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Baby jaundice after giving birth

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Stepmooster · 12/11/2013 10:58

Hi, I recently had my second child and both of my babies were admitted to neonatal unit within a week of birth for phototherapy as they had really bad jaundice.

I wanted to post in childbirth because for me i was so wrapped up in the giving birth I never contemplated that just a few days after I would be dealing with jaundice and I just wish someone had told me about it. So here is my experience so you know what it is like to be in hospital with your little one under the lights when you thought you would be at home enjoying your bundle of joy. I felt very alone at the time and knew no one who had been through it.

I blamed myself so much for failing to get both babies to breastfeed enough to clear the billirubin from their blood but after DC2 was born I asked a lot of questions as to why both my children were jaundiced.

Apparently it is really common for breastfed babies to become jaundiced, most just get monitored at home but with my two, we were discharged from hospital and then sent back again within days.

My daughter (DC1) became so ill she was just giving up on feeding, and they had to force formula down her nose in a tube. It was awful, I had been sat waiting for doctors to see her on the ward that she had started to turn floppy. I really had to push for them to see her and not ignore her missing a feed. You hear so much that babies that are breastfed should feed on demand but with jaundice babies it really is every 3 hours from the start of a feed. If your baby is not meeting the 3 hours you have to try and wake them up (not very easy).

I was told by a very experienced midwife who they sent out to my home when DC2 was jaundiced that nearly all babies born earlyish (mine 36 DC2 and 37 DC1) that are breastfed develop jaundice and really it is down to their immature liver and nothing to do with the mother's attempts at breasfeeding. I was getting quite tearful because I felt like a complete failure, as I had been managing the 3 hourly feeds with DC2 I was hoping to avoid hospital. The midwife assured me that the biggest factor in whether a baby will end up with jaundice is having a jaundiced sibling. She was adamant that I could not prevent the jaundice, unless I wanted to formula feed. However she, the hospital, other midwives and health visitors were so supportive of me continuing to breasfeed that they did not recommend I give up breasfeeding and told me that once light treatment had finished the babies would be fine. AND THEY REALLY ARE FINE, HEALTHY CHILDREN.

If you end up back in hospital as a blubbering wreck, feeling like a failure, feeling like your stupid milk/boobs just wont work please take heart you can still go on to breasfeed your baby if you want to. I have to be honest the temptation to formula feed was really swaying me with both children and DH was inisisting with DC1 that I should. The hopsital had other ideas! I was given a breastpump and bottles, and they helped me wake every 3 hours to express milk for the babies and this was fed through a tube or bottle to the babies. If you dont make enough milk they top up with formula.

It is pretty exhausting, because you have to express/change baby/feed baby probably via tube and not bottle and then find time to eat drink and sleep. Also you have only just given birth and you are probably still trying to get over that too. They monitor the babies billirubin from blood samples, so be prepared for lots of needle pricks in the babies feet and hands. I cried every time they did this so had to sit outside.

With DC1 she really struggled with breastfeeding and she was very poorly and required longer phototherapy, in order to maintain breastfeeding when she was discharged I used a nipple shield as a temporary measure. They had us stay in an extra night to properly monitor the breastfeeding, I actually feel like they should give this kind of support to every new mother. DC1's jaundice cleared up in 2 weeks.

With DC2 he was not as bad, he wouldn't keep still under the lights and kept pulling his feeding tube out of his nose and removing his eye mask. He wouldn't take a dummy in order to settle so they used a lot of tape on his face and it left horrible sore marks. His jaundice took over 6 weeks to clear and we had to go back for more tests in case it wasnt straight forward jaundice but a liver problem. It wasn't, he just wasn't as regular with his stools (its how the billirubin leaves the system) and he was finally discharged still looking like he had a suntan.

Both my babies had to have formula on top of my expressed milk, and after we were discharged they soon fed like crazy to bring my supply up. So if you are worrying that you are not making enough milk it can be overcome. Your GP can give you some tablets to help increase milk supply, I had these with DC1 and they worked fine.

Anyway I hope this helps any new mums wanting to breastfeed but faced with jaundice.

On the flip side it is ok to admit defeat and switch to formula, I was lucky that my births were fairly straight forward, both over in 5 hours and therefore I had reserves to get me through some pretty tough days of little sleep. I know not all NHS Trusts are as good at helping with breastfeeding as mine is. Really if the support wasnt there for me and they weren't so bossy in making me continue I would have gone on to formula feed (I lost count of how much breastfeeding support I was given with DC1). No point making yourself ill trying to breastfeed and refusing to formula feed. Baby jaundice with DC1 made me very depressed and I had no confidence in my abilities as a mother. It took months to feel like I was a good mother.

I also know that if I have anymore children then there is a strong chance they will require phototherapy too, and I am not going to beat myself up about it and I will prepare in advance for a long hospital stay in the first week of their life.

