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What's the difference between diamorphine and pethadine?

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HappyAsEyeAm · 12/03/2012 19:46

The hospital I will be delivering at doesn't offer diamorphine. The only pain relief/coping options administered are TENS, G&A, pethidine or epidural.

From my previous labour I found TENS great but only up to a point when it started to irritate me more then anything; G&A great but again only up to a point when the contractions became incredibly intense and G&A wasn't enough to help me through a 72 hour labour; and I am aware of an epidural increasing the risks of ending up with forceps/ventouse and that terrifies me.

Which leaves pethidine - and frokm what I have read about pethidine on tis forum, it seems that it is of minimal benefit in terms of pain relief for the woman, and of more benefit to the midwives in that the woman can't express the pain that she is still in.

I know that its all a balancing act, and that no labour is a walk in the park.

But what about diamorphine? What is it and what does it do? And why is it that some hospitals don't even offer it?

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capecath · 12/03/2012 21:40

Hey there, I had diamorphine, but rather late in labour. I think it did help because I don't remember the stitches hurting at all and was happily chatting to my mom on the phone :) but I think I got it too late to help with the actual labour.

What I didn't realise about taking any drugs was that there is a risk that it can affect your baby's breathing, especially if taken late in labour. Mine came out not breathing and that was really scary! They had the resus team ready anyway and he was breathing without a tube in 20 mins (he was also 7 weeks early so that prob would have affected it), but it was enough anyway to put me off wanting to use drugs again... Next time I am hoping for a nice, calm water birth with G&A! Must say, I am not personally too keen on an epidural either for the reasons you have mentioned, and I actually kind of enjoy experiencing the pain, in a weird kind of way, it makes me feel stronger.

Perhaps your next labour will be shorter??

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capecath · 12/03/2012 21:44

Oh and meant to say I did feel completely zonked and the last 4 hours (after being induced) are still very blurly but I do think that was just the pain rather than the drugs because I had them later on than that!!

VivaLeBeaver · 12/03/2012 21:49

Diamorph is a better pain relief but that's not to say that pethidine doesn't work. I had pethidine in labour and it was fab, I went to sleep for two hours.

I also had pethidine after having an ablation - came round in agony after surgery. Pain was far worse than labour and I was sucking on the entenox until they jabbed me. Again I fell asleep and it was bliss.

Not everyone will find it that good, but a lot to find it helps to make the pain bearable even though there is still some pain.

Diamorph has a stronger respiratory depressant affect which is why some hospitals don't use it (concerns over baby being born in a poor condition).

Lougle · 12/03/2012 22:16

Diamorphine is (legal, prescribed) Heroin. It's as effective as morphine; in fact, the diamorphine cannot itself ease pain - it has to be metabolised into morphine first. That process only takes around 30 seconds, however. It is more potent than morphine (when injected), because it is more fat-soluble, so a smaller dose of diamorphine can have the same effect as a higher dose of morphine.

It works in the brain, binding to opioid receptors, which reduce the perception of pain and response to pain. In other words, it doesn't stop the pain, but you don't know it hurts as much as it does!

Pethidine works in much the same way (although technically, it affects different receptors) but has different side-effects. The side-effects are different for each woman, though.

For me, I had Gas and Air and TENS for labour #1 - the G&A made me lose all muscle tone and sensation, but I could still hear. As the G&A wore off (within about 10secs) my sensation came back, then muscle tone. This happened at every contraction.

For labour #2, I had G&A plus TENS, but then got a positional difficulty, so pethidine was suggested to allow my body to 'relax' and give me more time (labour was progressing quite quickly). It was a horrible experience. I was fitfully dozing between contractions. I was aware of the contractions and they hurt! but I couldn't communicate the fact.

I needed the loo, but couldn't sit up properly, let alone walk. The midwife suggested I pop to the loo - they realised I needed a bed pan! I was in what can only be described as a 'Dissociative state' - I could hear the tv, but the sounds repeated in an echoey fashion. I would have periods of speaking gobbledigook, then suddenly 'come out of it' and see and hear clearly, but was very confused. It was horrible.

I have to say though, that 5 minutes before DD2 was born, I had a sudden moment of clarity, sat up and said 'I need to push this baby out!'.

labour #3 - Went back to my trusty G&A and TENS Grin

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