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Help I'd like some chickens

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Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 10:04

Hello,

It's been a dream of mine to have some chickens for about 20 years!

Recently I've been made redundant, I can afford not to work until the middle of next year. And tbh my mental health is a bit of a mess from chronic stress.

So I'm wondering if this is the time to get some chickens. I have two cats and a 9 year old DD. I have a lovely garden 😬

I've read that certain chickens are more garden friendly. I have room for a chicken coop, but what do you do in really cold weather conditions?

I'd want about 2-3 chickens ideally, as pets for eggs and just to enjoy the funny little creatures wondering about. I think they would be good for my health.

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Grumpysawus · 18/10/2024 10:26

Chickens are fab! We’ve kept them for about 15 years now with a flock anywhere between 2 and 9! Currently we have 3.

We bought an Eglu Cube with run. The house itself is still fine but we swapped the run last year for a bigger walk in set up.

They free range in the garden when we’re home as we’ve lost a few over the years to day time fox (?) attacks. Sad lesson to learn.

We use extra straw under the roost in winter as insulation and you need to be good at checking water is still available and not frozen, but we don’t get that cold in winter as we’re coastal which keeps the temps up slightly.

eta now could be a good time to get chickens as many are selling off the ‘end of season’ birds that would have been POL in the summer. Or look at the rescue sites - the commercial farms get rid of their birds at approx 18mths. There was one local to us last weekend.

Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 10:28

But will they eat all my grass and my flowers?! I've heard bantams are better for that?

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Grumpysawus · 18/10/2024 10:31

All the bantams we have had have gone broody and stopped laying for weeks at a time. If you want consistent eggs and friendly chickens, bog standard browns are the best in our experience.

We have a large garden so it’s not an issue them eating plants. There is grass in their run atm but that’s because they’ve been out so much. It will probably go over winter and become muddy.

CaneToad · 18/10/2024 10:35

Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 10:28

But will they eat all my grass and my flowers?! I've heard bantams are better for that?

Oh my sweet summer child…
😂😂😂😂😂😂

No, all chickens are endlessly destructive bin-mouthed feathery vandals that will - and must - eat anything they can fit in their beaks. (This includes earrings you accidentally drop and small but crucial pieces of Lego. Ask me know I know…)

Hens are marvellous pets, will happily beat up over-interested cats, can be played with by children, can learn tricks if you’re determined, will come when you call (mostly) and lay lovely eggs

BUT

They are small dinosaurs of destruction and they will unerringly eat your favourite or most valuable plants and ignore the crap ones you wish they’d eat.

You need a Chicken Area and a Chicken Free Area. Also, they poo about every 20 minutes so if you let them loose in the garden, everyone always needs shoes on.

Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 10:42

Ok thank you 😬😬😬🤣

I love my garden and my plants, I'd need to work out how I would accommodate them!

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Horrace · 18/10/2024 10:46

I concur with Cane Toad
They are the most marvellous fun. We have between 3 and 6 at a time with 4 or 5 cats at a time. The chucks rule.
I never fail to smile as they run up the lawn to greet me each time I go outside.
But they will destroy your garden if let them have free reign.
We always get ex batts and quite often one has either died on the journey home or by the next morning from stress so do be prepared if you down that route.
Good luck.

Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 10:49

Ok so how about I have a chicken house (?!) is that what's it's called with a run, but then let them free roam a bit when we're outside? I want them to enjoy life in the garden. Tbh I have mainly large shrubs, lavender etc the flowers are in pots which I can move.

Will they eat my tree/shrubs etc?

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Jazz7 · 18/10/2024 10:52

They need a run not just to protect your plants but to protect them from foxes urban or otherwise and their house needs cleaned out regularly. Since this month you are legally required to register them even if you only have one. If there is a bird flu outbreak which there is every year now it seems you have to keep them inside so wild birds can’t infect them or the other way round. A run isn’t enough if small birds can get through it. Full size hens will wreck your garden if they get a chance and the run and house need to be moved from time to time when they have dug up all the grass. Also they don’t lay eggs int he winter months with the shorter days.

Pootles34 · 18/10/2024 10:53

My mother got hens in part because everyone said they would eat the slugs that were eating her hostas. Only to see a hen running down the garden with said hosta in its beak.

