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Not losing weight despite massively cutting back

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Morgun · 28/09/2025 13:45

Can anyone analyse what I’m eating and tell me where I’m going wrong? I’ve cut back so much yet the scales are not shifting. I’m 5ft 8 and 16st

breakfast - porridge oats, 2 slices of wholemeal toast with low fat spread, a fat free yogurt and a banana

lunch - pasta salad with a wholemeal roll and a packet of low calorie crisps.

Aftetnoon snack - apple, nuts and sometimes a fat free yogurt but not always

dinner - homemade spaghetti bolognese (wholemeal spaghetti), 2 small slices of garlic baguette, a weight watchers mouse and a piece of fruit

evening snack - a couple of biscuits

this is far less than I used to eat yet the scales are not budging. I’m being told to cut down further but I can’t see what else I can do, I’m struggling as it is.

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Smallsalt · 28/09/2025 17:04

Woompund · 28/09/2025 17:01

No, someone else did! You replied to my reply to someone else, arguing a point that nobody made. Give it a rest eh?

That's the internet for you. People say stuff.
I mean feel free to stop replying......

Cardemomle · 28/09/2025 17:05

Baninarama · 28/09/2025 16:53

As has been said, you need to add in more fat and protein - you'll feel a lot more full and for longer.

Breakfast: try making overnight oats with 45g oats, almond milk, two teaspoons of peanut butter, a teaspoon of cocoa powder, half a mashed banana and some protein powder. Very filling.

For lunch, ditch the pasta - have avocado on toast or some leaves, a chicken breast, mixed seeds and other salad veg.

Dinner: steak and roast vegetables or something like marry me chicken and rice.

It's fine to have snacks, but make that yogurt greek and ditch the nasty weight watchers and fat free products. Cut up the apple and dip it in nut butter.

You'll feel much more full from that - carbs get processed very quickly and leave you hungry again.

What is "marry me chicken and rice"?

GoodOldTrayBake · 28/09/2025 17:06

This can’t be real. You’re basically eating 7 meals a day and wondering why you’re not losing weight?

SlowestHorse · 28/09/2025 17:06

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 16:45

I think counting calories is a sheer waste of time and energy.

If you stick to protein, dairy, fruit and veg , with a small amount of wholegrains, perhaps at one or two meals, you will lose weight.

3 meals a day, no snacks, no biscuits, no crisps or other empty calories.

Just use your eyes to see what's on your plate.

Edited

I can understand the sentiment and some people will just never take the time to use something like MFP, but for others it’s hugely helpful, even just until they understand better what they’re eating. Lots of people aren’t good at eyeballing a plate, and the understanding of portion size is very distorted. People also miss “hidden” calories eg how much oil is used in cooking - it doesn’t need to look like a high fat meal to have had a lot of fat used in its preparation. On hols recently with a friend and we both made scrambled eggs on toast for lunch - hers had three eggs, a huge dod of butter in it, and butter on her toast as well; mine had two eggs, 20ml milk, and no butter - literally half the calories. (and ironically I’m not the one trying to lose weight!).

usedtobeaylis · 28/09/2025 17:07

Calorie counting absolutely isn't a waste of time. If you don't know how many calories you're actually consuming it's a valuable tool. It doesn't mean it's suitable for everyone as a consistent weight loss tool but where you need to create a deficit, of course you need to know what's going in.

tipsyraven · 28/09/2025 17:07

Winter2020 · 28/09/2025 15:31

Hi OP,
I think calories wise your new diet is probably just maintaining your weight, while you were probably slowly gaining with your old diet.

I noticed you said that you feel you can't cut down much more as you are struggling as it is. I heard some interesting information the other day (I think I was listening to an episode of diary of a CEO). The person said when a group of people some overweight and some not overweight ate fat and protein (in a study) their bodies produced a similar GLP1 reaction - this would help them to feel satisfied. When the same group ate carbohydrates the slender people released GLP1 but the overweight people not so much - so the carbs were less satisfying to the overweight people.

A simple illustration of protein v carb eaten was given as - imagine that there are 70 calories in both an oreo cookie and a boiled egg. What is going to be more challenging to eat - eating 30 oreo cookies or 30 boiled eggs? Protein and fat are what will fill you up.

You don't need to give up carbs but you do need to be in a calorie defecit - and it is protein (and to a lesser extent fat) that will satiate you and help you to be in that calorie defecit.

