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Talk me through toddler car seats!

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ShangPie · 13/04/2021 04:50

Looking for some help with a suitable car seat for a toddler. I am moving back to the UK after a decade away, and now have a toddler in tow, so have to learn all about kids stuff in the UK.

Where we live now, we don’t have a car so use a Japanese brand super-light travel seat for short taxi rides:
www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Nihonikuji-Child-Seat-Travel-Vest/dp/B00RD3AA8O

It clips in using the seatbelt, so I am guessing that it’s totally illegal in the UK? What kind of thing should we be using?

DS (2.5) is used to facing forwards, so is it feasible to have this or do we have to go rear-facing? Stupid question time - does a spinning seat offer front and rear facing, or is it just for getting the kid in?

We don’t have a car yet, but will be buying a 5 door car when we get home (that’s another post for another day!) We will leave the car seat installed so no need to move it about.

Cost is not a massive issue. I prefer to buy the right one now that can grow with him until he gets to a booster seat later.

So much to think about 🤔 Any help is very much appreciated 🙏🏻

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 13/04/2021 05:30

He needs a seat with a built in harness until he is 4. The seat itself can be strapped into the car using the seatbelt.

Britax is a good brand, I'd suggest looking at them.

Once he is 4 he can go into a high backed booster (the same seat but no additional straps).

That one you linked would definetly not be legal in the UK. I cant see what protection it offers?

JamMakingWannaBe · 13/04/2021 05:40

Most new cars have ISOFIX which are metal brackets attached to the frame into which you attached the car seat. All car seats on the market will offer the same safety standards so then it's a choice of looks and design. Look for a model that grows with your child as you still need a booster seat up to age 12.

teaandlotusbiscoff · 13/04/2021 20:51

Hi Smile yes as others say, a seat with a harness until he’s four would be ideal. Do you know what centile he’s on/if he’s big for his age? As if he is it can be more worthwhile to invest in a 25kg seat. Most harnessed seats go up to 18kg though there are some on the market that harness up to 25kg (average 7 year old).

Yes it would be possible for him to go forward facing, though rear facing is safer. A spin seat would be a good one as he can try rear facing and if he doesn’t like it can go forward facing (if it isn’t a RF only one!). These tend to be isofix only though.

Isofix can make the seat easier to install, as they’re two metal prongs that click into two bars under the seat of the car. Most cars after 2004 have isofix and after 2013 for top tether, which helps to stabilise the seat and is useful in forward facing only seats. In harness seats they’re used to keep the seat in the car and some high back booster have options but that’s to keep the seat stable in the car and so DC doesn’t push it over the seatbelt and stops it being a projectile in a crash as it can be a bit of a faff to strap it back in! Generally it’s safer to buy one car seat for up to ~4 years old then a separate high backed booster. I’d stick to the well known brands, Joie, Nuna, Cybex, Britax and Maxi Cosi as non-branded ones (Nania/Team Tex) are cheaply made and don’t do as well in crash tests as they’re only crash tested to the legal minimum whereas the other aforementioned brands test higher

Good forward facing seats
Britax Duo Plus, is both seatbelt and isofix
Britax Trifix 2 - isofix and top tether only
Maxi Cosi Tobi - seatbelt only
Britax king - seatbelt only

Spin car seats
Britax Dualfix 2R - I rather like this one as it’s reasonably priced and scores well on safety
Joie Spin 360 - also reasonably priced and very popular, though in safety doesnt do too well on side impact
Joie i-spin 360 - like the regular 360 but i-size. Does better on safety and has a different rotation mechanism which IMO is easier. Though as it’s i-size it is somewhat restricting in high, as once DC reaches 105 centimetre they can no longer use it. Eg if long legged and short torso at 105cm while physically they may be able to fit in the shell as they’re over the height limit it can no longer be used!
Britax Dualfix i-size/i-size M. The m edition is cheaper as it doesn’t have a newborn insert so not suitable from birth, though obviously not relevant unless you’re planning DC2 and don’t want to use an infant carrier.

