arnica (sorry another arnica question)

[sophieandbelly]

ok sorry i no i have read about arnica on here before but cnt find thread!

iam having c-section weds, i have brought some arnica tablets, when should i take them? and how many? not sure they will help but worth a try, my dr atcually laughed in my face when i asked her!

the anti homeopaths on this thread are contradicting themselves. 1st you say it doesnt work, then you say its scientifically proven to work no better than placebo-ergo,it works. Albeit not statistically significant to 0.5%,but it works.

I did my masters in culture and mental health and there are many remedies and treatments that work by the power of the mind alone. And many that work better by this. Eg branded painkillers have higher reported efficacy than generics. One professor i cant recall his name actually favoured positively utilising this mechanism in healthcare.

Wrt to flamingo being patronising, dont you others think the 'have you any idea how much money is made....' comment was a tad patronising too?

What gets me tho is how mumsnetters jump on anyone who states a belief in homeopathy- like flamimgo says each to their own. But tje response is like were suggesting taking heroin or something!

darn. Always after the event you think of a better line. Shouldve said the response is like suggesting-shock horror-using purees for weaning!

(muslimah 28 laughs quietly to herself)

I find it interesting that people scoff at Acupuncture as I had a very interesting reaction to acupuncture treatment following a miscarriage. Without being a bore and highjacking the thread I'd like to share the following.

Had a miscarriage at 6 1/2 weeks. I opted to let nature take it's course rather than a D&C as my twins were only 4 months old (yep, you can't get pregnant breastfeeding or after IVF apparently...) and I'd spent over a month in hospital before they were born and had a hideous caesarean, etc. The bleeding was horrendous and although I eventually passed everything and it tailed off I continued with spotting and chronically heavy periods for three months afterwards. I went to see my acupuncturist - a fab lady who did all my IVF acupuncture (trained physiotherapist so not some random quack in a shopping arcade) - whilst I had my period as she was working on my back and my mangled c section scar (trying to break down the haematoma behind it with acupuncture and massage). Anyway, I mentioned the hideous bleeding I was having, largely because I bled through onto her therapy bed and she said she'd needle the points to my uterus. She duly did this, which was pretty horrible (dull, grim ache) and I went home and passed what can only be described as a large amount of bloody grit. I presume it was a small amount of 'product' left following my miscarriage that hadn't expelled itself and was causing the spotting and chronically heavy periods.

Of course you could argue that I'd have gone home that evening and expelled the grit anyway even if I'd swerved the acupuncture and gone shopping instead but I think it's rather coincidental. I don't expect people who don't believe in it to be persauded otherwise by my experience as it's all personal but I'm of the view that it can and does work for some people with some practitioners. Not every acupuncturist is good and not every acupuncturist will suit you. My take on it anyway.

To the original OP I'd take the arnica in 200c form from a day or two before. It can't do any harm and it may well be beneficial to you even thought it hasn't been beneficial to some on here.

Sorry - 'nature take its coure' not 'it's'. Terrible typos...

I actually have no issue with people spending their own money on homeopathy as long as they understand the limitations - i.e. that the preparations do not contain the active herbal ingredient on the label (a very common misconception) and that there is very little evidence for homeopathy working better than placebo and none for some conditions it is promoted for.

What I do have an issue with is expensive kits and preparations being promoted in a way that ensures most people buying them have no idea of the limitations.

The legal loopoholes that homeopathic preparations get through are amazing IMO (e.g. products produced before the laws got stricter still being allowed to say they are for conditions for which there is no evidence they treat).

Personally, I also have an issue with the NHS spending large amounts of funding on it, when evidence based treatments cannot always be funded.

Japhrimel, so do I (have issues with NHS spending on it). If people want to spend money on homeopathy, that's fine. But don't spend my tax contributions on it, thanks very much.

Muslimah28, you are right of course about the placebo effect of both homeopathy and of brand-name pharmaceuticals as opposed to generics. But personally it wouldn't make me buy either brand names or homeopathics. Why waste money and hope? I would feel like I was being royally fleeced by the companies that made them. I think homeopathic remedy companies are at best naive and at worst dishonest and unethical in what they do, and also agree with Japhrimel that it is very often not at all apparent that there's no active ingredient in the product.

Personally don't have a problem with purees for weaning. Or even (whispers) jarred food - hey, my daughter was practically raised on it .

I wonder how the OP got on?

if people expect there to be significant levels of a herb in a homeopathic remedy then they dont understand the very principles on which homeopathy is based. this is a gap on the part of the buyer not the manufacturer.

i expect the OP has lost interest what with her thread being hijacked (and im as guilty of that as anyone else here...sorry OP!)