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Water VBAC

17 replies

goodlifemummy · 04/10/2010 18:30

Hi There

I am currently 29 weeks with DC3. I had ELCS with my twins 5 years ago at 33+6 due to pre-eclampsia. I am hoping for a VBAC this time, but would really, really like a water birth. I mentioned this to the MW at my booking in appointment and she said that as my local hospital have the underwater equipment I can labour in the pool(if its available) but would have to come out for delivery...Why would that be? And do they have a crane big enough to haul me out if I refuse??!

I'm sure I have read threads about WVBACs, but if anyone can think of an obvious reason why I couldn't push in the water, I would really like to know before I do my birth plan.

Surely the water would be supportive re scar rupture?

Thanks in advance xx

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ilovefirelighters · 04/10/2010 18:39

hello!
i'm now 36wks and going for vbac after emcs with ds 3 yrs ago. i wanted a water birth this time but was told due to risks with scar rupture etc i wouldn't be able to use pool at all as baby would need monitoring. i've had loads of vbac and anaesthetist appts and am now really reassured and happy with my birth plan so not too bothered about not having the pool to use. does the risk of rupture increase at pushing stage? im wondering if your hospital are willing for you to use pool until that time and then you need to get out for continual monitoring. just a thought.

goodlifemummy · 04/10/2010 19:22

Goodness knows the logic, as I will have the constant monitoring while labouring in the pool anyway....

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TheBreastmilksOnMe · 04/10/2010 19:39

I don't think that there is any sound medical reason for you not to deliver in the water I just think it's a case of what the midwives are more comfortable with TBH. If you decide to dilier under water then you deliver uder water, there is no way any midwife will attempt to haul you at they will just ahggve to deal with it. I'm in the same situation myself and I intend on doing it my way, if that is underwater then so be it.

goodlifemummy · 04/10/2010 19:51

I did wonder how the hell they were going to release my grip on the side of the pool to get me out - not gonna happen! Good luck with yours x

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TheBreastmilksOnMe · 04/10/2010 19:54

Thanks- and you yours Smile

Rhigwyn · 04/10/2010 23:13

Hello all. Just wanted to say that last Friday I gave birth to our new baby son at home in the pool This was my 2nd vbac water birth at home. With my ds1 I had an emcs due to slow progress. I had to fight hard when my dd was born 4 years later but if u stick to what you really want, and show them you have made a well informed choice and let them know that you will take their advice and go in if anythings wrong, then there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to at least try. The care you will receive will be second to none. The baby was monitored every 10 mins. When I was in the water the mw just asked me to stand up to listen in, and she only did that because she didn't have a water Doppler. I hope you can achieve the birth you want, it can be done! Good luck !!

TheBreastmilksOnMe · 05/10/2010 13:32

Congratulations Rhigwyn! That's fab news! Very inspiring! Do you fancy sharing your birth story with us, in all detail, if you catch a spare minute? I do love a good birth story! Grin

Are you welsh BTW?

goodlifemummy · 05/10/2010 20:49

Well done rhigwyn am ready to stand up for what I want, huge congratulations! xx

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DomesticG0ddess · 06/10/2010 13:01

They have said to me that I need to get out to actually deliver too, but I figured that once I am in and things are going well, and I want to stay in, that they are not going to force me to get out.