Her eventual solution was chopping the garden in half, one half is the manicured bit, the other half is the bits the chickens were allowed in, with a nice fence and a kick-gate inbetween.

Lovelysummerdays · 18/10/2024 10:54

I have two chickens. They are pretty hardy, In winter I put them in the greenhouse when it’s snowy. They have free run of the garden and just wander around chatting away. My top tip is get a couple of rubber eggs then when they choose a laying spot( normally tucked away somewhere). Pop them in there and take the eggs and they will keep coming back to lay.

DanielaDressen · 18/10/2024 10:54

I used to have chickens - started off with 3 and fenced off an area about 9ft x 16ft. It had a walk in run attached and then an Eglu coop in the non covered bit. There was no grass left within about 2 weeks, they had scratched it all up.

I'm not sure how the rest of the garden lawn would have stood up to them having free access at times - I guess it depends how big your garden is. But they scratch constantly and want to rip up the grass to get to bugs in the soil.

Remember all chickens now have to be registered with DEFRA and at any point they can order all chickens to be kept under cover due to bird flu and now your back yard flock has to be registered they can come and do spot checks. I haven't replaced my chickens as I found the last few years of keeping them undercover too stressful.

CaneToad · 18/10/2024 10:55

We’ve had 23 years of pet hens, from the initial pair (I was a newbie, I didn’t realise pairs were less of a good plan than having 3) up to flock of 13. We’re currently at 7.

I prefer to get hens in the spring, as you’re more likely to be outside spending time with them at that time of year . Like many animals, if they are socialised with people from being young they will very tame.

I also tend to keep a range of breeds, if only for ease of telling them apart. I haven’t found any difference in sociability between hybrids. More expensive pure and heritage breeds can be more of a challenge in terms of personality.

As a newcomer to hens, I’d say avoid the white hens (Light Sussex, White Star, Amber Star, etc) As breeds they tend to be lighter bodied and thus more prone to be flighty (and hop fences) which is bit of a hassle when you aren’t confident handling them.
But all the brown, ginger, black etc are pretty laid back and good natured.

Black Rock, Columbian Blacktail, Warrens, ISA Browns, Rangers (or Ginger rangers, or other similar names), Speckledys, etc etc - they are robust, calm, not very broody, good layers and make great beginner pets.

Whatever you decide, good luck!

(oh, and chickens don’t lay during winter because light levels are too low, so if you do decide to get some soon, don’t worry if they aren’t laying between mid November and February)

suki1964 · 18/10/2024 10:56

If you want a garden and hens, you need to section an area off for them and understand they will have it stripped bare of any greenery within weeks and come the winter it will be a mud bath

We used to have hens, I have a HUGE garden and its banked down to the fields below. The banked area is rough ground, weeds, nettles, scrub, so we chicken wired around the boundary line , they had it stripped bare within weeks with huge dust baths dug everywhere . We only let them on to the garden proper in the evenings so they could peck at the lawn , flower beds were well and truly chicken wired

If you just want a couple of hens then an igloo set up that has a caged outside pen that can be moved about the garden would be a good idea - expensive but easily kept clean and hopefully free of mite and it would save your lawn and plants

Any hens got now wont start laying till next spring. You may get the odd egg every couple of days

DanielaDressen · 18/10/2024 10:56

Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 10:49

Ok so how about I have a chicken house (?!) is that what's it's called with a run, but then let them free roam a bit when we're outside? I want them to enjoy life in the garden. Tbh I have mainly large shrubs, lavender etc the flowers are in pots which I can move.

Will they eat my tree/shrubs etc?

I initially bought a house/ark with a run attached and when it turned up I was sad about small it was even though they'd assured me it was plenty big enough for 3 chickens. Think it was 7 ftx3ft. Which is why I got busy with making a fenced off area for them.

Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 10:58

I was thinking of getting an igloo which would work well in our garden. I just feel a little sorry for the chickens as the run is so small. They would surely get depressed and bored. I want happy chickens, I'm the sort of person would would knit them little hats for the winter 🤣

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countrygirl99 · 18/10/2024 10:59

I had a large run in my garden 6m x 2m and I used to put down bags of woodchip horse bedding in the winter or it was an utter bog. Using wood chippings from a tree surgeon runs the risk of introducing feather mite. The first year I put down straw which soon became a soggy, stinking mess.

