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If you had a forceps delivery for DC1, what happened with DC2?

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JollyHockeyStick · 05/09/2012 20:02

Particularly, did you have an unassisted delivery with DC2?

How long was your pushing stage?

I have some decisions to make for birth of DC2 and it'd be really useful for me to hear your experiences.

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libbyssister · 05/09/2012 20:56

Forceps delivery for DS1 (no epidural, had flashbacks for months afterwards). So keen to have a different and better time of it with DS2. Was gutted when he was breech, but had a successful ECV and delivered him in a MLC in water without assistance. It was a lovely birth.

Then DS3 was back to being an assisted delivery, ventouse this time after I shouted "No WAY!" when they started talking about forceps....Hmm

Squeegle · 05/09/2012 20:56

Elective Caesarian second time after failed ventouse, forceps and 3rd degree tear first time

ELC was a pleasure and recovery a doddle- particularly compared to the first experience.

JollyHockeyStick · 05/09/2012 20:57

I demanded a debrief with a consultant post birth and the chest consultant recommended ELCS after hearing the circumstances as he doesn't want me to have to push again for any length of time.

I was fine pretty quickly afterwards by the way - the damage healed itself and my breathing was completely back to normal after a couple of weeks.

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saltnpepashere · 05/09/2012 21:05

Oh christ Jolly! Right I can see why they have recommended ELCS then! Have never heard of that happening before. Glad that you have recovered now though, must have been so scary at the time.

JollyHockeyStick · 05/09/2012 21:08

The doctors hadn't heard of it happening either! It's ridiculously uncommon.

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whattodothistime · 05/09/2012 21:09

DC1 Forceps and vacuum, followed by water birth in MLU with no problems with DC2.

jamboncru · 05/09/2012 21:19

Bloody hell jolly!!! Talk about traumatic! So glad it all worked out but I can understand why your consultant wouldn't be too keen for you to push!

I had a very nice delivery with no2 after a forceps and episiotomy first time round. Second time round did lots of yoga and breathing stuff, short labour, pushed for 20 mins ish I think, no tear or stitches. But nobody could guarantee a short pushing stage for you- yes it's likely it would be shorter and highly likely you wouldn't need an instrumental delivery this time round, but there are no guarantees and it's sensible to consider the elcs

Good luck

Trazzletoes · 05/09/2012 21:22

OMG JHS that sounds horrific! Glad you are ok. And there I was thinking I had the most random birth complication ever (detached retina from pushing) totally outs self

JollyHockeyStick · 05/09/2012 21:25

Detached retina! Eek! That sounds really painful and scary. I hope it got sorted out.

(i've also just outed myself, might have to nc now!)

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Trazzletoes · 05/09/2012 21:31

Not painful at all... Didn't notice for months. Could have gone blind easily though, which was terrifying at the time. All fixed now, but I would take that over a punctured lung and air in my skin any day!!!

Flisspaps · 05/09/2012 21:51

In your circumstances I'd be going for ELCS!

JollyHockeyStick · 05/09/2012 22:13

Glad it's fixed, Trazzle.

Fliss, I know you're right, and I know ELCS is the only sensible option, it just worries me. It being major surgery, recovering, looking after 2 after surgery, breastfeeding, not being able to drive. So I need to find out lots about the options so I'm 100% convinced I've chosen the right one.

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Trazzletoes · 05/09/2012 22:26

Well, there is no guarantee that 2nd labour will be easier, though most are... With DS the labour was more difficult because he was back to back and cord round his neck twice. There's nothing you can do to prevent that.

People I know who've had planned sections have all said that they recovered quite fast (as opposed to those who had emergency ones) and that it was a bit of a pita but fine in the grand scheme of things. I don't envy your choice though.

I'd be a candidate for a section as well due to eye and, tbh, that's a factor in not having more DCs! I'm scared of the surgery (but also no overwhelming desire to have more. Not sure what I'd do if I desperately wanted more).

lilachair · 05/09/2012 22:29

40 hours with DD1, and forceps. She was back to back and it bloody hurt.

4 hrs with DD2. Was a dream labour.

Good luck!

onebigwish · 05/09/2012 22:31

This is obviously anecdotal but I found the recovery from ELCS easier than forceps. I had two under two to look after after my ELCS as well, and it was fine. Obviously very personal though.

