Can you have a normal vaginal delivery.....

[crispyduck]

after 2 c sections...
dh and I would like to try for another baby..thanks x

I have no experience or advice about this but bumping for you

i have no personal experience but i am sure it is possible.

bump!

that;s a question !! am supporting someone who is going through the same dilemma !

DaisyMOO had a VBA2C....

think it was a homebirth too

great site for VBAC info there is also a Yahoo VBAC site which daisy has a link to

why did you have your 2 c.s previously?

cheers for link...both were emergency sections....
here goes in order of births
dd-emergency c sec due to foetal distress
ds1- vaginal delivery
ds2 emergency c section due to major plancenta previa

as you can see I have had break between sections but have always been told that I would be best having c sections if anymore children are to follow....

the once a c.s always a c.s is not necessarily true.

your last c.s was for a condition that totally ruled out vaginal delivery, so not like you laboured and were unable to deliver !

why is it best for you to have more c.s?

anyhoo...got to go out now, but i;m sure someone will be along later with more info

if DaisyMOO does not see this thread i will email her later x

bumping for daisymoo....

thanks..have to go out but will come back to thread shortly...anymore info will be gratly appreciated..

my friends having a baby later this year she hada cs but they are gonna try and have a normal delivery this time best thing to do is talk to your midwife.

Hi crispyduck (I actually have a pet duck called Crispy, lol)

The concern with labouring after two previous c-sections is that there may be a higher risk of uterine rupture. There is increasing evidence that the rate of uterine rupture after two cesareans is little different compared with women who've only had one cesarean and I know of many women who have had successful vaginal deliveries after 2, 3 or even 4 cesareans. The fact that you've had a previous vaginal birth also increases the likelihood that you would be able to give birth this way again.

Many hospitals will tell you that you are 'not allowed' a vaginal delivery after two cesareans. This is simply not true and you cannot be forced to have a repeat cesarean against your will, but you may need to be prepared to be determined not to be railroaded into it. I was in a similar-ish situation to you in that I had a vaginal delivery and then two elective cesareans for various reasons. When it came to my fourth though I really wanted a natural birth again but the doctors at my local hospital varied from supportive to downright obstructive! In the end I was not confident that I would be able to labour well or safely in hospital so I booked a home birth which went very smoothyl. Obviously you need to look at the options and make your own choice. The vbachbac yahoo group which Lulu mentioned is a good place for support and information and do let me know if you have any specific questions or concerns that I can try and help with!

Hi daisy
Thanks for the info...I found that the recovery after the 2nd section took alot longer than the first...and I really dont want to be railroaded down that route if I can help it....many thanks

On another site I frequent we have had a triumphant HWBA2C (with Doula support) very recently and a VBA3C nearly a year ago. We have a fair few VBA2C in the planning.

I have no idea who told you it's best to have CS if you want to have more children because it's statistically safer for you to have VBAC.

Daisymoo has already given great advice as has Lulumama.

For those attempting a VBA2C:
this
this
this
And a birth story: this
this

YES YES YES

I had a VBAC2, you have had a vaginal delivery so are obviously capable, foetal distress? in my opinion I would also be a little distressed if I was being squeezed through a small tunnel?? (babys point of view) after floating around in a lovely safe environment and having to meet the outside world. Personally I think this excuse is used far too often for knife happy surgeons.

Please read the websites recommended to you, you can then base your decision on factual evidence.

I have had two emergency sections, and one vaginal delivery in hospital, if and when I do have a fourth baby I will be staying at home to birth in peace??

Any advice please do ask, have not got a lot of time at the moment but lulu and daisymoo will have loads of great advice in whatever decisions you need to make.

Sorry to hijack but can I ask what happens if the uterus ruptures? I keep hearing this risk as a reason not to have a VBAC are there any others or is this the only one?
Good luck crispy duck!

My uterine scar ruptured while attempting VBAC with ds2. I experienced a sharp pain roughly where the scar was and was in agony with each contraction. I was only 1cm dilated at this point. I had been labouring for about 8 hours. I do remember the two MW's who were with me exchanging a look when I told them where the pain was. I was rushed up for a CS and ds2 was delivered shortly afterwards. On the postnatal ward the obgyn came to see me and said that there had been meconium leaking out of the scar so I guess it wasn't too bad a rupture. I went on to have ds3 by emergency CS also, for placenta praevia, he was born at 32 weeks.

I feel that the reason for the rupture was that synotocin was administered and that the whole birth was too medicalised, I was confined to the bed for most of it which didn't help matters.

I feel that the reason for the rupture was that synotocin was administered and that the whole birth was too medicalised, I was confined to the bed for most of it which didn't help matters.

a lot of obs are reluctant to give synto after a c.s, for that very reason ! i am glad that you have had a positive outcome!

Fairy- if the uterus ruptures fully, it can be catastrophic , and possibly fatal to mum and baby......it is rare. and there are signs of impending rupture , often before it reaches this stage.

the scar can start to come apart, (dehisence) and there are signs, and then a c.s would be done immediately....

good info here