Rhigwyn · 07/10/2010 10:39

Hurrah! Finally I've got five mins to reply!! And the little man is flat out on my chest- yummy yummy:-) xx! So, umm where to begin!!? As I mentioned before I've had a previous csection and a previous vbac water birth at home. I had a nice pregnancy this time round , no complications etc so that put me in a good place to go for it again. They told me I was allowed term +10, I told them I was having term +14! on my due date I asked for a sweep at home. I was really favourable, cervix already 2cms. No joy after the 1st sweep but because I was so favourable they said I could have one every other day. So, on 40+6 after sweep number 4( more than our chimney!!) I started having contractions within the hour of mw leaving. Had also been having a show since sweep number 1 and lots of good braxton hicks. I rang my Hubby who came back about 4 pm, my mum picked the kids up from school and brought them home. My dream birth was that the children would be upstairs asleep and would wake up to a new baby brother or sister and we were close to that being possible so my Hubby entertained them like crazy for a few hours till bedtime while I bounced away on my ball and had a bath. Contractions were really sporadic, every 15, every 7. No major rhythm but quite strong. Rang mw at 8.30 pm she said to ring her if they came every 5 mins. I put my tens on but by half ten I rang again to say they were every 4 mins. She was here by 11pm! I honestly thought she'd say "fantastic ur 8cms"!! But she said I was 3! :-( she wouldn't leave though cause she reckoned 3 babies are often quick. I laboured at home, had another bath etc till she checked me again at 2.30am and I was still 3:-(!! Gutted. I was in alot of pain and my contractions were every 2 mins. When she examined me she said his head was in a slightly awkward position. His chin was up. I was begging her to let me go in the pool but she didn't want me to yet. She didn't want to have to pull me put to examine me again and wanted me to be in established labour(5cms) first. I carried on labouring till 5.30 am, she checked me again and I was 4-5( yeyyy!!) which meant I was allowed to get in the pool. I got in at 5.40am- the sense of relief I felt getting in was like nothing else I can tell u!!! My waters went at 6am and by 6.20 I wanted to push big time! My little man was born at 6.26am! It happened so quickly at the end- the water for me is just phenomenal. It's allowed my pelvis to really open up and dilated my cervix for me!! He was 8lb5ozs and not a stitch in sight! Sorry for this ridiculously long post but as u can tell it's something I feel strongly about! Water vbac is just amazing, if ur medical history will allow it and ur sensible then go for it! It's amazing what us wonderful women can achieve:-) oh, and breastmilk- yes I'm very welsh! The username gives me away! Xxxx

Rhigwyn · 07/10/2010 10:43

Ooh, and the best bit!! My other two babies were up after a good nights sleep and in the room to meet their brother when he was 5 mins old. Perfect xx

WowOoo · 07/10/2010 10:54

I would have thought with your medical history they would rather be able to keep a very close eye on things in later stages as it were rather than letting you get on with it in the water.

If rest of pregnancy goes smoothly and you and baby doing well , am sure you could argue your case.

The most obvious reason: it's hard to monitor under water?
Electricity and water do not mix.

Getting in and out can slow things down.

Managed a VBAC but some hussy was refusing to leave the birthing pool until a crane arrived. The nerve!
We had a nice hot bath after.

mungogerry · 07/10/2010 18:29

My history:

DD1 2004 Hossy water birth

DS1 2006 Home water birth

DD2 2008 ELCS after planned vaginal breech birth - but waters went and birth hadn't started 4 days later so I opted for the section.

Baby 4 - my birth story from 6 weeks ago today:

Tuesday night my waters broke. No reason, they just went - as has been the start with all 4 of my births.

But then nothing. For 2 days despite my best efforts.

6:10pm Thursday night I had a bit of an upset tummy and then I felt a tiny niggle.

Then 6:12, 6:16, 6:19, 6:22, 6:23, 6:27, 6:29, 6:31, 6:33. Oh regular niggles!!!!!

Hhhhhmmm called Paul upstairs told him we needed to monitor things to see whether this was a false alarm or was going to progress into labour, and that we should get the kids oout of the house so he could be there for me. More waters flooding everywhere now.

6:35 Called mum to come and get the kids as I was a bit shocked incase things were actually happening and happening so quickly.

I turn on contraction master:

6:43:44 PM 6:44:12 PM 0:26 2 m, 7 s
6:41:37 PM 6:42:29 PM 0:51 2 m, 54 s
6:38:43 PM 6:39:29 PM 0:44 1 m, 50 s
6:36:53 PM 6:38:40 PM 1:45 1 m, 9 s

They weren't contractions, but they were tightenings, and every minute or two seemed - well - quite close.

6:44 Mum was out at a pub for dinner a few villages 30 mins away WTF? Ok, called best mate who arrived 3mins later and herded them off.

6:45 Maybe I should let a mw know? Should I/shouldn't I? Has only being going on a few minutes and could be due to the upset tummy - but then I do labour quickly and if it does turn into labour and they have a job getting hold of the mw on call, I could be in a sticky situation? I weigh it up and I call delivery suite.

What an easy call that was. Took my name,and that it was a home birth, and the name of my named mw, asked how often I was contracting, her voice changed when I said every minute or two and said she would contact my mw to call me straight back. She did to say she was on the way.

Niggles were now early contractions and all across under the bump. I was taking my own temp and babys heart rate every 15 mins (had been doing this anyway since waters went on Tuesday) and we were good. I move downstairs and we start readying the birth room.

Still clicking contraction master...