I would suggest a diet something like:
2 slices toast/olive spread with 2/3 scrambled eggs or
2 slices toast/olive spread with 1 medium 1avocado mashed
(thats 500 calories odd)

Lunch
Shop bought pasta salad e.g. chicken/prawn/tuna (400 cals)
Add a full tin of tuna or packet of chicken (100cal)
(500 cal)

Dinner
Small portion of your ordinary dinner with more protein less carb
e.g. spag bol, small portion spaghetti
(600 cal)
100 cals for a treat such as yogurt or small choc portion.

100 cals for 250ml of skimmed milk to drink or put in tea each day (for calcium)

= 1800 cals

Taking a good multivitamin would be wise.
Going for a brisk walk in the evening if this is possible for you will give your weight loss a boost.

There is hardly any veg there and no fruit at all.

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 28/09/2025 17:09

Cardemomle · 28/09/2025 17:05

What is "marry me chicken and rice"?

Marry Me Chicken is the name of a dish. Like Chicken Kiev or Chicken Korma. It's very nice.

Cardemomle · 28/09/2025 17:09

Why do people keep quoting the very long opening post?

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 17:11

Woompund · 28/09/2025 17:00

This sounds dangerously like intuitive eating and this doesn't work for people who binge eat or who have large appetites and/or insulin resistance. Someone who has got to 16 stone and can't see for themselves why their food consumption is causing weight gain/not leading to loss needs discipline and self education. The best way to do that is to weigh and track their food. Eyeballing it is never going to work for OP.

I agree with part of what you say but not completely.
This is because yes, there's an example of disordered eating going on.

BUT not all calories are equal. It doesn't equate to nutrition values.
You could get your 500 cals from fresh salmon, chicken or a lean lamb chop - or a Mars bar.

OP mentioned she had a Weight Watchers mousse which was probably full of artificial sugar, thickeners and God knows what else- UPF.
When she could have had a bowl of lovely plain yogurt and strawberries.

There are zillions of images on the web about this, cookery books galore, which show a healthy plate so it's a learning curve.

Counting calories mean you just count the calories- do you engage with the actual nutrients?

usedtobeaylis · 28/09/2025 17:11

SlowestHorse · 28/09/2025 17:06

I can understand the sentiment and some people will just never take the time to use something like MFP, but for others it’s hugely helpful, even just until they understand better what they’re eating. Lots of people aren’t good at eyeballing a plate, and the understanding of portion size is very distorted. People also miss “hidden” calories eg how much oil is used in cooking - it doesn’t need to look like a high fat meal to have had a lot of fat used in its preparation. On hols recently with a friend and we both made scrambled eggs on toast for lunch - hers had three eggs, a huge dod of butter in it, and butter on her toast as well; mine had two eggs, 20ml milk, and no butter - literally half the calories. (and ironically I’m not the one trying to lose weight!).

Yep. I 'knew' there were a lot of calories in mayo but I didn't know what 10g v 50g of it looked like or what it looked like as part of an overall day's calories. Apply that to multiple other foods and many of us are unintentionally eating a lot of calories and thinking we're being sensible and healthy. Add that mayo onto a baguette for example or a side of coleslaw that you also don't know the calorie content of. Eyeballing it is only possible once you've learnt what it looks like in the first place.

usedtobeaylis · 28/09/2025 17:13

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 17:11

I agree with part of what you say but not completely.
This is because yes, there's an example of disordered eating going on.

BUT not all calories are equal. It doesn't equate to nutrition values.
You could get your 500 cals from fresh salmon, chicken or a lean lamb chop - or a Mars bar.

OP mentioned she had a Weight Watchers mousse which was probably full of artificial sugar, thickeners and God knows what else- UPF.
When she could have had a bowl of lovely plain yogurt and strawberries.

There are zillions of images on the web about this, cookery books galore, which show a healthy plate so it's a learning curve.

Counting calories mean you just count the calories- do you engage with the actual nutrients?

Often when people start counting calories learning about the nutritional content is part of that journey. We can't expect people just starting it on weight loss to know all this to begin with.

TattooStan · 28/09/2025 17:14

Blimey, you're currently eating enough to feed a rugby team!

You've had lots of advice on the thread on how to cut down your intake to something more reasonable.

And you certainly want to cut back on the processed crap as it has zero nutritional benefit to your body.

Cardemomle · 28/09/2025 17:14

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 28/09/2025 17:09

Marry Me Chicken is the name of a dish. Like Chicken Kiev or Chicken Korma. It's very nice.

Oh thanks, I've never heard of it!

Londontown12 · 28/09/2025 17:15

Too much bread !!!!

MincePiesAndStilton · 28/09/2025 17:15

You’re just eating too much. Cut the snacks as a starting point. Have a cup of tea if you really need something at that time. Are you accounting for all your hot drinks? Anything with milk in counts as a snack too.

