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Really worried about consultant appointment

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steben · 06/06/2012 09:44

Hi all, some reassurance/experiences needed. I have my consultant appt next week and I am becoming increasingly anxious about it.

I suppose from some of the stuff I have read on here I really don't know what to expect. I had a fairly tough time with DD which ended in a EMCS after about 30 hours - (2 weeks overdue, failure to progress past 4cm, epidural, induction drip) - she was back to back and in a terrible position (was also a 10lb whopper) and the surgeon said when he pulled her out she would never have come out the natural way!

I want a planned CS - I don't want a VBAC and have made up my mind. However I am scared they will refuse/pressure me into VBAC etc...

I will also be attending the appointment alone as DP is away and I don't know if that will put me at a disadvantage :(

Has anyone just had a straightforward yes? Or do you always get pressured/talked out of it?

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steben · 06/06/2012 13:18

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juneau · 06/06/2012 14:29

I haven't been in this situation, but my SIL and a good friend have and I think, from what they said, that it depends on your consultant.

SIL had a horrendous time giving birth to her DD1. They both nearly died and SIL was very traumatised. She asked for a scheduled c-section the second and the third time and was granted them without any pressure being put on her to change her mind.

My friend had a slightly less stressful time with her first birth, but she was overdue, failed to progress and ended up with c-section. She wanted a scheduled one second time around, but her consultant was very anti a complete arsehole about it and persuaded her to go for a VBAC. She was initially devastated, but made the best of it and had the same situation happen second time - failure to progress (i.e. wasn't dilating, despite contractions), and so ended up with a second c-section anyway.

Do you know anything about this consultant and his/her views?

Nevercan · 06/06/2012 15:08

I had exactly the same first time experience as you with dd1. As I was overdue with dd2 I didn't want to repeat the induction experience but my consultant said what would you like to do? I opted for planned c-section which was very relaxed compared to first time round. Just be very definately about what you want and hopefully you will get the nod too Smile

Lunarlyte · 06/06/2012 20:53

I had an ELCS 7 weeks ago or DD2 and it was a hard-fought battle but I'm so glad that DH and I pushed for it. Essentially, after a long labour and long pushing phase with DD1 in 2009, I knackered my tailbone. You would never know how painful it is and how much force you exert upon it in day-to-day life until you injure it.

I won't bore you with the extraneous detail so here are the essentials:

?Met consultant at 20 weeks. Told him about my problem. He said that mode of delivery wouldn't make any difference bollocks and froglets the bejesus out of us with the worst possible outcomes of CS vs an ideal VB. He said he would support me if i wanted CS, but first wanted me to meet with a consultant midwife at 28 weeks and in the meantime, field opinions from others.

?Met with consultant midwife at 28 weeks. We talked about various birth positions thy would take the strain off my back and various pain relief. Bottom line was that VB might make my tailbone pain worse and if it did, I'd be drugged-up enough to get through te birth and then we'd deal withte pain later - not a viable option for me.

?Met with an independent chiropractor at 32 weeks who explained the snarky of my birth injury and that i stood a very high chance of hurting it and/or making it worse.

?Meanwhile, I read Cesarean Birth: a positive approach to preparation and recovery by Leigh East which contextualised te pros and cons of CS and VB (great VBAC section in there, too). Also looked at November 2011 NICE guidelines. The initial doomy CS outcomes had been overplayed.

?Met with consultant again at 35 weeks. It was a battle royale; him poo-pooing all of the research I'd done, saying I could still birth vaginally ... But my mind was made up and I held firm with DH's support. I knew the risks of CS and was prepared to take those risks. CS date booked for 39+3, given consent form to sign.

My CS went as 'Maternal Request' in the end, as it was against medical advice. My feeling is that not enough is known about my back condition for coccydynia to be a recognised reason for CS request.

Anyway, I had to jump through hoops and literally say that I knew the risks of CS and would take those risks over the risks of VB. You have to be polite but VERY FIRM, or you will be walked over. You might have an easier time of it than me, but bear in mind that VBAC is encouraged to bring CS rates down. If though, you know that you want a repeat CS, show that you know the risks and are willing to take those risks over VBAC. If you aren't beig listened to, ask to be referred to another OB, due to NICE guidelines. They might tell you they haven't taken those guidelines on yet, but I doubt you'll be denied this, lest you feel you were pushed into VBAC an something went wrong.

Best of luck!

Lunarlyte · 06/06/2012 20:57

Some truly awful type-o's there, sorry:

Froglets = frightened
Snarky = anatomy

How the heck does this iPhone make these autocorrections?!

klaxon · 06/06/2012 21:00

Hello, I had a similar situation first time around. Second time at my consultant appt I said 'I want a scheduled C section.' and the consultant whipped out his diary and asked me what time I'd like it. It was that simple. Mostly consultants are used for 'high risk' so they are happier actually if you'll just agree to a course of treatment and stick with it.

monkeymoma · 06/06/2012 21:03

Grin @ froglets
(marking place, hoping for elec cs this time)

thunksheadontable · 06/06/2012 23:19

My only advice would be not to go to the consultant appointment alone. Drag anyone supportive along with you or rearrange.

I went to a consultant appointment at 38 weeks pregnant alone to request an induction at 41 weeks (there's a thread on it, it was horrendous!) and it really nearly tipped me over the edge. I'd waited two hours to be seen and then it was really demoralising etc. If I'd had someone with me, I'd have felt so much better and less hyped up going in there and would have been better able to argue my case but I just went to jelly.

Lunarlyte · 07/06/2012 09:11

Agree with Thunks: I was nearly in tears at my 35wk appointment when he was still trying to convince me to VB. I was dog-tired arguing my case; felt very vulnerable and was glad that I had my DH there.

steben · 07/06/2012 11:40

Thanks v much for the replies everyone and those typos made my day! Had some good replies in pregnancy as well. I will report back with how I get on - really hoping for straightforward yes - dont know much about the consultant but a doc friend of mine says he is OK (plus he is actually the doc who made the dec for me to have my EMCS last time so i dont know if that will have any bearing!)

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Lunarlyte · 07/06/2012 11:47

Hmm, the less said about my type-o's, the better! I think every post I write has at least one clanger ... Maybe I ought to preview the messages before I post them! It kind of ruins the impact of what I'm trying to say!

Glad that I made you giggle, tho Grin xx

Daisybell1 · 07/06/2012 12:59

I'll be watching with interest too! Dd was born by emcs after induction, 12hrs on drip and failure to progress beyond 3cms.

I had bad postnatal depression/anxiety last time and am now 7 weeks with dc2. The only thing keeping the lid on the anxiety etc for the time being is the thought of having another section. I'm happy to go overdue, don't mind a longer cooked baby, and would be prepared to risk a speedy vbac but essentially I want a section.

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