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Tokophobia, have you told your gp?

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user1483291956 · 01/01/2017 17:53

Is there anyone on here who has, or thinks they may, tokophobia? I would love to have children but I have a deep fear of childbirth. Every time it was on TV, films or featured in books I would feel hot, sick and shaky. I regularly wake up in the middle of the night and spend hours worrying about it. Over time I have become a little more accustomed to pregnancy and birth by forcing myself to look at images, starting off with mild diagrams and can now look at photos without becoming too uncomfortable, however this has taken me 15 years of hard work. 10 years ago I had an unexpected pregnancy and despite desperately wanting to keep my baby I felt I had no other option but to have an abortion due only to my fear. I did mention my reason at the abortion clinic appointments but they were brushed over by the nurses as "everyone gets scared but you'd be fine" and so with no support I went ahead with the abortion. Something which I regret to this day. I'm now 30 and would really like to start a family, but no matter how hard I try I cannot get over this fear alone. As part of my research I have found some nhs guidelines (nice) which state that if a lady really wants a caesarian section she should be offered support and help, but ultimately it would be her choice. I know some of you will probably feel this is the wrong choice as it's a major operation and carries significant risk. I am fully aware of, and understand this. However it is the only way I can ever envisage being able to mentally cope with pregnancy and birth. I have researched people who have opted to have an nhs caesarian on the Internet and seem to be getting quite mixed stories, including those who have been refused whilst heavily preganat. Has anyone on here been in a similar situation? Were you able to get agreement before you became pregnant? Waiting until already pregnant really isn't an option for me as c section is the only way I could allow a pregnancy to progress and I really don't want another of my babies to suffer being aborted. Was your gp understanding? What about family and friends? The few people I've trusted enough to share this with really haven't understood. How did your partner feel about it? I would really appreciate any answers, feeling really alone at the moment.

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user1483291956 · 13/07/2017 23:22

Well I thought I'd give an update... and ask my next bundle of questions!

Firstly, thankyou. I read back through these messages often, usually whenever I'm having anxious moments, (frequently and generally in the middle of the night!) It's just so reassuring to know there are people who do actually understand. So thankyou again to all of you for your replies 💛.

Well, what's been happening... back in February I had a telephone consultation with a cbt therapist. It wasn't the best phonecall actually, got pretty emotional. She was saying she didnt think i was in the riggt frame of mind to try cbt as I was focused more on a caesarian than curing my phobia. I was devestated that I'd told her some really personal infornation... and she wasn't going to try to help!

She called back the next day to say she had spoken to her manager and wanted to meet me in person. I met her back in March and we did a session of cbt to give me an idea of what it would be like. I still struggled with the the idea of having a vaginal birth as my end goal, but I understand the therapy has no chance of working if I dont.

My local cbt service is so busy that I'm yet to get an appointment, half of me is eagerly awaiting it's start. The other half soooo grateful for the wait!

In May I was watching TV with my lovely partner when an episode of Gavin and Stacey came on. You know, the one where Ness gives birth. I tried my usual casual trick of trying to change the channel, nope, he wanted to watch it.... next trick, I'll keep chatting and try and ignore it, nope, he wants to watch it. I'll do the washing up, nope, come and sit with me. By this point I was pretty horrified and trying desperately not to watch or listen to anything. In the end it turned out to be the best thing to happen. He saw how panicky I had got and wanted to really know why. We spoke for hours about everything and I honestly couldn't have asked for a more caring response. He admits he doesn't really understand, but is trying to and has been googling things on and off and asking me questions. Honestly feel overwhelmed and so grateful for his caring and desire to help, especially as this potentially affects his future so much too.

I took the advice about writing to PALS. Unfortunately after 12 weeks of no response I contacted them again, PALS checked and confirmed they had asked the appropriate department to contact me. After about another month I received a one line email from the head of midwifery, to say my local hospital doesn't have any policies on tokophobia. I replied to her twice, explaining in more detail, however she hasn't replied. Still, I'm looking on the positives- I have her name now and will make sure I never see her!