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 17:15

usedtobeaylis · 28/09/2025 17:11

Yep. I 'knew' there were a lot of calories in mayo but I didn't know what 10g v 50g of it looked like or what it looked like as part of an overall day's calories. Apply that to multiple other foods and many of us are unintentionally eating a lot of calories and thinking we're being sensible and healthy. Add that mayo onto a baguette for example or a side of coleslaw that you also don't know the calorie content of. Eyeballing it is only possible once you've learnt what it looks like in the first place.

As before- calories don't equate to quality and nutrition.

You can get 1000 cals from crap food or from healthy fresh food.

For most people that tiny bit of mayo is neither here nor there.
It's a drop in the ocean of all the other stuff they eat.

Calorie counting is restrictive eating which leads to yo-yo dieting/ eating, never taking full account of nutrition , and feeling deprived.

If you intake consists of only very simple food like protein, fruit, veg, dairy, some wholegrains, all unprocessed and cooked simply, you will lose weight.

OP has had some good advice here already on what a normal breakfast is - one of the 3 things she's eating.

HelenHywater · 28/09/2025 17:16

Well you need to work out what calories you need and then track them. It's really simple! Get a pair of scales, work out your TDEE and then track religiously.

On your breakfast - you have either porridge or toast, not both. Ideally have some kind of protein for breakfast, it will keep you fuller longer.

(and yes the rest of your day is too carb heavy.)

Thetravelingtiger · 28/09/2025 17:19

I can tell you straight off the bat - reduce or stop all the bread, fruit is high in sugar so cut out or down the amount of fruit. The low fat yoghurt is likely laden with sugar, find a sugar free version or an alternative.

usedtobeaylis · 28/09/2025 17:19

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 17:15

As before- calories don't equate to quality and nutrition.

You can get 1000 cals from crap food or from healthy fresh food.

For most people that tiny bit of mayo is neither here nor there.
It's a drop in the ocean of all the other stuff they eat.

Calorie counting is restrictive eating which leads to yo-yo dieting/ eating, never taking full account of nutrition , and feeling deprived.

If you intake consists of only very simple food like protein, fruit, veg, dairy, some wholegrains, all unprocessed and cooked simply, you will lose weight.

OP has had some good advice here already on what a normal breakfast is - one of the 3 things she's eating.

Edited

You've completely missed the point. It's not that a but of mayo is harmful, it's that now knowing how many calories are in multiple foods over the day adds up and puts you into a significant calorie surplus.

Calorie counting is a tool to enable you to learn what a reasonable portion of any given food actually looks like. It is not inherently restrictive, calorie counting doesn't need to be used as a weight loss tool at all. The deficit is the restriction, which you're still advocating for.

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 17:20

On your breakfast - you have either porridge or toast, not both. Ideally have some kind of protein for breakfast, it will keep you fuller longer.

swap one slice of toast for 2 poached eggs- about the same amount of calories (if we must count) but full of protein and vitamins.

usedtobeaylis · 28/09/2025 17:21

Thetravelingtiger · 28/09/2025 17:19

I can tell you straight off the bat - reduce or stop all the bread, fruit is high in sugar so cut out or down the amount of fruit. The low fat yoghurt is likely laden with sugar, find a sugar free version or an alternative.

You do not have to cut out fruit. It is not the same as refined sugar and the sugar in fruit works in conjunction with the other elements of it eg fibre.

OswaldCobblepot · 28/09/2025 17:23

Anything with milk in counts as a snack too.

Oh come off it! My cup of tea with a tiny splash of semi skimmed does not a snack make! This is getting silly now.

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 17:24

usedtobeaylis · 28/09/2025 17:19

You've completely missed the point. It's not that a but of mayo is harmful, it's that now knowing how many calories are in multiple foods over the day adds up and puts you into a significant calorie surplus.

Calorie counting is a tool to enable you to learn what a reasonable portion of any given food actually looks like. It is not inherently restrictive, calorie counting doesn't need to be used as a weight loss tool at all. The deficit is the restriction, which you're still advocating for.

No I'm not missing the point, just not agreeing.

It's very very hard to estimate your calorie needs. It's also very hard to count cals accurately.

The calories on restaurant menus have been 'blasted' by every decent nutritionist out there (professionals) as they don't work in changing behaviour.

SimplyCee · 28/09/2025 17:25

You’re on a steady insulin rise so you’d keep storing fat. Try spacing out your meals or fast as you can manage then go low carb (proteins and fibre (veg)

1reason · 28/09/2025 17:26

OP, I can see that you have already made many changes to your diet and must be downhearted about weight loss
As others say, the diet looks very high in carbs ( and calories).
Can you see a dietician or join a weight loss group for support?