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Hi everyone,

I am a cleaner for a company, but I have decided to go self employed, and I have one self employed job at the moment which is 2 hours a week.

I also work for a cleaning company because i need the hours. Last year I decided to quit my job because I was working evening hours (and I just prefer 9 -5

Well the cleaner that replaced me did such a bad job that they were begging me back! They said I could do any hours I wanted, and it worked perfectly for me in the past. It is such a nice company that make you feel part of a team.

But i am with this cleaning company, and now I want more. I am so popular and do an amazing job for them (not to be "oh i am great" kind of person) I just fit in to the team, I am not special, but they make me feel as though i am worthy, and I feel happy there.

I recently gave them a letter saying I will be leaving the cleaning company in a months time as I am now self employed, so if you want me to continue cleaning for you can you let me know.

I am just so afraid, i will admit that I am not the brightest person and they will see me as just some uneducated peron, who hasn' thought it through. like laws and stuff. I really don't think they will take someone like me on who is thick, but an excellent cleaner.I have probably just made a fool of myself.

Maybe I am just a good cleaner in life and don't deserve to better myself, i dont know .Can I convince them otherwise? I mean I wrote them a letter explaining the benefits of them hiring a self employed cleaner , for one it is cheaper, and I actually made my proposal at the right time as my cleaning company just emailed accounts saying that their prices are going up!

But I just got that vibe from the lower management today that they are not going to take me on, cause I am stupid.

Should I knock on the CEO's office door and explain about the legal stuff and the fact that I know what I am doing? I am not clever academically but I am wise and study up on the laws.

I don't understand your post. What exactly do you want from this company? For them to use your services but as a self-employed contractor. That means you would work for other clients too and pay your own tax as well as set your own hours.

What

Are you trying to undercut your previous employer on price with the same customer ? And now you think you can work for the same previous employer, but still do it cheaper ?

So you will be cleaning the same place, but for less money ?

I'm really pleased you've found a good company you enjoy working for, and you're recognised as a great cleaner.

But it's not clear to me what you're asking for, and I am not sure that it's going to be something they can agree to. They have their business model, and it sounds like you want that to change. Them saying no to that is not a reflection of your intelligence or cleaning capabilities, it's just that they prefer to employ people so they can direct their hours etc. If that doesn't work for you, fine. But don't take it as a slight - you know your worth, and if this isn't a good fit for you, then you can move on and start your new business yourself. Sorry if I've misunderstood the situation.

If you’re getting a bad vibe from lower management, maybe the CEO would see it differently but do you usually work directly to the CEO? If so you could say something like - just wanted to chat about my letter. I’ve done my homework, and I think this could work really well for both of us. Happy to explain how it all works if that helps.

good luck.

Sorry but I am totally lost

Do you have insurance would be my first question.

I think you are either resigning but trying to poach existing clients if they don’t award you a self employed contract. Or are you wanting to run your own business but also work for them as well? It’s not very clear.

Look at the contract of employment you have signed with your current cleaning agency. If there is a clause about taking clients from them then be wary. They are called non solicitation clauses or restrictive covenants.

ACAS have a free helpline that you can call regarding employment contracts. Never call yourself not bright. Written English is obviously not your strongest skill but don’t put yourself down ever.

I didn't understand a word of that.

I’m not entirely sure what you’re asking but I feel like you might be wanting to work directly with this company as a self employed cleaner as you are leaving the cleaning company that currently holds the contract?

If this is the case, this puts you on dodgy ground with the cleaning company. It’s their contract and there will be clauses in your employment contract to prevent you from doing this.

I think there are laws around companies hiring ‘self employed’ cleaners. As you miss out on all the benefits that go with being employed so I don’t think it will be possible for them to do this. Can’t you go directly to the clients you currently clean for?

I’m as confused as everyone else but I’m leaning towards thinking that op is not talking about stealing a client from her employer as she was saying that she was feeling valued and happy working for the cleaning company so I don’t think she’s on about doing the dirty on them.

I think it’s what other pp have said and she is going self employed in order to have her own business but still wants to do a few hours for the cleaning company but as a self employed contractor with the freedom of not being their employee so she can choose her own hours and because they think well of her they are likely to agree to this, that’s how I’m reading it anyway?

If that’s correct then they CAN hire you as a contractor on a self employed basis but make sure you ask for a higher hourly rate to compensate for self employed status ie not getting the employment benefits that you had before.

If I have that wrong and it’s about poaching clients from then, well of course you can’t do that, it’s very unethical and if you’ve been happy with them they will never give you a job again if they found out you’d been stealing from them.

I still think it’s the former though and if so, please value yourself, the cleaning company certainly have valued you and welcomed you into their teams, so you know you are a great asset to them I think they’ll agree! Make sure to get your own insurance as a contractor though as theirs may only cover employees and don’t forget now you are responsible for the liabilities that they used to be liable for!

Other than that, I’d say definitely ask them! It could be a good collaboration, they’ll keep supplying you with extra work and so you won’t need to advertise and hustle as much, and they still get your good cleaning services! Win/win!