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The different categories of c section, can anyone explain?

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MamaPingu · 11/11/2013 10:25

I had an emergency c section early in September and later read my notes to realise it was a category 1. It also said "immediate threat to the life of mother or foetus".

I was wondering if you could tell me with some detail about each category of c section?
Eg. How long to get the baby delivered?
It broke my heart when I realised he was at such risk and still upsets me when I think about how I could have potentially lost him! I think it'd help me to know more about the categories to help me understand better

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MamaPingu · 15/11/2013 19:52

Duchesse - that is very sad and I'm sorry you feel that way about your little girl. I really hope that feeling goes away soon Sad

FurryWall - thankyou very much for your post it has actually made me feel a lot better. Once I realised I felt a little detached it made sense about how I'd been feeling and acting since he was born. It is a relief for myself that women having natural births can feel the same way because it feels more normal to me. I was concerned lasting damage had been done from having a c section and it's a relief that that's unlikely! I do feel like I've started loving him a lot more since I've been talking about this and learning about it, I feel like a weight has been lifted.
You do imagine birth to be like in the films don't you? That's what I felt like I'd missed out on!

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ivykaty44 · 15/11/2013 20:00

It's strange cause at the time I was relatively relaxed and accepting of what was happening

this isn't strange, your mind and body are set to respond in this way, as if you panic it would cause more problems for you (and your baby)

Congratulations on the birth of your baby boy

tweetytwat · 15/11/2013 20:07

I had a Cat 1 with DD. It was the most horrific experience I have ever had.

And it was avoidable.

I also felt like it could have been anyone's baby, neither me nor DH saw the birth. I mean, I sort of knew she must be mine but I didn't know she was mine.

It did gradually get easier to cope with over time. I paid an IM to go through my notes with me and it was the best £50 I ever spent, I needed to ask lots of questions around all the decisions that led us down that path. I cried and sobbed over it for many months afterwards, kept remembering things, kind of flashbacks. It was very traumatising.

I am fairly at peace with it now. But I am still quite bitter TBH. The next worth was fairly shit but most standards but a walk in the park compared to the first but I was so much wiser and frankly I was a nightmare patient but I didn't give a shit, I was making sure we didn't get the same outcome that time - and it was significantly better.

VerySmallSqueak · 15/11/2013 20:24

I have,like a poster upthread,only just realised from this thread that my DD1 (9) was a Cat 1 (immediately to theatre and GA,no messing about).

I think if I had been aware of the differing categories at the time I would have felt more shocked,so I think I was better off only having the knowledge that it was an emergency of some sort.I did know there was foetal distress and her heart rate had been dropping.I kind of felt like a fly on the wall.

I wouldn't have chosen the birth I had but time has passed and I'm so grateful now to have been in a position where such emergency action could be taken,and so grateful that all turned out well.I now can look back and be glad that my DH had such a bonding experience looking after her while I was getting over the GA,so although I felt a little bit like I'd missed out,I knew she hadn't.

Congratulations MamaPingu.

Strokethefurrywall · 15/11/2013 20:26

Yes, that really bugged me about the movies! I never thought the birth would be all dramatic like in the films (did hypnobirthing so the exact opposite) but I really thought I would have this incredible rush of love and was so surprised when all I could drum up from the recesses of my brain was "Huh. It's a baby..."

The lack of "feeling" is 100% normal and that seems to hold true if you had a completely easy, short, pain-relief free birth (mine) or if you have a longer with pain relief birth (my friend's) so short, long, somewhere in the middle, or section, it seems the default emotion for many new mothers is "detached" and I really really wished someone would tell mothers-to-be this and not to worry and that the love comes later.

My theory is that it all has to do with your entire body going into shock and it's totally self-preservation that your mind doesn't connect emotionally with your body. Similarly when you're in a life or death situation, you don't really have time to think with your emotions, you just react on instinct and adrenaline. Same thing happens when you have a baby (in terms of the amount of adrenaline kicking about the body) - until that adrenaline and shock dies down and leaves the body, it is hard to connect yourself emotionally.

