who had joined us later said “why are you feeling like this? Is it because labour isn’t what you thought it was going to be?” Looking back now this was such an insensitive thing to say. I feel like she thought I was over reacting. I’d never had a baby before but I knew something wasn’t right, I knew my body. After a while the midwives said they thought the baby was OP position so they requested that I was checked out by a Registrar. I had to push so she could see what was happening during my contractions. This was one of the most challenging experiences of my life. When you’re going through so much pain and you have no choice but to grit your teeth and go through it, it was so challenging. She got really cross with me and told me to be quiet and listen to her. I didn’t feel she was supportive at all, I just felt like I was doing it all wrong and everyone was angry at me. She decided that I’d need to go to theatre. If they couldn’t get the baby out using the ventouse method then I’d need a C-section.

As I was being wheeled down I was in so much pain I begged the midwife next to me to give me more gas and air. She snapped at me and said “You can’t have anymore Rebecca”, like I’d said something wrong. Eventually our baby was born in theatre via vontouse. I felt in a daze and really I’ll, but we were sent home later that evening.

I couldn’t breastfeed as my baby wouldn’t latch and I felt like such a failure. I also developed an infection in my episiotomy scar and fell very ill. My anxiety soared and I had what felt like a breakdown. I was depressed for about three months even though I was back on my medication.

When I look back, I feel traumatised and totally at a loss and out of control of how the situation went and was dealt with. I’d now love to have another child and give our daughter a sibling but I’m so scared and my husband is really not in the same place as me after what happened. What if the pregnancy is just as scary, what if the labour and birth is the same and I don’t get the support I need mentally and emotionally like before? I’ve been so affected by the ordeal I’ve needed to increase the strength of my antidepressants and in turn I struggled to bond with my baby. I now adore being a mum, I wouldn’t change it for the world. But the experience has scarred me.

Could anyone help? Do I see the GP in the New Year and discuss my options? Do I contact my health visitor? Do I try a birthing centre or am I in the catagory to request a c-section? Any advice or experienced would be much appreciated. Thank you so much.

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Relaxing2 · 23/12/2017 18:54

Hiya Hun sounds like you had a awful time I'm pregnant with my 3rd now 25 weeks and I'm scared of labour and birth nothing I can do about it now just keep thinking of the end result I've suffered with anxiety really bad in this pregnancy I've been doing cbt feeling abit better I wouldn't let all that has happened stop you from wanting what you want there are ways around it Hun think of the positive cx

XxxPinkPebblesxxX · 23/12/2017 19:22

Thanks Hun. I also feel anxious about putting another little one in the mix and how will we cope?! Lol! Worried they won’t get on but I know siblings argue sometimes. Just a lot to think about and feel frightened that history will repeat itself and I’ll end up in the same position or worse xxx

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Candyfloss1122 · 23/12/2017 19:29

I'm so sorry to read your story :( it sounds absolutely horrendous.

I know it isn't within everyone's budget, but you could hire an independent midwife. They cost around 3k but honestly they are worth every penny. I could never imagine in a billion years that my independent midwife would treat me like this. We have built an amazing relationship and I can't wait for her to deliver my second baby.

Might be worth looking into, as I'm sure it would be COMPLETELY different. It would also mean that from your first appointment, right the way through to your birth, and post birth it would be the same person, and as someone with anxiety also this was a huge deal to me.

boopdoop · 31/12/2017 15:49

So sorry you had such a awful experience.

One thing which might help is to sit and talk through it with an experienced senior midwife. Our hospitals call it Birth Stories. It gives you the chance to talk through what happened and why, and help to put into place a plan for next time which would minimise the changes of a similar experience.

You can also request a c-section. This might not get booked until 36 weeks and you might be required to have a few appointments with specialist midwife then consultant in order to get it, which can be tough - but my understanding is that you have the right to one if you want. Given your anxiety and your experience last time this should be an option for you.

You can start the process by either contacting your maternity unit or go via 'pals' at your hospital, who would then arrange for you to have a meeting with a senior midwife to discuss.

XxxPinkPebblesxxX · 31/12/2017 20:02

Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my post. I really appreciate it and you’ve all helped me in some way with your points.

boopdoop, thank you so much. It’s really helped me to hear that. I forgot to mention I did have a birth reflection meeting around 6 months after having my baby but I went alone and didn’t feel like I do now. I’m not sure whether to contact them again?

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boopdoop · 31/12/2017 23:59

I would contact them again, explain you would like to have another baby, but would like to talk through what might happen as you still don't feel ok about what happened and it's impacting how you feel about giving birth again etc. Ultimately I am sure they want to help you to get to a point of feeling ok about it. It's definitely worth exploring, and they'll also have a process with a senior midwife if you want to request a c-section so it would mean you can start exploring that.

Lollipop30 · 02/01/2018 15:34

So basically your first experience sounds like mine. Horrific.

I’ve since had two others (the last being 31st). Amazingly relaxed, I had home water births with both. Because it was at home labour was allowed to progress naturally which just meant no trauma. No needing to get out the pool, no examinations. Check out the thread on home births. I know I’d have freaked if I’d had to go through the same again as with the first.

Tedster77 · 02/01/2018 15:45

I can feel the horror via what you’re writing. I had a horrendous experience with my first, despite a fast vaginal birth after induction. Left alone, no support, baby bears born on toilet, screamed at to push, baby born in shock, thought he was dead.... had horrific PND etc.

Went on to have another and had him at home ON MY TERMS. Had to transfer in after but the birth and care was a million times more positive.

Went on to train as a midwife then Health Visitor having learnt so much from my experiences and those of other traumatised women.

My kids are teenagers now but it was such a scary journey - but I have no regrets x

Tedster77 · 02/01/2018 15:46

Baby BEARS HmmConfused oh Jesus - it wasn’t that crazy!!! Wink

Gizzymum · 20/01/2018 15:02

You could look into Doula's. They aren't trained midwives but are there to support you during labour. If she knows you well, and your history and can explain all of this for you to the midwives etc when you are in labour you can just focus on the birth. She would also know your birth plan and would support you in getting what you want. It might give you that experienced support you want, plus she will know your history and can stick up for you if people don't speak to you in an appropriate professional manner.

I hope your next birth goes well. Xx

NameChange30 · 20/01/2018 15:08

Sorry you had such a difficult time.

If I were you I would:

  • Have therapy to process what happened to you and work on strategies for managing your anxiety now and in the future. Counselling and CBT are both very helpful.
  • Try mindfulness, there is an app called Headspace as well as books and even courses on it. There is evidence showing that it is effective against anxiety.
  • Hire a doula to support you for the birth next time.
  • Consider hypnobirthing, if the doula is trained in it that would be a bonus, as they could help you use the techniques when in labour.

Good luck Flowers

NameChange30 · 20/01/2018 15:16

By the way you don’t have to stop anti depressants during pregnancy, there are some that are safe to take. If your GP can’t advise you could ask for a referral to a perinatal psychiatrist. Either way if you are experiencing anxiety or depression during pregnancy you should be referred to the perinatal mental health team for extra support.

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