Homeopathy for childbirth... question

[nannyl]

Did you use homeopathic remedies for child birth?
Can i ask what DID you use?
I was looking at this in ebay homeopathy birth mini kit that contains Aconite, Arnica, Caulophylum, Kali Phos, & Pulsatilla, but wondered if the helios childbirth homeopathic kit with 18 remedies would be better?

any comments please?

(My mum managed to give birth to me and my sister with just homeopathic remedies (she can only remember using 3) & gas and air)
Would it be better to see a homeopath?

all comments greatfully recieved. thanks

(am nearly 22 weeks pg)

You do know that there is, nor has there ever been, any evidence that homeopathy works at all, don't you?

yes calamity jane, i do

still maintain arnica has helped me LOADS though, & thats all that matters to me

it's been a few years since i was pregnant,but yes i used homeopathic remedies throughout all pregnancies,tho not during my first labour where i suffered a 2nd degree tear.
my other children were homebirths and iirc i took arnica from about 36wks,i also took raspberry leaf tablets.
during labour i also sipped water with a few drops of rescue remedy added.
arnica certainly worked imho as i did suffer grazing with the subsequent births but was at least (tmi) able to visit the toilet without pain!
have you looked at any of zita west's books?
she covers homeopathy and also aromatherapy in depth

Thank you blonemoment

i have lots of zita wests books... (conception and pregnancy) and love her book natural pregnancy.

am a resuce remedy fan too...) always have a bottle on hand bag and cupboard), and plan to use it (and raspberry leaf tea too)

am planning a home water hypno birth with as little medication as possible.. fingers crossed, and LOVE the fact that my mummy managed twice.. gives me some hope

If yoou are anywhere near Tunbridge Wells, the helios shop is there and the homeopath in there is very approacable and knowlegable. I went there 8 days after my due date, spent loads time chatting to him, he gave me 3 remedies, I used one and went into labour that night.

Used before in previous labour too with success, use arnica all the time and rescue remedy.

Well, rescue remedy contains alcohol, doesn't it? So at least has something in there.

rescue rememdey is fab

not sure if its any more alcoholic than vanilla essence though?

lia, what ashame, im in yorkshire so about as far as i can get from T.Wells
(made the effort to read zita wests natural pg guide last night and she certainly has lots of info on what homeopathic remedies to use, when and why, and has pages and pages devoted to different stages of labour,, VERY helpful

hi, i took a hypnobirthing course where they recommended to get this onewww.thehealthworks.co.uk/antepostnatal.php?id=Pregnancy%20Services ... i bought this, but haven't tried it... it seems pretty comrehensive for before, during and after... but will have to rely on my DH to give out the pills, assuming i can give a ntural birth.... i can let you know if it works if you remind me later (i am due next week)

Nannyl, I'm a nanny and recognise you from the other forum, have namechanged so I don't out myself! I know you are into natural things-so am I-don't use products with sls/parabens/sulphates etc, don't have anything containing aspartame etc. I have read zita west books and loads of others on natural, non toxic lifestyle.

I used to use homeopathy but then I read a book called bad science and it made me look into it further and really changed my views. Your comment that all you know is it works for you is one that is mentioned a few times in the book! I'm not telling you to change your views but it's an interesting read if nothing else. I have posted below one of the main arguments that swayed me, though there are others. Hope you don't mind me posting this but as we have similar stances on other things and I know you like knowing what is going in your body I thought it was worth mentioning.

"The 'science' behind homeopathyHomeopathic remedies are made by taking an ingredient, such as arsenic, and diluting it down so far that there is not a single molecule left in the dose that you get. The ingredients are selected on the basis of like cures like, so that a substance that causes sweating at normal doses, for example, would be used to treat sweating.
Many people confuse homeopathy with herbalism and do not realise just how far homeopathic remedies are diluted. The typical dilution is called "30C": this means that the original substance has been diluted by 1 drop in 100, 30 times. On the Society of Homeopaths site, in their "What is homeopathy?" section, they say that "30C contains less than 1 part per million of the original substance."
This is an understatement: a 30C homeopathic preparation is a dilution of 1 in 10030, or rather 1 in 1060, which means a 1 followed by 60 zeroes, or - let's be absolutely clear - a dilution of 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000.
To phrase that in the Society of Homeopaths' terms, we should say: "30C contains less than one part per million million million million million million million million million million of the original substance."
At a homeopathic dilution of 100C, which they sell routinely, and which homeopaths claim is even more powerful than 30C, the treating substance is diluted by more than the total number of atoms in the universe. Homeopathy was invented before we knew what atoms were, or how many there are, or how big they are. It has not changed its belief system in light of this information."

For both forceps delivery and EMCS, I've taken Arnica 200c from the day of labour onwards and each time I've recovered much more quickly than the MWs have expected.

Hello Belleof the bawle
Not sure i know who you are but you obviously know me

thanks so much for taking the time to write such a long post..
Of course i dont mind you posting. we all can say what we want, and offereing relevant helpful advice is IMO a good thing
I know the bad science behind it... and yes it seems rediculouse (and im normally a very very 'scientific' person)

Have a psychology degree, and there is a huge placebo effect.... and if it "works" then i dont think it matters what the science (or lack of) is behind it.
Have a had a few discussions abut it recently (especially with my acupuncturist) who is also very much into alternative stuff. Homeopathy works on children and animals too (who IMO (animals especially) dont even know about placebo effect)... their symptoms just improve.

I had a very very sick dog 10+ years ago and our vet was into homeopathy as well as 'modern medicine'. The animals impoved (as did MY dog)...

I nannied for a family who were into homepothay too, and baby had homeopathic teething stuff.... it relieved his symptoms.... and many (though by no means all) babies who i have cared for have had immediate relief from teeting when homepathic salts (from boots etc) were used.

I believe our modern medicine doesnt understand ENOUGH.... we think we understand it though, but in my eyes, i think there is a little something missing, and perhaps whoever works out what it is might win a nobel prize? who knows.

It has worked for me in the past... worked for my mum (who DID have a labour with no pain relief at all (for my sister) and who didnt tear at all) & worked for my dog...
I dont mind if its placebo or not if it "works" & i dont mind what the technical explanations are... if it helps, then great

and people who dont believe it dont have to use it either

nannyl - the placebo effect works on the observer, too.

I dont mind who observes what, if it works from if it works...

if (like my mum) i have a birth with no other pain relief (except i want a water birth too) and dont tear, "heal" super fast, & have no stitches i dont mind why..... if i get the outcome i want as a result then thats good enough for me....

homeopathy worked on my friends cat... who suddenly kept weeing inside,, even blatently in front of them etc.... Cat had rescue remedy (cause cat was stressed) Cat also stopped weeing on the floor....... friend was delighted... no cat pee to clear up. and got the wanted results...

as for babies, if you can see they are upset and crying and you give them something and they seem happier and are no longer as upset... whats the problem?

Have been in a couple of nasty car accidents.... the one where i took arnica i healed much faster than when i didnt... and my friend who was in the same crash as me (but injured less) healed more slowly than i did...
I had arnica.... she didnt (and we both saw the same osteopath, and were treated by the same ambulence crew, but due to the accident my symptoms were worse......... just to add to "control" we were on holiday together and ate pretty much the same food in run up to accident and also the days after.