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Cybex Cloud Z vs Maxi-Cosi?

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katekane · 04/08/2020 14:12

Hi, looking for some advice on a newborn car seat.

We live in central London and don't own a car ourselves, so need something that can be installed with a seatbelt. Car seat will be used for the ff in first year:

  1. Taking baby home from hospital in Uber/taxi/hire car
  2. Occasional Ubers/Taxis as needed (we don't take them frequently but it would be nice to have the option)
  3. Travel -- between 4-6 months baby will probably travel to at least 2 other countries (to meet great-grandparents and extended family) where we'll have to be in a car ride home from the airport, plus a little bit of car travel around town as needed. So ideally we'd like something reasonably lightweight.

    I like the look of the Cybex Cloud Z, the lie-flat feature seems handy in case baby falls asleep on the trip and we want to let them nap for a bit after getting back to house/hotel. Would love to hear any feedback re: ease of belt installation.

    However, based on what I've read it's not i-Size rated if it's not installed with the Isofix base so I'm wondering if I should opt for something else? I don't fully understand i-Size and all the other safety ratings so not sure if seats are just considered less safe without a base. I've been eyeing other people's baby gear (from a responsible social distance of course) whenever I'm outside lately and it seems like a lot of people have Maxi-Cosi car seats, and the Pebble Pro also looks nice... any advice greatly appreciated :)
OP posts:
teaandlotusbiscoff · 04/08/2020 16:42

The cloud only reclines to 140° so you would still have to abide with the 2 hour car seat rule.

The only reason it isn’t i-size when seatbelt installed is because i-size requires isofix (as it makes it less likely to be incorrectly installed), doesn’t mean it’s less safe. IIRC you can sometimes get a better fit as some cars have sloped seats so isofix can be rigid and make the seat too upright.

The cloud can last until ~18 months while the pebble says it only lasts until ~12 months, but actually even bigger babies can fit in the maxi Cosi infant carriers until 15ish months as they’re huge!

I have heard things about the cloud not being lightweight although when I carried it I found it fine. The pebble pro is also great, especially with the newborn insert. The maxi Cosi adaptors for pushchairs are actually universal so can fit both car seats on. Smile

BertieBotts · 04/08/2020 16:51

I'd get neither as a non driver. You need a seat which you can fit with seatbelt and is lightweight and preferably can fit onto a buggy. The next stage up is a pain in the neck as a non driver so you want a seat which will last as long as possible.

The cloud Z isn't less safe on the base - i-size is to do with fitting, not safety. The safety part is the new regulation R129 which i-size is a part of. The seat has been tested to this and won't magically lose side impact protection when not on a base :) the reason I don't recommend the cloud z is that it's very heavy. The pebble is a nice seat but has a low height limit, about 75cm, so won't last you very long.

I would look at:
Venicci Ultralite (rebrand of Avionaut Pixel for UK Market)
Maxi cosi Citi/Cabriofix

Both lightweight, long lasting options which fit with seatbelt and will go on a pushchair (maxi cosi adapters) if you need them to.

katekane · 04/08/2020 17:35

@teaandlotusbiscoff @BertieBotts

Thanks so much, I was hoping you'd weigh in as I've seen your super helpful replies in other threads :) I'd actually seen the Ultralite but thought it could only be used with a base for some reason, will def be checking that and the other Maxi-Cosi seats out!

OP posts:
teaandlotusbiscoff · 04/08/2020 17:39

No problem Grin although there is another lightweight one which is good (sorry to add if it confuses youBlush) but the joie i-snug is another good, lightweight seat to look at Smile

BertieBotts · 04/08/2020 19:52

I-snug has a low height limit as well so I would not recommend that for a non driver. It is a nice seat though :)

I have just double checked and the Venicci seat can be fitted with a seatbelt, it's the first thing that's in the manual. Generally any blue guides on a seat are there for rear facing seatbelt routing, and I thought I had spotted those, but the manual is another way to check.

The Citi and Cabriofix are the same seat - the only difference is the Cabriofix is also compatible with Maxi Cosi bases whereas the Citi is designed for non-drivers (it's more popular in other European countries) and isn't compatible with any base. Citi is a little bit cheaper but Cabriofix is more widely known and available.

Mulner88 · 06/05/2023 09:09

Hi, I know this is an old thread but myself and my husband are both in this exact situation as you were OP. Living in central London and just needing a car seat for travelling in taxis and other peoples cars etc. I'm just wondering what you opted for in the end as we were also thinking about these two options.

BertieBotts · 06/05/2023 18:35

@Mulner88 just to update the advice upthread, the maxi Cosi cabriofix has been retired now, the cabriofix i-size is one of the ones with a smaller height limit so not as useful.

In the same situation today I'd add to look at Cybex Aton S. That's a relatively lower cost, good safety, light, fits many prams and long lasting.

Also Britax infant seats released after 2022 have the buggy compatibility and they are really worth a look too. A bit more pricey but lovely to use and they belt in nicely. The new Baby-Safe 5Z is very popular, I haven't seen it myself yet.

Mulner88 · 07/05/2023 10:26

@BertieBotts thanks so much for your reply. I'll have a look into these ☺️

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