But that love, that all consuming, overwhelming love does come for most. For me, I think it came when I had just finished nursing him and he stopped and looked at me and smiled (so was probably around 2 months or a little older). And I had no words to articulate how I felt at that point.

MamaPingu · 15/11/2013 23:55

I think what's made me feel a LOT better is I've realised he does need me Smile
Since a week or two ago he seems to have fallen in love with me. He stares at me constantly and gets so giddy when I go over to him! He doesn't do it with other people, they have to work hard to get smiles off him Grin tbh they have to work hard to get him to even look at them when I'm there!!

It's made me feel like not anyone could take him and care for him like I used to feel, he wants me and it makes me feel very happy and like a proper mummy Smile

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ShowOfBloodyStumps · 16/11/2013 19:46

MamaPingu, you wait until he's older and can articulate his feelings.

I felt so guilty and detached and in a lot of ways nobody could tell me that it was okay, that I hadn't let my baby down, that my body wasn't absolutely rubbish at this thing that was supposed to be natural. Then the strangest thing happened. DD grew up. She started to ask questions about the day she was born and the things she asked about weren't what I expected. She would ask for the story of how she pooed on the nurse or what did she look like and did I cry and can she see the hat put on her and a million questions besides. I realised a couple of things quite quickly. There were two people there that day. Birth wasn't a choice I made, it was a path decided by luck and the circumstances of the two people there. It didn't matter that I knew about hypnobirthing, that I had wanted a different path, that I hadn't managed a vaginal birth because it wasn't just about me. It was also about the baby I had and for whatever reason, that baby couldn't get through the normal way and actually wasn't it just a bit brilliant that modern medicine had an alternative? And because I'd focussed so much on me and what I had or hadn't achieved, it took the other person who had been there that day finding sheer delight and amusement in the little details of the day for me to see what it really was. It wasn't a cs. That was just an incidental fact. It was day one. It was the day we met. It was a story of the day I became a Mum and dd became her own separate entity. And retelling the story to her, making her laugh and sharing my memories, I started to reframe the whole day in my mind. I realised that dd didn't blame me. She hadn't suffered. She had lived and she was there asking me these questions about a marvellous and monumental day.

Time is a great healer, as is perspective. I so desperately wish that I could give birth vaginally but I know realistically that this is meaningless as wishes go. Because a vaginal birth can be a traumatic experience too, it has its own difficulties, its own permutations and what is it I actually want out of birth? A baby. And I achieved that bit. The other stuff outside of the healthy baby is very important and nobody should tell you that you can't be affected or traumatised but I can tell you that what you wish you didn't have is the feelings of trauma. Those feelings of trauma aren't caused by having a cs, people with ventouse or forceps or natural deliveries have them too. Once you've acknowledged it for what it is, you start to move on.

Don't forget too that you've had major surgery which makes feelings of fatigue and detachment and otherworldliness that much more intense. You're healing physically and emotionally and sometimes you just shut down a bit.

Silly films. It's all just rubbish really.

GoodtoBetter · 16/11/2013 19:59

Show that is possibly the most beautifully eloquent post I have ever read on here.
Thank you.

Sunshineonsea · 16/11/2013 20:59

I have just checked my notes and there is nothing on there about the type of section
It was an emergency but I had already had an epidural, I can't remember much after the epidural but DH says I was taken to theatre about 15 mins after signing the consent form
I too didn't get that instant rush of love but he's 4 now and I am absolutely besotted with him Smile

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MamaPingu · 17/11/2013 00:33

Stumps that was absolutely beautiful and I am so happy you posted that, it has made me so happy and feel wonderful about everything SmileEnvy

I can't wait to tell my little boy all about it when he's older. You're right in that what you want out of it is a baby and I'm absolutely blessed he is so healthy and that modern medicine allowed him to live! He would most likely have died as his heart rate was if I was about to give birth but was only 2cm. I am blessed I truly am Smile

Thankyou so much x

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