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Birthing pool questions

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Laura032004 · 16/05/2006 12:20

I am hoping to have a waterbirth, or at least use a pool during labour. It will hopefully be a homebirth, so I am looking at the inflatable pools.

The main choice seems to be between the MIW and BPIAB pools. Is there any real difference? Would anybody recommend one over the other?

Are the bottoms of the pools padded / inflatable, or do you need to put something under the pool for cushioning?

Do you need all of the extras:
15 metre filling hose
Multi-purpose and round tap adapters
Foil-backed floating heat retention cover
Floating thermometer
Plastic ground sheet (2x3 metres)
Plastic step to aid entry and exit from pool
Water strainer

What did you use to empty the pool? Options seem to be: Drill-powered water pump, Submersible electric water pump or hand.

Any other hints and tips gratefully received! Thanks :)

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SoupDragon · 16/05/2006 12:38

I had a BPIAB. The floor of it was inflatable so nicely cushioned.

You do need a filling hose and tap adaptor. obviously you can get them from wherever you like.
The cover is good - I had it folded over half of it whilst I was in the pool (MW whipped it off when delivery was imminent)
groundsheet - you can get plastic dust sheets from B&Q cheaply
Step - if you have long legs this isn't necessary and you can get a child's step from anywhere or, indeed, use this one when your child needs one!
Water strainer - it's a mesh seive. again, you can get one anywhere.
Themometer - useful although you can feel if it's too hot or cold tbh.

You need to weigh it up. I got them simply because it meant I didn't have to search around for them.

Emptying it? Just left it syphoning out using the filling hose!! We had it shut away in a separate room though.

Laura032004 · 16/05/2006 21:13

Thanks for that SoupDragon. I thought the base must be cushioned. Anybody know if the MIW one is as well?

Pleased to know you can empty by syphoning out. Did it take very long?

What about inflating? Did you do it by hand, or buy the electric pump? We've got a couple of electric pumps for our airbeds, so I'm hoping that one of those might do the job. Does it take much longer than a paddling pool to do by hand?

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BabiesEverywhere · 19/07/2006 12:33

Yes, the MIW pool has a padded inflatable floor.

I'm trying the MIW pool, as I was put off by the colourful fish on the other brand but I've not actually tried it yet...EDD 12th August 06

MissChief · 19/07/2006 12:46

have you also looked at the Active Birth Centre? they were the pioneers of waterbirths in the Uk and think they're the most sorted of suppliers i looked at - give you everything you need and ragne of pools to choose from. used them both times. HTH

agalch · 19/07/2006 13:24

I am due Sunday and have my MIW pool up and have been in a few times for practice runs.Takes 5 mins with the electric pump to inflate.
Takes 35/45 mins to fill with the hose.
I have a floating thermomoter,just cos we can stick it in the pool and have a look now and again.
I am gonna use my dd step stool to get in and out.
mw brought a big plastic sheet for underneath but you can grt plastic sheeting from diy places.
Just use a normal sieve for scooping out the pool.
The tap adaptors from MIW didn't fit our taps.Dp has a better way now he says of filling the pool,he uses the submersible water pump to fill and drain and its dead easy.
HTH

sarahlou1uk · 19/07/2006 14:23

Hi. I've got a MIW one because it is slightly smaller than the BPIAB (fits my room better!). It's currently inflated and residing in the nursery. I've been in it already and it took 15 mins to fill. I would say you definately need the filing hose - don't get a hosepipe from b&q or somewhere like that as they are made with chemicals. I bought the extra kit with the pool which contained filling hose, tap connector & electric pump. As others have said, you can use any old sieve, buy a cheap floating bath thermometer off ebay (I got one for 99p) and use cheap shower curtains from ASDA (47p) as sheets under it. I haven't bothered with a step as I can get in and out quite easily. Didn't see the point of heat cover as I only plan to fill it when I am in labour.

sarahlou1uk · 19/07/2006 14:24

Forgot to say, we had a spare pond pump that we used to pump out the water ( after thoroughly cleaning it and leaving it to pump Milton through for a couple of hours!) It only took 10 minutes to pump it back out of the hose!

JoQ · 15/08/2006 17:21

Hi! We've gone for BPIAB (due 19th Aug) and we did get extra kit (cos couldn't be bothered shopping around). Hired the £25 electric pump for emptying as my midwife said key thing in unlikely event of emergency is being able to empty pool quickly (think it takes about 12 mins on standard sized pool with pump?)

One thing on protecting floors: not all shower curtains waterproof! After looking at www.waterbirth.org we also got some of that cloth-backed plastic tablecloth stuff (a couple of quid a meter from shops) cos it apparently grips the floor and isn't slippy to stand on (if you lay it plastic side down).

Though pool bottom padded it still feels bit hard as we've got laminate floor underneath. But then hospital pool is hard anyway and I didn't notice that last time!

Good luck!

