Can you claim pip and carers allowance at the same time?

[Lemoncakelemon]

Can you claim pip and carers allowance at the same time?

yes.

Thankyou

Yes but with UC you are penalised for it I believe

I would be careful here, if the caring would contradict the reasons you are awarded PIP. Maybe get advice first.

How so?

Yes you have to be very careful that you don't contradict yourself.

It’s deducted pound for pound from your award. It’s still worth claiming for some people as it will mean you get reduced job hunting commitments etc.

@Abitorangelooking yes but they get the £190 odd carers element so works out okay.

You can but if they contridict they'll stop your pip. It's fine if say you care for someone with learning difficulties or MH yet your physically disabled or vice visa.

@Abitorangelooking

It’s deducted pound for pound from your award.

OP was asking about claiming PIP and carers, the UC pound for pound has nothing to do with that. You made it sound as if you would be penalised for claiming carers if you get PIP

i suppose it would depend on why you get PiP. alhough its not unknown.. my sister and her partner both have the full rate of PiP and they are both each others carer's... i have no idea how this works as she is supposed to have mobility issues and cannot sit/stand/walk etch for long periods... and he is 32 stone, cannot get up off the bed and cannot walk, so how they alledgely take care of each other i have no idea

Sounds as if you don't like them very much. They clearly need some form of help so if not having carers in then they must do things for each other -

Maybe she helps to bathe him, and has to cook his meals, which she could do using ready meals etc, so no long standing around, at the stove. If you are even vaguely interested, you could, you know ask her how she manages things. She is your sister after all.

its not that i dont like them.. i just know they are claiming benefits fraudulently... on paper they appear to have issues, but i've seen the pair of them skipping about! but im not getting into that, i'm simply saying YES its clearly possible to get both

And how is he able to be her carer?

she doesnt bath him, he can bath himself. he does the cooking.. they are always out and about on day trips here there and everywhere. neither one using the sticks and mobility aids they claim to need.

yes i do sound bitter.. but sadly i know they are claiming benefits they are not really entitled too and thats a shame for others.

She could have bad mental health, and need prompting to eat, take medication, wash etc. Maybe her 32 stone husband provides that sort of help, in between "skipping about".

good lord.... i shall leave you too your thoughts and ideas. there are people out there who claim benefits and are not entitiled too them, but they know the systems so well they abuse it.

i've not said once the OP is not entitled, i've given an example of where a couple receive both pip and carers allowance for each other.. so it is possible! i simply do not agree with it!

if you can't care for yourself, then how do you care for someone else?

He could not move from his bed, according to your earlier post. Or is that what he is saying on claim forms? Either way, there is no point being bitter about it. That achieves nothing.

yes.. they claim on paper all these things they cannot do.. but they do them! i am bitter because i work and pay my taxes and it goes towards their fraud! thats why im bitter but thats a whole other post

The Carers Allowance claim form does not ask for any details about the care provided, apart from “do you provide care for at least 35 hours a week”

I'd grass them up if I were you!

Ok, you feel how you feel, but as has been pointed out on many threads, about PIP, the assessors don't just take a person's word for it. They have to have medical evidence to back up what they are saying. Even then it is not a given that they will be awarded anything. I have no idea if that applies to Carers Allowance as well though.

That care can include being the person who always has to be around to call for help if their partner falls or has a fit, even if they can't lift them, themselves.

Benefit Adviser here - PIP look at what activities you are doing not what benefits you claim, so if you are caring, go ahead and claim Carer's Allowance. It will protect your National insurance stamp, you do get NI protection with child benefit up to the age of 12.

Carer's Allowance is deducted from UC, but you need to report you are a carer to UC and you will receive the caring element. You aren't penalised, you receive the same amount, just from a different source.

I would always recommend Carer's Allowance for the NI protection alone.