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Being sued by a disgruntled former nanny

166 replies

Angeldust99 · 30/06/2024 15:33

Has this happened to anyone else? It seems like everywhere I turn, I hear stories of disgruntled former employees suing their employers for money - often on made up grounds. It’s scary!

OP posts:
Barney16 · 30/06/2024 18:03

You can't sack someone because they are pregnant. It's a protected characteristic so illegal.

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 18:04

BIWI · 30/06/2024 18:01

@Removingthehat

Your own words:

we decided to let her go she hadn’t even told us yet she was pregnant so we got away with it

Lies. Despicable.

Yes that’s fair. I was going PT anyway we would have kept her on if she had sorted out her timekeeping as well

IHateWasps · 30/06/2024 18:05

I don’t care what your pathetic excuse is. You and your husband are entirely in the wrong and I hope that at some point when you most need it that you receive as little sympathy and accommodation as you have to your poor Nanny.

Whitesky75 · 30/06/2024 18:05

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 30/06/2024 17:15

Wow. What shitty people you and your husband are.

Why are they shitty people? If I were hiring a nanny to look after my kids, I want someone who can be 100% present and productive. Pregnancy brings a lot of unknowns into the situation. Unexpected appointments, time off, morning sickness etc. I’m hiring a nanny because I need that support. Do I hire another nanny to fill in when this pregnant nanny is unavailable ? Why do I have to deal with the consequences of someone’s personal choices?

Certain jobs are not suitable for pregnant women. As an employer, I have a right to choose who I employ.

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 18:06

Barney16 · 30/06/2024 18:03

You can't sack someone because they are pregnant. It's a protected characteristic so illegal.

We were able to say we didn’t know, she hadn’t told us it was only because I’d seen her. At that time I was just thinking of Ds and we decided to sack her for the other reasons mentioned. She tried to say she had told us about her pregnancy but we were able to honestly say that wasn’t the case we had given her written warnings about the lateness as well and it was true that I was going PT so it went in our favour . I’m not proud of it I’m just showing there’s sometimes another side to things and she was deceitful

Hoppinggreen · 30/06/2024 18:07

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 17:18

Because we needed a long term nanny to care for our SEN child and to bond with him and she had volunteered the information she wouldnt be having kids herself for a while which turned out to be a lie. It would have been so much disruption plus Ds needed a lot of carrying etc she wouldn’t have been able to keep up with the physical demands yet we would have had to accommodate that ?

Edited

Unlike most people on here I don't blame you, I would have done the same.
You had to put your child first and if she was pg then she was not going to be as effective, its not like you were a large company who had someone who could cover her Mat leave so you would have been looking for a Temp or replacement within a matter of months

Zinzinner · 30/06/2024 18:07

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 17:16

Well in hindsight it was strange she offered the information that she wouldn’t be having children herself for a few years so could really get to know Ds and be a constant in his life as we were discussing his SEN. We would never have asked that kind of thing. She had started off really well but after a couple of weeks was late and other issues so it was probably a good thing for everyone , I just feel lucky I saw her . She tried to say we sacked her due to her pregnancy but we said we didn’t know we had sacked her due to poor timekeeping and the fact that I went PT and we no longer needed her for childcare

god, this is disgraceful.

twodowntwotogo · 30/06/2024 18:07

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 17:08

one tried years ago with us. We had interviewed and found the perfect candidate and we needed long term stability for Ds (SEN) and she had volunteered the information that she didn’t want dc herself for a few years so we thought it would be perfect. She started and 8 weeks later I had an appt and happened to see her leave the maternity unit (my appt was gynae so next door department). She was holding a folder (It must have been her booking appt). I spoke to Dh and we decided to let her go she hadn’t even told us yet she was pregnant so we got away with it and swiftly employed the other baby who we had also interviewed

Wow - such awful behaviour on your part. If you were in salaried employment would you be happy to be fired because your employer thought you were pregnant?

Epicaricacy · 30/06/2024 18:08

Barney16 · 30/06/2024 18:03

You can't sack someone because they are pregnant. It's a protected characteristic so illegal.

no, but women can't play the pregnancy card to avoid being sacked either. Contrary to what some people believe.

preggegg · 30/06/2024 18:08

@Removingthehat Funny you are so against her 'lying',when that's exactly what you did!

Maybe she thought she wouldn't be able to fall pregnant, maybe it wasn't a lie at all.

Awful for admitting what you did so smugly!

Beekeepingmum · 30/06/2024 18:09

Whitesky75 · 30/06/2024 18:05

Why are they shitty people? If I were hiring a nanny to look after my kids, I want someone who can be 100% present and productive. Pregnancy brings a lot of unknowns into the situation. Unexpected appointments, time off, morning sickness etc. I’m hiring a nanny because I need that support. Do I hire another nanny to fill in when this pregnant nanny is unavailable ? Why do I have to deal with the consequences of someone’s personal choices?

Certain jobs are not suitable for pregnant women. As an employer, I have a right to choose who I employ.

