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Caesarians are bad - Michel Odent now

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Welshmum · 23/03/2004 10:47

He's about to do an interview on BBC radio 5Live (11am Tuesday) about elective c-sections inflicting babies with 'an impaired capacity for happiness'. Should be interesting....

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tamum · 24/03/2004 22:24

I just looked him up on Pubmed, you're quite right katzguk. He has published lots of opinion pieces in the Lancet, of one page. I could only find one actual paper, as opposed to a comment. Comments in the Lancet are very rarely peer-reviewed, and certainly weren't peer reviewed at all until a few years ago.

katzguk · 24/03/2004 22:30

glad someone agrees with me on the science front - good research is important but bad research is very damaging fro those of us who produce good stuff - often it's only the bad and dangerously contraversal work that gets in the public eye and hence continues to get funding, whilst other very important work gets passed by the wayside for frankly unuseful work like this. I mean having been faced with the choice of either using a synthetic hormone or not having a healthy baby, there was no choice. I felt quilty afterwards and felt like i wasn't a proper mum 'cause i needed help. To have someone says that this might have damaged my child in th longer adds to the guilt already present.

sorry about the rant but bad science makes me cross!!

katzguk · 24/03/2004 22:32

sorry should say damaged in the long run

tamum · 24/03/2004 22:32

Oh me too, you're not alone by any means as you'll have seen on here already. What field are you in?

eddm · 24/03/2004 22:44

Offtopic, but hey Mears, how are you? Feeling any better?

katzguk · 24/03/2004 22:53

i work in a field known as biomaterials, i'm researching a cement for gluing bones together and can also be used to fill holes in bone.

Ghosty · 25/03/2004 01:40

This is all I know on the matter ...
Was in labour for 3 days with DS (ended in emergency c/s) ... therefore lots of oxitocin I expect ... did not bond with him ...
No labour with DD ... (failed induction ending in c/s) ... bonded with her within a nano second of her arrival ...
So .. what's that all about ...
Very impressed with Pupuce's brave fight (I wondered where you were when this thread started!) but I do not agree with this vaginal birth = happy child vs c/section = unhappy child ... I just can't agree with it because as both of my children were delivered by c/s then they are doomed aren't they?

Oh ... and,
'Note to Self: Remind 7 week old DD when she is bigger that she can't be a midwife when she grows up as she was born by caesarean section .... '
I mean, WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT??

dinosaur · 26/03/2004 16:31

Did you see that there was a really good article in G2 today - pointing out that Caesareans save lives - mothers and babies - it is called "Too realistic to push"

Croak · 26/03/2004 18:05

Thanks for pointing that article out Dinosaur - I so agree with her about how we fetishise birth to a ridiculous extent nowadays. Was so glad to read on your other thread that your scare was just a false alarm and that baby dinosaur is safe and well btw. Hope your placenta moves out the way to

Croak · 26/03/2004 18:05

too, sorry.

Janh · 26/03/2004 18:35

To be fair, I don't think anybody makes you feel a failure - when I was told I would have to have a section for dd1 everybody was very matter-of-fact, it's the best thing to do kind of thing, but I still burst into tears and felt bereft - that came from within. (I cheered up after she arrived though and never felt I had to apologise.)

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