Finally here is a hug Thanks to anyone currently in hospital with a jaundiced baby. I read mumsnet when in hospital in order to take my mind off the jaundice and keep me sane. If anyone wants to ask me anything about my jaundice experiences feel free to ask.

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OneLittleToddleTerror · 12/11/2013 11:07

I hope you are feeling better after the rant.

My DD was also born slightly early at 37 weeks, breastfed, and went back into the hospital at 5 days for jaundice. It was a heart wrenching experience.

However, I didn't blame myself for causing the jaundice. I persisted with breastfeeding (by pumping) while my DD stayed in hospital. I couldn't remember for how long she stayed in the hospital, but I think it was for a week. DD was EBF until we gave up at around 18mo.

Don't blame yourself for being a bad mother. You are trying to do your best for your little ones. By the way, mine had gain back her birth weight and more before readmission, so it wasn't because she wasn't feeding enough. I think just being early (and also my water broke 2 days before her birth) was enough risk factor for her severe jaundice.

If I have the good fortune to have another baby again, I will know how to look for jaundice.

Stepmooster · 12/11/2013 11:22

Hi OneLittleToddleTerror yes I am feeling a lot better, and really that is why I posted because it is so easy to blame yourself. It was in the back of my mind what to expect with jaundice with DC2, but knowing what I know now I should have been expecting it to happen and not hoping it wouldn't.

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CrispyFB · 13/11/2013 11:01

Thank you for sharing! It was touch and go with DC2 (35+5) and her reading was 0.1 under the amount required for phototherapy. She did have low blood sugar though, so she required supplementing for that reason. I was very lucky that we were at Kings College hospital which has a milk bank and because I was so passionate about breastfeeding they were happy to let me have donor milk. I won't be so lucky next time as I no longer live near a hospital with a milk bank, so I am very much hoping either jaundice or blood sugar does not become an issue!

CrispyFB · 13/11/2013 11:02

PS - meant to add - sounds like you have been through a lot! Hats off to you for coping with it all Smile

Hawkmoth · 13/11/2013 11:07

My first two were hospitalised for jaundice and it was horrible for me. DS also had a cord infection requiring IV antibiotics and that scared the shit out of me.

It was heartbreaking with DD under the lights and I wasn't allowed to feed on demand, so when DS was to be admitted I made them arrange for a Biliblanket (sp?) which they put on the body inside the nappy at the back, with lights on as well. This meant that I could hold and feed him as required, without him missing out on the lights. And without baby being left to scream like with DD. I will never forget the fuckwit midwife telling me that she wouldn't remember. Well I remember, and I'm tearing up now to think about it.

Thankfully my third wasn't jaundiced at all, but she was a hefty bugger compared to the first two.

Hawkmoth · 13/11/2013 11:08

Oh and I got threatened with social services and a psych assessment because I didn't want to give formula. Bastards.

OneLittleToddleTerror · 13/11/2013 12:40

hawkmoth I know what you mean. I was shocked how much the doctors pushed formula, when supposedly NHS is all for 'breast is best'. But in reality, it's not the case when DD was admitted to hospital. (First was at birth for jaundice, and second time at 7mo for bronchiolitis). They were very very pro formula.

My DD was left to scream as well on admission because they wouldn't allow me to feed her. They said they need to get her under the lights asap. That turned out to be 30min. I could have comforted her and I felt so so upset looking at her suffer. DD wasn't fed on the breast while under the lights. She's tube fed with formula and expressed breast milk.

The whole experience was very traumatic. Especially after spending 3 days in hospital for her labour too. (I wasn't assigned a midwife despite my water broke. They wouldn't examine me because they don't want to declare me in labour. It was very very traumatic).

CrispyFB · 13/11/2013 22:34

Yes, they certainly DO push formula! When I got the donor milk it was only because an individual midwife took pity on me and told me that really I shouldn't be getting it as it should be for sicker babies, but she could see (from my stories of extended BF DC1) how important it was to me and she knew there was enough available, so she authorised it. All the other midwives had told me she had to have formula (I was threatened that she might have brain damage if I didn't, which I later found out at the levels she was at was just not true plus there was a vague threat of forcing me to legally) and I was not very happy.

Even when I was given donor milk, she still ended up with one cupful of formula which I am still angry about (it's the principle, really) Basically it was 2am, I went to the fridge, found the small bottle of milk with my name on it. Seriously behind on sleep at this point (of course) I was a bit unsure as to whether it really was donor milk or formula, having had zero experience with formula before. So I asked a midwife.. the only one on duty and who had previously told me to "pull myself together" when I'd been in tears the previous day (even though my dad had recently died suddenly and I'd spent four months on strict bedrest expecting to lose DD after having surgery at 18 weeks plus loads more other stuff too).

