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Car seat help for the clueless

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fairgame84 · 31/01/2023 15:50

I need a car seat for 4 month old DD. She's currently in her Noordi carry seat that came as a bundle with the pram.

DS is 18 so I'm aware that things have changed since I was at this stage with him and I'm so confused reading all of the info online and taking in advice from other people.

I have a 2007 plate clio which is isofix compatible.
We need a seat that we can transfer between my crappy clio and DHs car when he gets one.
My car is a 3 door and lots of people have said to get a spin seat but I managed fine getting DS out of a fixed seat. Having said that he was front facing from 9 months and I'm aware they have to rear face now so maybe spinning is better.
My car is only small and DS and DH are both tall so if they are in the front seat and we've got a car seat in the back, they still need a bit of legroom.
I've been looking at the cosatto spinning seat but another mum has told me they aren't great and I need a joie car seat; she has the joie every stage one.

Budget is up to £300.

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gogohmm · 31/01/2023 15:53

Take the smaller car to a shop where you can try them out - they need to be able to fit, to be installed properly, and extended rear facing seats are not safer if not properly installed, an issue with some small cars. You probably have a few months to research what fits your model

BertieBotts · 31/01/2023 21:46

There is nothing magic about Joie/awful about cosatto - Joie do some good features for cheap prices, that's all - sounds like she's been on Facebook, some of the groups are a bit fanatical about brands in a way that starts to get a bit nonsensical.

Though I agree the cosatto probably isn't the best, there is nothing terribly wrong with them either. But for £300, you have better options. In general, those seats that do every stage are a false economy and you're better off just getting something covering the current stage and then changing to a proper booster later on. (Not to mention, she might like jumping rainbow unicorns at 2, but is much less likely to want to use that seat once she is a much cooler 7, 8, + year old).

As you have a small car, I would not recommend the Every Stage as it's huge, especially when rear facing. And it's got a poor rating if you use it forward facing, so it's only really good as a rear facing seat and it's quite expensive for the basic rear facing seat that it is. If you want a basic rear facing seat, you can get one much cheaper.

Spin seats in 3 door cars sound like a good idea, but I'd try them out first to see how practical it really is. One issue can be the placement of the button which releases the spin capability. Joie 360 Spin for example is very popular due to its price, but the button to release the spin is between the child's legs - this is no use at all if you want to easily be able to reach it from the front, you need one with a button on the base of the seat or on the side.

Off the top of my head under £300 that's

Joie i-Spin 360
Britax Dualfix (all versions)
Maxi Cosi Mica

The second thing you want to check is whether it can even spin with the child facing into the car - they are designed to spin with the child facing the "door". We used to have a Suzuki Swift, 5 door, but one day we were in a car wash and tried to turn DS2 to see us and the back of the seat protrudes out so much that it would not physically turn past the window. Once they are past 8/9 months their feet stick out the edge of the seat, so you wouldn't want to be turning it that way as it would bash her feet into the wall. So definitely do a fit check before you buy a spin seat. It seems like a perfect solution, but might not actually be that practical. Lastly, check if you can even swivel it to the forward facing position with the headrest in position for a younger child - some have a locking mechanism tied to this, to prevent you forward facing too early.

If you decided to get a non spin seat, to use a rear facing seat you would usually put the front seat forwards, hold the child on your lap and sit in the back middle seat to place them in their seat, then climb out again. Or sometimes you can put them in through the boot (!) but that seems like it would be annoying.

In terms of other rear facing options, you can get a basic rear facing seat from Joie/Graco (Joie's parent company bought Graco a few years ago and use their branding, they aren't the same as the old Graco seats) for about £100. The main complaint about these is that the seatbelt path for them means the seatbelt is in the way of the door - but - in a 3 door car, you would get them in and out from the opposite side. I have actually done this as our travel seat fits like this, and it's fine. These are lighter and easier to transfer between cars than the spin seats, but they are quite reclined and don't have a lot of leg room for the child.

Or the "gold standard" for rear facing seats is probably a Swedish type seat - these are unusual so you probably won't have seen them, but they are also fitted with seatbelt, along with tethering to the front seat. To move these easily between cars, you simply buy a second set of tethers and install those in the second car. Once the tethers are fitted, you just plug them into the seat like a seatbelt.

You've got 3 options under £300:
Britax Max Way
Axkid Minikid 2
Axkid Move

These can be more comfortable because they fit compactly and they sit more upright and are designed with older children in mind so have much more leg space as well as growing space up to approx 125cm (this is a good couple of years longer than the standard, 105cm/equivalent to old Group 1 seats - if your son is tall, you may have found him outgrowing younger than you would have liked.) The "downsides" (some may disagree!) are they are only rear facing - no option to change to forward facing, until you buy the next seat, and you wouldn't be able to use them yet, because these are like the old Group 1 type seats in that the child needs to be at least 9kg, sitting unaided and at least about 80cm tall, because they only have a very minimal recline, not a full recline like a baby seat. So you'd need to stick to the baby seat until she outgrows it. There are seats in this category that can be used from younger, but they cost more than £300.

You might want to consider 2 different seats as moving toddler seats can be a bit of a pain.

fairgame84 · 01/02/2023 08:42

Thankyou so much @BertieBotts that's really helpful.
My original thinking was to do a toddler seat and then a child seat like I did with DS. We did the carry seat, then a Britax group 0/1 and then the Graco that I think every child born in that era had at some point!

I think the all stages seat will be too bulky in a hatchback for an older child.

I'm hoping DH will pass his test this month and then if he gets a car we can narrow down a seat that will work with both cars. It might be wiser to get 2 seats because it's not safe to keep transferring, especially a belted seat. There's too much risk of DH not strapping it in properly, even with an isofix 🙄

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BertieBotts · 01/02/2023 10:32

Yes I remember the Graco :) They are actually still around, but I'd go for something more up to date when the time comes. The Graco one is showing its age. The Britax First Class is probably what you had, this is also still available (just about), it's an OK option if you want to rear face up to 13kg and then forward face, but the spin type seats and Joie seats allow rear facing all the way up to 18kg/105cm, which is preferred now.

It is definitely worth getting a separate high backed booster later. The other thing that has changed as well as there being more combination seats now is that the age when it's considered safe to change to a booster seat using the seatbelt has increased - if your son was tall, he probably outgrew his Group 1 seat around 3 or so? These days most people prefer to keep their children in a 5 point harness type seat until at least 4 if not older. If your DD is likely to be tall as well, you might want to bear that in mind. The modern equivalent to Group 1 is a seat up to 105cm. If you follow along in her red book you can guess when she will get to that height. If it's before 4, then you might want to look more seriously at the longer lasting/Swedish type 25kg limit rear facing seats. Otherwise, keep in mind the fact that you might need to buy a larger harnessed seat after she grows out of the spin type one.

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