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Childbirth

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Has anyone had a "natural" caesarian?

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DollyP · 12/07/2006 20:05

Hello

Just inquiring for a friend really. She is pg with twins, has SPD and has had a C section suggested by the consultant. She has a son who will be 2 when DTs are born, and he was born at home with just gas and air.

She is not sure what to do and I said that I had read about "natural" C sections (can't remember where though!) - where the lights are dimmed on delivery, everyone is quiet so the first voice DB hears is his mother's, baby delivered onto tummy etc. Does anyone have any experience of this? I had a very positive (emergency) C section and have tried to reassure her, but it would be great if I could get some info about this other type of section.

Many thanks

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southeastastra · 12/07/2006 20:06

weird, wouldn't it be a bit dangerous in the dark

waterfalls · 12/07/2006 20:07

I had SPD, when pregnant with DTs, but they refused a Csection, but as it turned out dt2 had to be delivered by emergency Csection, dt1 was delivered vaginally

zippitippitoes · 12/07/2006 20:11

there are some ideas here

NotQuiteCockney · 12/07/2006 20:15

Hmm, my first section was an elective, and my second was an "emergency" (not crash, nowhere near). I think my second was more "natural", as at least DS2 was ready to come out, and the waters broke etc. If they're going to come out the sunroof, best to let them get nice and fat before they come out, anyway. So I'd think that not having an elective, but just having a section when signs of labour are evident, would be better. (I had no contractions, though, so no impediment to the epidural.)

ghosty · 12/07/2006 20:27

My cs with DD was lovely and as natural as it could be I think.
Not an elective but not an emergency either ... lovely calm op room, during the day so no scary call outs of sleeping doctors, nice music, and lovely chatty atmosphere. The best bit was that there was no screen. DH could see right in (a bit of an eeeeeeeeeeuuuuwwwwwwww factor there) and I saw DD come out of my body which didn't happen with DS and I felt for a long time that I had just been handed a baby rather than MY baby.
She couldn't be delivered onto my tummy - but she was brought to me immediately after they had checked her over. She was on the breast within 2 minutes of me being stitched up so that would be 15 minutes max. after birth.

LeahE · 12/07/2006 20:51

It's one of the consultants at Chelsea and Westminster who does the "natural" c-sections that have been in the media. I vaguely assume only for private patients but I'm not sure (articles seemed to fudge that point).

Asur · 13/07/2006 13:11

there is a MNetter who has had this only a few weeks ago.. can't remember who but it was mentioned on Flum's thread on whether to try VBAC or have elective cs... if i have time, i'll try to do a search..

Asur · 13/07/2006 13:17

ok, was quicker/easier to find than I thought.. Ladyoracle had naural cs on 12th June... here's an article about the procedure - sounds nice

LeahE · 13/07/2006 13:59

Ooops -- Queen Charlotte's, not C&W.

mammaduck · 13/07/2006 14:00

"We know of one woman who was helped by her surgeon to lift her baby out herself."

Brave woman! I had an emergency c-section, and whilst this obviously suits some people, personally I don't think I could cope with seeing my own innards. My baby was placed on my chest really soon after being born and b/feeding happened quite soon after that (once I'd been stitched up).

mears · 13/07/2006 23:31

I am not sure a 'natural C/S' could be achieved with a twin delivery TBH. Caesarean isn't usually necessary for twins unless first one is breech, and neither is it necessay for SPD. Perhaps she needs to discuss further with consultant.

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DollyP · 15/07/2006 11:23

Thanks for the ideas everyone.

Mears, she wass told it would be even more difficult to push with SPD, is this not the case? She is also being guided towards a c section as they are worried about the second twin after the first has been born. They are identical BTW.

Thanks all.

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sparklemagic · 15/07/2006 11:42

what a lovely idea, it sounds as if this way of doing things is actually based around the baby and mother rather than it being completely given over to clinical procedure!

My CS was a crash section unfortunately due to distress of my DS so I'm aware it wouldn't have applied in my case. But for more routine CS, this sounds SO the way to go.

mears · 16/07/2006 22:25

You can still push with SPD. Care has to be taken when an epidural is used that the knees are not encouraged to go wider than they would normally go without numbing effect of epidural. You do this by measuring the distnace they canm go priot to epidural going in.

There are differing views about twins being delivered by C/S. Your friend should research it and talk to medices about her own circumstances. SPD takes a slong to recover after C/S as it can after vaginal birth. Can be worse using crutches after C/S. And also need to consider toddler.

Elibean · 17/07/2006 18:32

I heard it was Professor Fisk at Queen Charlotte's who did the 'natural' sections...I didn't have one there, but found that my OB at Chelsea and Westminster was happy to go along with requests about quiet music, baby straight to me, etc as long as there was no medical emergency. Mine wasn't an elective, either - though no real panic involved.

Elibean · 17/07/2006 18:33

ps Fisk 'specializes' in twins, too.

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DollyP · 17/07/2006 19:33

Thanks for all these ideas, I'll pass them on .

Mears, if our paths dont' cross on another thread before then, all the best for Wednesday. Will be thinking of you. XX

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