Start Time End Time Duration Frequency
Stopped Stopped Stopped Stopped
7:02:59 PM 7:04:01 PM 1:1 1 m, 47 s
7:01:12 PM 7:02:07 PM 0:54 2 m, 38 s
6:58:34 PM 7:00:11 PM 1:36 1 m, 56 s
6:56:38 PM 6:57:36 PM 0:57 1 m, 52 s
6:54:46 PM 6:55:44 PM 0:58 1 m, 43 s
6:53:02 PM 6:53:52 PM 0:48 1 m, 33 s
6:51:29 PM 6:52:24 PM 0:53 7 m, 46 s

7:03 Mw arrived, I bring her up to speed with what has happened so far, she brought her things in and got set up. She is happy with mine and babys vitals and I decline an internal. Paul infaltes the pool.

Tens went on at 7:15 as we were game on now and niggles were becoming contractions. Pool starts to fill. OMG how slowly?????

7:30 Mum arrives with my aunty to join the birth party. Boy this labour is going some now, have to concentrate and stop talking during contractions.

7:35 I want to get in the pool now but the pool is filling too slowly. Mw rings 2nd mw, and student. I ask for gas and air now as I can't get in the pool yet.

Mum and aunt start bringing bowls and kettles from all the bathrooms in the house aswell as the hose already filling the pool. I need to get in but can't. Oh well, I am so glad that I'm finally in labour that I just don't care lol. Really, ME, not care about my pool - how's that for a turn up!!

Anyway pool ready at 7:45 and I get in. No stopping this time, still cracking on. Didn't even have time to strip naked, so bra stayed on (I realise later).

8:00 Paul asks what I want to do about the children - I tell him four is definitely enough. I then tell him I would like them back (it was my plan to have them in the house for labour and birth if they wished, but I had wanted them gone earlier).

8:02 He calls Sarah and she brings them straight round. Kids are amazing and watch the last 10 mins of my labour, coming to talk to me in between contractions for a few seconds. My 3 yr old gets his goggles on ready :-D

Mum has been handed the camera by this point and is filming. I feel a head moving down. The gas and air stops working, oh great talk about good timing!!! I tell the mw who is about to change the cylinder, but then I tell her no - come back the head is coming.

8:12 So I am now 100% sober and alert and now I have to deliver what I can feel is a HUGE head, with no pain relief. Oh well, there is clearly no going back so best get on with it.

8:16pm Head is out, a body, a BABY :-D

I reach down and catch my baby, turn over and lift it to the surface.

The children are in awe and immediately are reaching into the water stroking the baby. I lift the baby up high so that they can do their "job" at the birth and they look and announce that they have a brother.

All is right with the world. The children reach in to feel his hands, hair and anything else they can reach lol. All three of them are delighted with the new addition and are desperate for a cuddle.

8:20 Student mw turns up.

We enjoy some more family time and the DD1 aged 5 and DS1 aged 3 ask a million questions about the cord, vernix, and above all can they cuddle him NOW? lol. We have been in the pool about 20 mins and the cord has stopped pulsating so I tell them that yes they can cut the cord and take him for a cuddle while I climb out of the pool. They do and are delighted to do so.

8:45 Placenta slips out and dops on the floor as I lift my leg out of the pool.

Job done.

2nd mw arrives about 5 mins later. Kids are intrigued by te placenta and want to touch it. Louise the mw tells them all about it and does the checks on it with them helping lmao!

Bit more family time then my mum invites the older two for a sleepover and Paul and I chat with the mws and DD2 (20 months) plays with baby (Her favorite game was licking his toes which she found completely hilarious???) and eats most of the mw's biscuits.

By 11ish everyone is gone and we are alone, elated, and shattered. What an amazing night.

Oh forgot to say he weighed 10lbs 13oz. Head circumference of 37.5cm and a length of 58.5cm.

Obviously all births (including VBAC's) are different, but I did TONNES or research and felt this was the best way for me. It was a beautiful and straight-forward birth, at dinner time we were a family of 5, by bedtime we were six :-)

I hope this helps x

mungogerry · 07/10/2010 18:40

My hossy support you labouring and delivering in the pool, and they supported my home water VBAC.

Poppet45 · 07/10/2010 22:15

Beautiful post Mungojerry, I've got tears in my eyes. So many wonderful wishes for what sounds like an amazing wee family you have there.

goodlifemummy · 08/10/2010 05:34

How wonderful! Congratulations - made me cry a bit!!

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whoodoo · 08/10/2010 10:59

I did VBAC WB for DS3 and delievered in the pool. Consultant against it but consultant MW very supportive. Was great!!

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