vaginal birth after 2 c-sections

[kimmy2912]

i had a c-section in dec 2009 with twins, then with my dd in april 2012, i wasn't getting the support for a vbac, but i regret my decision, hopefully in a couple of years i'll be pregnant again and would like to know if a vbac would be possible?

Kimmy, one of my vbacs was over 9lb, I am what most people class as very small framed, it wasn't an issue at all. I was clearly huge during that particular pg and no one batted an eye.

My Vbac was 9,8 & a half

Actually I did tear but she came face first & very quickly.
I didn't have stretch marks with her though I did with ds2 who was an undiagnosed breech hence the c-s, so I'm not convinced about that link at all.

I have had 2VBAC and it was the second VBAC that was actually a problem even though it was 4 years after my emergency section and I had had one VBAC 2.4 years after the emergency, so I would say a gap of 12 months before ttc doesn't always guarantee no issues. I was very close to rupturing and losing my baby and my own life.

My advice would be to get as fit as possible and read as much information as you can so you are informed as I was scared witless by a consultant who had never seen me before.

My first Csection was 1997
My second was in 2000
my attempt at VBAC was in 2008 which resulted in a csection after being in excruciating pain and failure to progress. It wasn't until I had the csection they found she had ruptured my old stitching, she had torn me inside

I had a great vbac 3 years after a cs for a breech baby. I was actually due to have him at home but he was premature so I went into the hospital. I refused constant monitoring and they just took mine and the baby's pulse at frequent intervals. I think they were a lot more supportive because I had already had the fight to have him at home, so knew me coming into hospital was difficult. I had decided it was better to have 2 midwives supporting me at home than just one in the hospital. We also live very close and actually got to the hospital between 2 contractions.

There is a brilliant yahoo group which you can join and there are women on there who have had a vbac after 3 or even 4 sections. They are great for giving advice on getting support from your midwives and consultants.

:( Kalskirata...
I agree that I also felt a massive failure after an EMCS (which could have been avoided altogether, but that's another story).
I had flashbacks and nightmares for months later.
Has taken me until a few months ago to even consider having another baby.
Now we have decided to go for it, nothing is happening yet...am just 41...
Wish I'd tried sooner but wasn't in a good place.
Would definitely consider a VBAC now, if I'm lucky enough to ever fall pregnant again, but mainly because the post-op after CS was very painful and long. Stopped me from really being the new mother I wanted to be. Can't imagine having another CS and having to look after a tiny NB plus a super active 4/5 y.o. - christ.
Really encouraging to hear all your success stories with VBAC - but whoever said that it may be the thing for you, but also may not work out and that the most important thing is that a healthy baby comes out, whichever way that is, is very right.

I did have serious PTSD after my first emergency section. Add to that the 'failure' guilt then having 2 more sections I ended up with PND.
My VB was textbook perfect right up until the end. And thats why I say the most important outcome is the baby is ok. It took a tragedy to make me realise that. I wish it hadnt and I wish I'd done it differently.

I don't want to change the debate, but just to say, we all handle EmCS differently, and I had two ecsecs after two full labours to 10 cm, and I have never felt like a failure. I don't feel that the births have influenced my bonding with my babies, and I have very fond and emotional memories of holding them for the first time etc. I wish I could have given birth naturally, but both times, for different reasons, it just didn't work out.

i have found a doula in my area who has supported a lady though a vbac after 2 sections, so if a ever did get pregnant again (hopefully i will) then i'll be with her :) but the most important thing is the safe arrival of the baby, and i'll much rather have the regret of never having a natrual birth then not having a repeat c-section because something went wrong

I had a VBAC, home birth after 2 cs. Very quick and better than the c-sections and much faster recovery. I did a ot of research about it, the risk of rupture is only slightly higher after 2cs than after 1. The factor that seems to increase the risk is having the third pregnancy very soon after the second CS. I would suggest you get under the wings of one of the local midwifery groups rather than directly under King's. I suggest you post on the East Dulwich Forum for more feedback on King's.

To add, to your initial question, definitely yes!

Like Blueberry the extent of the monitoring I would have had put me off..I was told "We'll only let you try for a couple of hours"

Have a read of this thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/childbirth/382996-support-for-imminent-vbacers-thread

Loads of fantastic information and links to resources quite early on in the thread, though I appreciate some of it may be a little out of date now as it was four years ago!

I am proud to say that I had a successful v-bac after two c-sections. 1st c-section was an emergency after a failure to progress during 2day induction.
2nd section was elective.

For my 3rd pregnancy I had already made up my mind to have a v-bac bu was continuously talked out of. Was told by my Midwife that I was being reckless, that I was putting my babys life at risk and that I could ultimately die because I had a high chance of Uterine rupture. To be fair she had a point as my previous section for a 2nd child was barely a year a ago! However I knew my body, I knew my capabilities and felt that I wanted to give I a try I nothing else plus I knew I would be in hospital so help would be there if things ident go o plan.
I was referred to he main hospital because I had shared care where I was seen by an alarmingly young Registrar who tried to tell me what I could and could not do! I took offence actually because I felt like she wasn't giving a choice to what I wanted. Anyway after a good half an hour she eventually decided that she needed to call the Consultant to talk me out.
I was pleasantly surprised when the Consultant decided to let me have a go as everyone else had triedo distance themselves from my decision.

Anyways nearer my due date the Consultant gave me a sweep and predicted that I would give birth in a couple of days. True to her words I started having annoying Braxton Hicks 'so I thought' around 11pm, ignored them cos I seem to be having those all the time anyway. They went on til 2am, not painful, just annoying. Eventually had enough around 2:30am and asked m partner to take me to he hospital to get checked out.
We live 10mins from hosp, by the time we got there I could hardly walk!
When I was checked out I was 3cm and out of my mind with pain!
The contractions I was being told was not letting up and were just one after the other. The Anaesthist was called and drips, catheters were inserted because hey said that the contractions were not normal. Between decisions being made and feeling as though I was being ripped inside out, someone else had a more pressing need then me so I had o wait for the c-section.

Within an hour or so of being moved to a room I felt the urge to push. After being checked I was then told I was full dilated and to push. My daughter was born 15mins later.

Would I change my decisions?

No I wouldn't because nothing can explain that feeling of an achievement when that baby is handed to you.

It's priceless

Xxx