JoQ · 15/08/2006 17:24

Sorry, the website I looked at was www.homebirth.org.uk/ ... has a lot of stuff on waterbirth

velcrobott · 15/08/2006 17:37

I am 5'10" and am looking at those pools too... anyone as tall or taller used either ? I am due in November.
Thanks !

JoQ · 15/08/2006 18:08

I'm about that height too and though I haven't tried bpiab with water (our practice run was with cold water so wasn't too keen to climb in!) I did climb in it when it was inflated and seemed plenty big enough.

velcrobott · 15/08/2006 21:14

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velcrobott · 16/08/2006 13:05

Meant to ask if MIW is inflatable in one go.... what if it has a whole ?

velcrobott · 17/08/2006 09:32

bump

sarahlou1uk · 18/08/2006 12:43

The MIW one has two chambers to pump - one for the pool sides and one for the pool floor. You get sent a plastic repair kit with it but any bicycle repair kit will do.

noodle6 · 18/08/2006 20:35

I found an Ebay seller stocking exactly the same digital thermometer (suitable for room and bath use) sold on the MIW website for £11.50, but costs only £6.49 (inclusive of P&P) from the Ebay seller. And the seller had 5 of these available!

As for the electric submersible water pump, its easy to buy a brand new one that's powerful enough to drain water from ponds and swimming pools from any hardware or DIY store. I got a 230V 400 Watt submersible water pump from Machine Mart that costs £35 brand new! So I think renting one from BPIAB for £25 plus £10 for return postage is pretty expensive considering you don't even get to keep it afterwards. What if I want to use the pool as a paddling pool or for subsequent births later? Can't go hiring water pumps every time right?

Shopping for a food grade hose is a bit more tricky. Most caravaning supply shops sell food grade quality water hoses in varying lengths because people travelling in caravans usually need to get drinking water from taps on campsites... So if you have a caravaning supply shop near you, worth checking them out as you can choose whatever length of hose you prefer. Maybe you need something shorter than 10 metres or slightly longer than 10 metres... Hoses are charged by the metre, so I don't want to be paying more for more hose than I need. Most food grade hoses are coloured blue anyway, so that might help you when you buy a hose to make sure you're buying the right one.

Lastly, I'm not even sure if its really necessary to use a food grade hose unless you are intending to reuse the hose again for filling the birth pool for a subsequent birth... I got a reply email from Barbara Harper (the founder/director of Waterbirth International at www.waterbirth.org) when I enquired about this issue, and this was what she said :

"For the short time that you are using your hose - for one birth - personally, I don't think it matters.

If you, however, were going to reuse the hose and continue using it, I would invest in a potable drinking water hose.
We sell the good hoses and provide them in our kits as a public service.

Hope that answers your question.

--
Blessings,
Barbara
Founder/Director
Waterbirth International
www.waterbirth.org
503-673-0026 - office of WBI
503-710-7975 - cell phone
We LOVE helping women get into Hot Water!!
and have been doing it for 20 years!!
"

As for tap connectors, I find it easy and more reassuring to go to a DIY store like B&Q to look for the right one that will fit my particular tap. There have been people whose taps just don't fit the supposedly universal ones supplied by BPIAB or MIW... Lets face it, not all our taps are the same, are they? At least if I go to the store myself, I can inspect make sure I find the right one to fit my tap (and if it doesn't, I can always return it.)

As for the step stool, well... my 3.5 year old daughter uses a plastic step stool from ASDA to help her climb onto the toilet! I could use that stool to get in and out of the pool, but don't think I will need it as the height of inflatable pools are quite low anyway.

Don't think heat retention covers are necessary... as I only plan to get into the pool at 5 - 6 cms dilation, I probably won't be staying in the pool for more than 5 hours max from labour to birth...

Laura032004 · 18/08/2006 21:33

I was the OP, but sadly I didn't get my home water birth. I had to be induced due to having Strep B

Anyway, to answer my original question:

15 metre filling hose - needed this, but prob not the drinking water one?
Multi-purpose and round tap adapters - was fine for my taps
Foil-backed floating heat retention cover - didn't buy
Floating thermometer - turned out to be a cheap kids bath one
Plastic ground sheet (2x3 metres) - bought this, prob. could have got cheaper though
Plastic step to aid entry and exit from pool - would have used DS1's loo step, but could actually step into the pool quite easily
Water strainer - was a normal food sieve (the fine mesh type as you would use for rice etc)

I bought the MIW pool, and the base was padded (it blew up like the sides). I did a test-inflate (was too lazy to fill it though!), and it felt lovely to be in. Like you were in your own little world. I'd highly recommend the pool and the service from MIW. My pool and the kit is for sale if anybody is interested?

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Shivs1974 · 18/08/2006 23:14

How much are you selling your pool for?

Laura032004 · 19/08/2006 10:20

I paid £96.95 for the pool and all the accessories - make me an offer. You can email me - laura.roberts67 ( at ) ntlworld.com if you'd prefer.

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