JollyHockeyStick · 06/09/2012 08:11

Obw, thank you. That is what I wanted to hear :)

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carrielou2007 · 06/09/2012 17:32

Forceps with dd horrid drip induction took forever 4 hours pushing back yo back and big baby.

Dreading I suction with ds, given peasant at 4pm ish, rang my sister to check how dd was moaning nothing was happening again at 4.30, screaming at 7pm for some pain relief when tutti v midwife (for making such a noise) finally examined me, only got down to labour ward as I started pushing on induction ward Grin.

Can I ask TT as I have z detatched retina, is c section recommended?? I'm dreading it will be though think must be easier than another induction!!

carrielou2007 · 06/09/2012 17:33

Gah sorry about all thd wrong autocorrects you can tell I czn'f see!! Ds wax also back to back but it wax quick at least!!

TheFallenMadonna · 06/09/2012 17:38

Forceps and PPH first time.

Unassisted, 45 min push, small PPH second time.

Lovethesea · 06/09/2012 20:47

DD stuck for hours, high rotational forceps in theatre under spinal, very traumatic birth, bladder incontinence for months and physio etc.

DS elcs to avoid second stuck baby and preserve my bladder function and pelvic floor remains. Enjoyable and recovery simple compared to former birth.

Peppapigsarse · 06/09/2012 23:02

Well I was at the hospital in crying pain only 2cm with DD1, unsympathetic mw's - after 6hrs of gas and air had first pethadine shot, then the next one however many hours later you can, had epidural and was only 4cm, wasn't told at this stage she was back to back - I was in so much pain I thought I was dying!

After next pethadine wore off I had epidural but got told off by MW for having my gas and air still my epidural wasn't working properly.....put on hormone drip, baby in distress...

My waters had broken on the Wed at 5am, this was Friday night at 8pmish....
they went back and forth for ages drip on drip off.... finally I got to 6cm...

by 11pm I was 9cm, they decided they would keep going..although they thought she might be stuck, then I was prepared for theatre for ventose twice, followed by forceps 3 times if that failed it would be a c-section.

Now I did NCT birth classes they did the whole scare you about c-sections or mine certainly did (not just me all the mums in our group felt the same way) so I didn't want to have a section... I don't remember at the hospital being told the risks of ventose or forceps...

the only thing I remember form the NCT class about ventouse is it can cause a slight cone head and nothing bad about forceps..

Well ventouse failed twice, forceps on the third and final try was successful, BUT my dd's face was very badly bruised and she suffered a cosmetic issue with her eye, it is only noticible when she is tired! We were referred by the HV to the hospital for it so its not a PFB thing! it is cosmetic and I won't be doing anything about it not unless it bothers her enough when she is older and I would avoid doing something if I can!

I do not remember anyone telling the dangers of forceps, in the NCT classes I remember their being jokes about them being big salad servers....

Not only did DD have bruising to her face she had massive blood blisters from the ventouse! Poor thing!

then the stitching i was being sewn for what felt like forever, and it was horrific driving for the first 6months if I broke suddenly I coudl feel the pull where the stitches were!

2nd time around I had an ELCS, was lovely calm, initially when pregnant I was no I'm going to do the hypno birth thing (the womans voice on the CD wound me up!) I think I was so scared about the same thing happening again, I had long discussions with my MW who was supportive in whatever direction I went, was very pro natural but understood my reservations...

Consultant agreed straight away.... when I went to see the registar at 36 weeks she tried to talk me out of it.... my hubby had to stand up for me and say no she wants the section and be quite firm about it!

I had my section it was so peaceful, if not a bit surreal! but the best decision I made for my person circumstances... I don't get the whole bull people spill about if you don't have a natural birth its not the same/natural/you don't bond....

the love for both my children is overwhelming nothing will change that all I wanted was healthy children the delivery method natural or through the sunroof doesn't matter as long as you love and cherish them!

The not driving thing for 6 weeks was the hardest for me personally, but you know what I had my shopping delivered, after 2 weeks I was able to get to the high street one way and taxi back.... we got a lot of taxi's initially much to my DD1's delight! It wasn't ideal but my recovery was quicker and less stressful than my "natural assisted birth".

Things I didn't realise - you can refuse ventouse and forceps... I went with it as I thoguht it was better to avoid a c-section and I was advised she was too far down, I think you have know in yourself what you can and can't cope with!

It is well worth going through your notes with the hospital on your last birth, makes you realise how much is going on....

good luck with you decision.

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