7 weeks ago I went back to my GP and asked him if I could try his second option- being referred to a gynae. He agreed and said he'd send off the referral. He also tried to convince me to have antidepressants again. I've declined, I honestly don't feel depressed. Anxious yes, extemely. In the middle of the night, perhaps a little out of control. But other aspects of my life are great, I really dont feel down about anything else. Has anyone else been offered these? I'm doubting things now and wondering if it's a normal part of the process!

Well, yesterday after some gentle nagging from the lovely man I called the hospital to see when I was likely to hear about an appointment. The secretary was able to confirm there had been communication between my Gp and the gynae but I could not have an appointment without further confirmation from my GP. He called me today to explain the situation. He said he has picked this particular gynae as he believes she cares about the lady and the whole situation, rather than just a physical need as some consultants do. (Very grateful to him for this). He explained that the delay has been caused by the gynae wanting me to have cbt before or alongside seeing her as she recognises it as an important part of treatment. However the cbt service are not replying to him when he asks about waiting times. My GP has kindly agreed to contact the gynae and ask her to see me before I start cbt. He has also recommended I look into private cbt and hypnotherapy in our local area as he feels this might help. I've been googling prices and they seem to be ranging from £40 to £100 per session, with sessions recommended as weekly. Has anyone tried this before and have any idea of how many weeks I would need to go for? Trying to calculate how much overtime I might need to do to fund this! Also, has anyone tried hypnotherapy?

So really, the wait goes on. But, thanks to all of you wonderful people, after many years I'm actually at the beginning of a journey, all be it slow and anxious. I wasn't going anywhere before and I was still just as anxious. Trying not to get my hopes up, but maybe, just maybe, the gynae will understand.

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AInman · 07/09/2017 23:08

Hi all, I too feel like I might have a version of this. The thought of childbirth terrifies me and I don't do well with needles either so the idea of an epidural and/or a c-section is just as bad. I'm not pregnant but my husband and I have been talking about trying. We were going to start soon, but the thought of childbirth puts me off even trying, which has upset him. He gets I'm scared and says he'll be there for me, but sometimes I wonder if he gets how terrified I am. I've started to watch one born every minute for the first time, to see if it helps, but I'm not sure it does. Has anyone else had counselling and found it worked, or can suggest anything to make the idea of childbirth less daunting?

sthitch · 08/09/2017 15:55

@alnman I am the same - terrified of needles , csection, giving birth in general... I wanted a baby but also felt relieved every month I wasn't because I was so scared.

I'm now 41 weeks pregnant! I've got through every needle, (which weren't many and I also had to have a large one for my blood type- thank god I didn't know about it before I got pregnant.. it wasn't even bad but had I have known!) I've been doing pregnancy yoga to give some positions to help in labour and some breathing techniques to keep me calm... this has all helped to have a calm pregnancy where I have constantly reminded myself that there's no point wasting energy worrying as this HAS to happen.

I'm now at the point where I'll probably be induced which is not what I wanted at all but I'm still trying to keep the calmness and know that I have to go with the flow...I'm also having a larger baby which was not expected as I'm tiny... all of this would have 100% put me off but I'm so glad I'm here at this point and didn't let a fear dictate my life. Hopefully I can come back in a week with a good birthing story but all I will say is you're pregnant for such a long time that you HAVE to keep calm and not panic because it makes for a much better pregnancy and its hopefully one day of your life. I got through every appointment and every needle and I think there's another one out of the way, it's not forever. Good luck!

user1483291956 · 20/09/2017 23:28

Sthitch, I really hope all goes well for you. You are so brave for getting to this point.

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Catinthecorner · 21/09/2017 00:27

Can I recommend the blogger Forever Amber. She's mostly a life and style blogger but is now pregnant and blogging about her experience of pregnancy and tokophobia.

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