personality disorder in teens

[GypsyMoth]

anyone know anything about this? does it manifest in teens? hereditary?

too panicky to google,but been on my mind for a while

attachment disorders?

Hi tiff Don't think they can diagnose until adulthood as some of the traits are present in kids normally like the lack of empathy for others etc

Think sometimes the psychiatrists will go as far as saying a teen has ? Emergent PD. Don't blame you god not wanting to consult with Dr Google it never fails to make us more worried!

Hope all is ok @ home.

Yes - subject of much controversy in adolescent psych. Not much evidence that its hereditary more to do with parenting styles/environment.

Can't be diagnosed before 18 yrs as personality still developing and has to be present for 5 yrs prior to diagnosis.

Why do you want to know?

'For' not 'god'..... Sorry am on phone & posted before I was ready.

Don't know about whether it's hereditary but I know that it is used as a bit of a catch all for people who don't behave 'normally' but there is no other medical explanation. A bit like conduct disorder I suppose.

we are waiting...and waiting ...for the psych appointment from CAMH which was requested last year.

lack of empathy is an interesting point. she is becoming quite bullying.....at 14,never,ever before. just lately,so keeping an eye on that one

youth offending team involved and have saisd they want to do some work with her about consequences of behaviour

i find this really hard as i 'set' her moral compass when she was small,so i thought,but the bullying?? and its been of teachers,special needs adult and her own siblings,as well as her peer groups. i dont understand how she has become like this,almost overnight.

thats just one of the things i worry about tho,there are others. and i cant help but compare her to her dad who has this disorder too. (dont tell her this obviously)

know nothing of attachment disorder mitchy

i told dd yesterday how upset i am,she sees me in tears (which is new for me,i'm not a crier) and laughs and says its funny. thinks its hilarious she has driven me to the point of gp appointment.

its not something that can be easily diagnosed then.

she herself feels something is wrong Siobbhan.....for a while she felt she had ADHD and recognises she behaves differently with her peers around her

what makes you think of personality disorders particularly, as opposed to the 'other sort' of mental health problems?

I thought attachment disorders were the child/adolescent equivalent of personality disorders, maybe not officially.

Sorry - 'why do you want to know?' sounds rather brusque and rude.

Situation with hereditary factors not so clear cut in ASD and adult personality problems - some adults with personality disorders have undiagnosed ASD.

The lack of empathy?
When trying to diagnose my dd the dr repeatedly asked about empathy. But dd does care when I cry so I guess they ruled it out!
Hard to tell in teens I would say as they can be naturally vile!

pumpster.....yes,indeed! hard to tell,she does have empathy in other ways.

Having real probs with broadband connection wh disconnects and erases my messages. Will try again later.

I think a lot of 'different' behaviours can be apparent in a lot of mental illnesses as well as behavioural issues. That need to assess her properly & rule out all sorts of things before they will go down the PD road. It is always not far from our thoughts though if there is a familial history but there could be a million and one reasons for her issues. If the bullying is not a longstanding problem it is unlikely to be a character trait though as it wouldn't have started overnight, hope that gives you some reassurance.

Attachment disorders are caused by a child's experiences in the first year of life. Things like PND in the mother can cause poor attachment. as can things like being adopted, abused or neglected as a baby.
The latest research into brain development says that the brain's development is physically affected by these sorts of events in the first year of life.

Hello

I have some experience of mental health issues with teenagers and the best thing I can say is.....before getting too panicked (I did and am talking from experience) try and talk to AS MANY PARENTS of teenagers as humanly possible. The first thing that this will do is reassure you that a heck of a lot of what looks like completely alien behaviour is perfectly normal. This is a massive help and will allow you to really look at your teenagers behaviour so much more objectively as your stresses and worries are reduced.

Also, once they hit puberty, for a little while, we all need to be aware that this is no longer our little girl/boy who was such a sweetie just a few months back!

I think the reason why we don't find it easy to relate to teens sometimes by remembering our own teenage years is because we were so wrapped up in ourselves that we were totally UN-self-aware of the pain we put our parents through, mostly because we were, as is the very nature of teens, busy trying to establish ourselves as people. Not someones daughter or sibling, and be recognised for individual thoughts and opinions. Sometimes this results in erratic and hurtful behaviour. It's hard but important to try and really concentrate on not sweating the small stuff and keep it in perspective.

I promise I know all too well how incredibly difficult this is!

Best of luck (won't be long til they're off to uni! ;) )

Claire

www.clairecrawshaw.co.uk

Please Please can somebody help us.
I am sure my son has a mental condition and don't know where to go for help. If I listed my concerns the page would not be big enough. He never settled at school, was always in trouble. Nothing really bad but inappropriate behaviour. He is angry and obsessive with (table mats facing the right way) e.g. He is so angry at times then at others almost catatonic and in his own world. He is also delusional in that he is at the same school 6th form doing A levels. They are so close to asking him to leave as he doesn't turn up and is currently heading for u grades. He thinks he is fine and on track for straight A's. He smokes although been asked to go out continues to do it inside and seems like he purposely burnt holes in his carpet. He lies compulsively and shows very little emotion. I blame myself as suffered pnd when he was born and for first year hardly bonded. I love him as do all the family, but we can't cope and need help, for his and all our sakes. Where do I go for help considering he has left compulsory education

Halfrom please speak to your GP re your son. He will be able to refer to the right place.