Aaaaanyhow, she said it was donor milk of course, so I fed some of it to DD. I still wasn't sure, so I stopped. The next morning I asked another midwife and she told me that it was formula and I was so upset and told her that I had been assured it was donor milk. They launched an "investigation" which revealed that they had made up formula bottles and labelled them anyway for me, despite knowing baby was absolutely 100% donor milk only which had been made clear to everyone. They admitted they were at fault (although the nasty midwife denied ever saying it wasn't formula) but nobody really apologised except for the nice midwife who got me the real donor milk and was the only one whose fault it wasn't!

Obviously it probably did her no harm, but it's not really the point - I was being bullied/emotionally blackmailed into feeding formula, and when I found a way round it, they effectively tricked me into giving it to her then lied about it afterwards. Beats me as to their motivations though.

I wish I hadn't been so exhausted as I would have made a more formal complaint but I was so relieved to have DD alive after such a stressful time of it, then we were burgled just after we got home (2008 sucked so bad!) and I ended up with PND that I just never had the energy. Still makes me mad though. I think this is probably the first time I've ever written about it publicly so I apologise for the essay but feel good about getting it off my chest!

This was Kings College - I will happily name and shame. Such a pity as their fetal medicine centre is truly amazing but the postnatal ward was horrific mostly thanks to a minority of horrible midwives with a formula agenda.

BabyHaribo · 14/11/2013 14:36

Thank you so much for sharing!

I had a similar experience with DS. Born at 37 weeks, ventouse delivery very sleepy wouldn't feed and ended up needing phototherapy. It was an awful experience as he screamed and screamed whilst under the lights. I also felt lots of people said 'oh it's just a bit of jaundice' But at the time to me it was a huge deal!

I really blamed myself as I had a epidural which probably contributed to needing ventouse. DS head was very bruised and sore and they told me this made the jaundice worse. I also felt at fault because I couldn't feed properly.

I ended up breast feeding successfully and we were discharged after a week.

I didn't know about early babies have immature livers. I am currently 5weeks pregnant with DC2 so will be on the lookout for the jaundice again if its likely to happen in siblings.

OneLittleToddleTerror · 14/11/2013 18:58

babyharibo I'm sure you know it's not the epidural. Mine was also 37 weeks. I was told PROM (premature rupture of membrane, i.e. water broke early) was also a significant factor.

FWIW, I did the whole labour without any pain relief. Not even gas and air. I still ended up with a ventouse and episiotomy. Take the epidural this time again if you need it.

Stepmooster · 15/11/2013 13:47

Hi Ladies, it's nice to hear we are a not alone and it does seem that the standard of care you receive very much boils down to who is your midwife/nurse etc.

OneLittleToddleTerror - I can't believe you went through labour with no pain relief, I had to have gas and air. Yes I can remember them faffing with DC2 he was screaming for food and they didn't seem bothered, i was aching to feed him, but he had his tube in and I they were dithering (IMO) before they put my milk into his tummy. I got them to show me how to do it next time around.

What i also found annoying was the amount of times they took blood from his feet and then it clotted and they couldnt get a result. I just wish they went straight to the hand each time. I hated watching them squeeze out the blood as he cried his heart out. But it wasnt until he had his last blood test by a different person that they said he never liked doing it from their feet as he doesnt like to put them through it if it clots.

CrispyFB - you certainly had a rum time of it hopefully everything is all good now.

Hawkmoth - Oh I will have my fingers crossed that if we have DC3 that the jaundice won't happen, but I am going to assume it will so I won't be taken by surprise (or a ride).

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Hawkmoth · 15/11/2013 14:14

I thought it would too! I didn't have high blood pressure though and so she was bigger and stronger. I asked the MWs to come in on day 2 to check for jaundice so I could nip it in the bud before hospitalisation. I did so much reading on the guidelines and prevention beforehand that I think I would have been prepared for going in and it wouldn't have been as heartbreaking.

I really think the only difference was birthweight because she lost weight, my milk supply was delayed due to illness but she was fine.

CrispyFB · 15/11/2013 15:01

Stepmooster - yep, everything is fine now, thank you!! DD is five years old (today, in fact!) and only stopped breastfeeding, uhh, Blush probably a month or so ago. So it did no harm to that relationship!!

It's been on my mind again because I'm due with DC4 in March.

Thewhitelady · 15/11/2013 15:23

Just wanted to thank you all for sharing, DD was 37 weeks and we did end up in hospital for a week, with similar experiences to the ones you describe. I never really understood what went wrong initially but now all the dots are joining!
We were very lucky since everyone was incredibly pro breastfeeding and helped us a lot to get started. It was very exhausting and so different from what I had imagined, but they took the best possible care of us. Now, I just wish the people on the postnatal ward and my GP were at the same level on breastfeeding support...

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