SabreIsMyFave · 18/10/2024 11:00

This has made my day, discovering there is a Chicken Keepers board on Mumsnet! 😆

Cute af! I love chickens, but I don't think my neighbours would be too chuffed if I got some. (Neither would DH!) 😬

countrygirl99 · 18/10/2024 11:01

We also had to put concrete edging slabs round after a few months when a fox found a way in under the netting. It's amazing how small a gap even an adult fox can get through.

Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 11:06

That's the thing can the neighbours complain?! I would t get a rooster! But they do make little clucking noises but I love. Not sure that my neighbours would!

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CaneToad · 18/10/2024 11:08

Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 10:58

I was thinking of getting an igloo which would work well in our garden. I just feel a little sorry for the chickens as the run is so small. They would surely get depressed and bored. I want happy chickens, I'm the sort of person would would knit them little hats for the winter 🤣

They will also attempt to eat the little hats. 😂 Also painted toes peaking out of sandals. Also rings on your fingers.

They are happy when they have a good sized area to run around in, places to dust bathe, shade, places to scratch and root about, somewhere to bask in sunshine.

I put down 2 bales of straw in the autumn so their playground doesn’t get too waterlogged and muddy. They hate being wet.

A henhouse or ark that opens onto a larger fenced off area that you can also cover from above (for when DEFRA announces bird flu restrictions) is useful. I used old poly tunnel covers on a support structure of posts and arches so their free range area can be open air, netted or covered depending on which restrictions apply.

Borninabarn32 · 18/10/2024 11:08

We currently have 13, and two turkeys, and three peacocks. Everytime DP goes to the farm to get firewood they give him free animals.
We have a covered run with a coop in it, another laying box. A hanging feeder. A water bucket and a box of grit. We put straw down and i think DP puts something else in the laying box. Theres a dustbath (pile of dirt essentially) in there too. They have a fenced off part of the garden we let them free range in while we're about during the day and then under full supervision we let them in the rest of the garden to do a bit of deweeding, bug patrol and they find any mice the cats have left lying around. They also catch their own mice and frogs.

The cats don't take any interest in them at all and they're prolific hunters.

They keep eachother warm in the winter by huddling together so aim for the upper numbers that your coop accommodates. Too few and they won't be able to keep eachother warm.

CaneToad · 18/10/2024 11:16

Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 11:06

That's the thing can the neighbours complain?! I would t get a rooster! But they do make little clucking noises but I love. Not sure that my neighbours would!

Yes, the neighbours can and sometimes do complain. You need to check your council’s rules and your house deeds. Some prohibit livestock and poultry.

(Almost all prohibit cockerels as noise nuisances, but no one needs a cockerel in a garden flock anyway.)

Hens can be very noisy - particularly if a fox comes in the middle of the night hoping to get lucky and the chickens are all freaking out and squawking at top volume. Pelting downstairs at 3am to scare the fox off and calm the birds down before the neighbours kill me complain is one of my least favourite parts. It only happens a couple of times a year, though.

Mostly they cluck, chirp, chatter back and forth and make nice friendly noises. Some like to make a lot of fuss and noise about each egg, sometimes they need to shout at cats or blackbirds or something. Some are just dickheads.

Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 11:19

Can someone please send over good coop ideas for a medium ish sized garden?

Thank you! Loving this chat today, I feel better already 😊

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Cherryblossom200 · 18/10/2024 11:21

Some are just dickheads! Love this 🤣🤣🤣

Honestly this is brightening up my day!

I really want to do this so much, in the sort of person who will make it work somehow 😊

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Chasingsquirrels · 18/10/2024 11:40

Mine have 2 x 8mx6m greenhouses joined together with meshed sides for air flow, works really well during restrictions as I can just shut the greenhouse doors and they still have a reasonable run area (8mx12m)

Plus an outside area of a slightly bigger space in front and then up the side of the garage as well.
The whole outside space is a mud bath in wet weather.

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