Er no you don't not for protected characteristics. You have to act within in the law. I think this thread shows why many employers of nannies are being sued!

dammit88 · 30/06/2024 18:09

Angeldust99 · 30/06/2024 15:33

Has this happened to anyone else? It seems like everywhere I turn, I hear stories of disgruntled former employees suing their employers for money - often on made up grounds. It’s scary!

What are you being sued for?

IHateWasps · 30/06/2024 18:11

and she was deceitful

You were far more deceitful and you have no idea of her circumstances and you seem pretty pleased with yourselves over it considering that you’ve pretty much boasted about it all over this thread.

viques · 30/06/2024 18:11

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 17:16

Well in hindsight it was strange she offered the information that she wouldn’t be having children herself for a few years so could really get to know Ds and be a constant in his life as we were discussing his SEN. We would never have asked that kind of thing. She had started off really well but after a couple of weeks was late and other issues so it was probably a good thing for everyone , I just feel lucky I saw her . She tried to say we sacked her due to her pregnancy but we said we didn’t know we had sacked her due to poor timekeeping and the fact that I went PT and we no longer needed her for childcare

So you lied?

Lavenderflower · 30/06/2024 18:11

Sacking someone because they are pregnant is not cool.

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 18:13

preggegg · 30/06/2024 18:08

@Removingthehat Funny you are so against her 'lying',when that's exactly what you did!

Maybe she thought she wouldn't be able to fall pregnant, maybe it wasn't a lie at all.

Awful for admitting what you did so smugly!

She was late multiple times and I was going PT so no, we didn’t lie. We just decided rather than waiting we would sack her once I’d seen her at the hospital as knew it would be impossible once she had formally told us of her pregnancy.

OnceICaughtACold · 30/06/2024 18:14

Seriously @Removingthehat you honestly believe that you simultaneously fired her because she was pregnant but that wasn’t the reason, don’t you? That’s quite some knot you’ve tied yourself in to. It is very clear that you fired her purely because she was pregnant, and that you think that because you got away with it, that’s ok.

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 18:14

It was 8.5 years ago now , I only posted as people don’t always see both sides of things like this

Beekeepingmum · 30/06/2024 18:14

Epicaricacy · 30/06/2024 18:08

no, but women can't play the pregnancy card to avoid being sacked either. Contrary to what some people believe.

But that wasn't the case. In this case the nanny was sacked because she was at the maturity unit with a folder. She might have been pregnant, she might have had a miscarriage in recent months, she may have been having an abortion. This is exactly the type of case the unfair dismissal rules are there to protect. What if you were sacked because you put on a bit of weight and happened to be sick a few mornings and the employer decided you might be pregnant. It is horrible behaviour.

DinnaeFashYersel · 30/06/2024 18:16

If you are a good employer and followed employment law then you've nothing to worry about.

OnceICaughtACold · 30/06/2024 18:16

Whitesky75 · 30/06/2024 18:05

Why are they shitty people? If I were hiring a nanny to look after my kids, I want someone who can be 100% present and productive. Pregnancy brings a lot of unknowns into the situation. Unexpected appointments, time off, morning sickness etc. I’m hiring a nanny because I need that support. Do I hire another nanny to fill in when this pregnant nanny is unavailable ? Why do I have to deal with the consequences of someone’s personal choices?

Certain jobs are not suitable for pregnant women. As an employer, I have a right to choose who I employ.

Which jobs do not require their staff to be 100% present and productive? I bet you’d have had something to say if your employer had sacked you due to the uncertainties involved in you being pregnant.

There is a particular horror in women who are/have recently been pregnant thinking it’s ok to sack others for exactly the same thing.

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 18:16

OnceICaughtACold · 30/06/2024 18:14

Seriously @Removingthehat you honestly believe that you simultaneously fired her because she was pregnant but that wasn’t the reason, don’t you? That’s quite some knot you’ve tied yourself in to. It is very clear that you fired her purely because she was pregnant, and that you think that because you got away with it, that’s ok.

You’re correct - absolutely. But we didn’t lie we used the real circumstances and she wasn’t aware we knew of her pregnancy at that point. She tried to say we did know but there was zero proof of that as she hadn’t. The proof there was showed repeated warnings about lateness and the proof that I was going down to 4 days a week

BMW6 · 30/06/2024 18:17

dammit88 · 30/06/2024 18:09

What are you being sued for?

I wonder if the Nanny was sacked because of pregnancy.........OP has gone v quiet.........

DinnaeFashYersel · 30/06/2024 18:17

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 17:08

one tried years ago with us. We had interviewed and found the perfect candidate and we needed long term stability for Ds (SEN) and she had volunteered the information that she didn’t want dc herself for a few years so we thought it would be perfect. She started and 8 weeks later I had an appt and happened to see her leave the maternity unit (my appt was gynae so next door department). She was holding a folder (It must have been her booking appt). I spoke to Dh and we decided to let her go she hadn’t even told us yet she was pregnant so we got away with it and swiftly employed the other baby who we had also interviewed

Shameful behaviour by you and completely illegal.

Removingthehat · 30/06/2024 18:18

If I hadn’t known she was pregnant I’d probably have persevered with the warnings about lateness but once we knew we just thought it would be so disruptive for Ds to get more attached to her and her being unable to carry him etc that we decided to act immediately