Cybex Sirona - there are many variants of this. There is the S which remains attached to the base, the Sirona M isn’t a spin seat though is modular (uses same base for two stages of car seat), then there’s the Z which is a modular seat and takes the infant carrier too on the base (Cloud Z). This could be useful if switching car seat between cars if you have one base in each car you only have to take the seat unit off instead of the whole seat out the car. Though combined is very expensive

Maxi Cosi have a 360 family too, the 360 Pearl which is rather new to the market. Like the Sirona Z can be detached from the base and is a modular seat. Though unless you plan to have DC2 when DC1 is around 3-4 it probably wouldn’t be worth it.
Maxi Cosi also have more seats that swivel—the axissfix which can only rear face to 87cm, the Axiss which is seatbelt installed and forward facing only. There’s also the Mica which can both rear and forward face up to 105cm as it’s an i-size seat.

GB Vaya which is very similar to Cybex Sirona S.

Nuna Rebl is also rather popular option

Britax are also bringing out a new car seat in May that they’ve said is “the biggest car seat innovation of 2021” so might be worth waiting for as they do rather premium seats.

Phew, I think I’ve covered everything 😅

BertieBotts · 17/04/2021 11:42

If you are going forward facing, 100% go for Britax or Maxi Cosi, and preferably one of their isofix ones.

Up to 18kg the best is Britax Trifix 2. If you want one that converts to booster, Britax Advansafix IV or Advansafix i-size are good choices.

If you won't have top tether, look at Britax Dualfix, this is a spinning one.

The only issue with the spinning seats that also rear face is they tend to be pitched quite far forwards in the car. If you only want to forward face, Maxi Cosi Axiss is worth a look as it belts in, rotates to the side and has a decent safety rating.

Maxi Cosi Tobi is a great budget option.

And if you want the gold standard in forward facing, it's Maxi Cosi Axissfix Air - that also spins, however it's about £500!!

I think the new Britax just has lights in and spins 🤷‍♀️ not a bad idea but a lot of manufacturers are doing this now. It's also a modular set so aimed more at parents of newborns. Once you're already in the toddler stage it makes sense to get a seat that has the base built in rather than one that needs the base separately.

1983Roxy · 07/05/2021 20:29

Halfords have a Batman car seat in at present, not sure of make but it is very sturdy and can be transferred from car to car.

Sagaris · 07/05/2021 20:35

@1983Roxy

Halfords have a Batman car seat in at present, not sure of make but it is very sturdy and can be transferred from car to car.
Those seats are not recommended, they are tested to the legal minimum and don't to very well in crash tests. Much better to stick to well known brands like Britax, Maxi Cosi etc, who do their own in house testing above the legal limit.
Madwomanuptheroad29 · 07/05/2021 20:47

For a toddler I would buy one of the kiddy seats. Of all the forward facing seats they usually perform amongst the best in the way they protect the child and prevent injuries. The ones with integrated belts are holding the head in a far more rigid position and due to the fact that the head is proportionally much bigger and heavier than on an adult, this can cause severe injury in a crash when it is propelled forward in a crash.
The cushion/ table thing that holds the child in takes a wee while to get used to but once child realised there is no choice it is okay. My daughter also seemed to sleep in it okay - ours was not reversible.
As child is older it becomes a high backed booster that grows not only on height bit also width.
My kids found it far more comfortable than Britax and maxi Cosi high backed boosters I had for the much older ones.
Also fairly escape proof.
For us it was the only acceptable alternative to rearfacing in a small car.
We had etc seats since 1999/2000 so I have looked into it in detail.

teaandlotusbiscoff · 07/05/2021 20:57

Halfords have a Batman car seat in at present, not sure of make but it is very sturdy and can be transferred from car to car

Wouldn’t recommend one like this at all. Does poorly in safety testing and actually fell apart at a crash test of 40mph!

Madwomanuptheroad29 · 07/05/2021 21:01

This is where I bought all my car seats since the mid nineties. Tried once to buy a set in Halfords but when they were fitting it it had buckle crunch and they tried to tell me that did not matter. Did not buy seat and never went back!
incarsafetycentre.co.uk/safety-centre/independent-consumer-testing

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