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DDs best friend told lies about her

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Cottonbud777 · 26/03/2024 19:13

Basically, DD is in year 1. She’s really well liked by both her teachers and her peers. She has lots of friends and gets on with pretty much everyone and anyone.
She has this one friend who she’s been pretty much inseparable with since day one. We’ve done the whole play date thing in the beginning and we had days out and we spent time at each others houses, but eventually we stopped doing that as her mum likes to do things 24/7 which I find a bit exhausting. There was also a few spats between the girls but it was never anything major. I put it down to kids being kids most of the time, there was only really one occasion where I had to mention something to her mum as DD had come home from school quite upset. I thought we had got past that and I still considered her as a friend… until today at least.
So I messaged her last night and asked her if she knew anything about an event school had on. Like I said we weren’t meeting up as much as we used to but we’d still talk regularly and we’d chat in the playground and stuff, so it wasn’t out of the blue.
So she went from saying she had no clue about the event at school to “oh btw your daughter pushed my daughter a few weeks ago and made her cry”. DD was asleep by then so as taken aback as I was I said I would bring it up with my daughter in the morning and try and get to the bottom of it.
After speaking with DD I found out she didn’t push her maliciously, they were lining up and another student accidentally banged into my DD which resulted in her knocking into her friend and her friend falling. DD is tall for her age and her friend is quite small so to me it sounded plausible, plus she’s not very capable of lying on the spot so I had no reason not to believe her.
I messaged the mum this morning to explain that this is what DD had said and I couldn’t stress enough that I don’t think she did it maliciously as that’s really out of character for her.
The mum came back and basically accused DD of lying, and also accused her of bullying not just her daughter but other class mates. She said she only felt like she could bring it up with me today even though I have always said to anyone, if there’s ever an issue with the kids just talk to me.
Now I know DD is not perfect but she is far from a bully. Like i said, her teachers speak really highly of her and have never raised any concerns about her behaviour towards other kids. The school is pretty good and I know if there was anything they would’ve mentioned it.
The thing is, this isn’t the first time her daughter has told lies about people and they’re not just little white lies that you’d expect from a kid. She has told lies about her teacher and accused him of being appropriate towards her (this was another reason I decided to take a step back). I also found her to be quite sneaky at times with DD where she would whisper in her ear and encourage her to do things that were naughty.
Knowing my daughter’s character I just explained that I was finding it really difficult to believe that she would intentionally hurt her daughter. I’m not one to make out like the sun shines out of her… but I know she isn’t a bully and I think she may have gotten it completely wrong.
I then dropped DD off at school and spoke with her class teacher about what I had been told and she was quite taken aback that somebody would accuse DD of bullying. She said she had never seen anything but she also knows DD is not that kind of kid. She said she couldn’t understand why the other mum felt the need to raise the issue now when she’s never spoken to the school about it and her daughter is actually off sick at the moment so she’s not even in school.
I then went back to the mum explaining I’d raised it with school and if she wanted to do the same she was more than welcome to.
She then got really nasty with me, called DD every name under the sun. She said she’s manipulative and has everybody believe she’s a good girl when she’s not. She accused her of being a compulsive liar and said she does nothing but demand attention off her daughter and she had told her daughter not to play with DD but DD apparently begs her to play with her. I said it’s probably best they don’t play together anymore but suggested she should raise it with the school as it’s difficult to keep them separated in the play ground. She then called me every name under the sun and said she was going to bring everything up with the school at parents evening.
Fast forward to when I picked DD up and she said they had been best of friends today and her teacher had spoke to both her and the other girl, explained what the meaning of bullying was and when the other girl was asked if she felt like DD had bullied her she said no 🙄 so after all the false accusations and the issues caused between me and her mum she’s now admitted to lying.

My question is where do we go from here? The mum had her parents evening tonight and judging by the lack of apology and me now being blocked I’m guessing she didn’t get the answers she was looking for. I’m really not an argumentative person and I would never make out like DD is perfect because I know she’s not, but I’m not having somebody accuse her of being a bully when I know she’s not.

Long winded… apologies.

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Serene135 · 26/03/2024 21:04

Friendships at this age can be so fickle and it’s a shame that the relationship between you and the other parent has become so hostile. From reading your post I think the friendship that you had with the other parent is finished. If it was me I would just quietly move on. You said that the school knows that your daughter is not a bully and I’m sure if there are any issues between the children in school then the school will contact you. Let the other mum rant; the school will just think badly of her. I would advise that you don’t text/phone the mum and that you don’t attempt to approach her either. To be honest I don’t know if I would want my child to be friends with a child who behaves in the way you have described anyway.

ChipsAhoyyy · 26/03/2024 21:18

My advice from experience (very similar to this) is to move on from this adult friendship and not contact her again. As for the kids, if they want to play in the school setting, let them, but leave it there. People like this are not worth your time, effort or worry.

Arewethebadguys · 26/03/2024 21:24

I don't understand what you mean, 'where do I go from here?'

She's blocked you. You're no longer friends. Kids fall out all the time. They'll be best of friends then grow apart. Rinse and repeat. You don't have to 'do' anything.

DreadPirateRobots · 26/03/2024 21:35

This is why adults should not get involved in their children's minor fall-outs. The kids have forgotten it within two days and the adults fall out permanently and stew for years.

There's nowhere to "go". You aren't friends any more, end of story.

Cottonbud777 · 26/03/2024 21:38

Serene135 · 26/03/2024 21:04

Friendships at this age can be so fickle and it’s a shame that the relationship between you and the other parent has become so hostile. From reading your post I think the friendship that you had with the other parent is finished. If it was me I would just quietly move on. You said that the school knows that your daughter is not a bully and I’m sure if there are any issues between the children in school then the school will contact you. Let the other mum rant; the school will just think badly of her. I would advise that you don’t text/phone the mum and that you don’t attempt to approach her either. To be honest I don’t know if I would want my child to be friends with a child who behaves in the way you have described anyway.

Thank you for your advice. She has actually messaged tonight to apologise, which I appreciate but there’s definitely no going back to how we were. I won’t approach her though, I’m in two minds about even responding because I’m still quite angry about the things she said about DD xx

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Cottonbud777 · 26/03/2024 21:42

ChipsAhoyyy · 26/03/2024 21:18

My advice from experience (very similar to this) is to move on from this adult friendship and not contact her again. As for the kids, if they want to play in the school setting, let them, but leave it there. People like this are not worth your time, effort or worry.

Thank you for your advice. I definitely won’t be contacting her again, and I’m happy enough for the girls to play in school xx

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TheaBrandt · 26/03/2024 21:48

Agree with chips. She sounds volatile and not a mother / daughter combo I would want in my own or my daughter’s lives.

I would be civil and low key but the adult friendship is over. What was she thinking being so aggressive ? She will look back and absolutely cringe believe me.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 26/03/2024 22:06

Encourage your daughter to play with other children, and arrange some playdates with them. Just don't engage with the other mum, and hopefully in time your daughter will form other friendships.

Wooloohooloo · 26/03/2024 22:27

Don't communicate with the mum at all. Any issues- go through the school and let them handle it which is what you both should've done in the first place.

Cottonbud777 · 27/03/2024 09:58

TheaBrandt · 26/03/2024 21:48

Agree with chips. She sounds volatile and not a mother / daughter combo I would want in my own or my daughter’s lives.

I would be civil and low key but the adult friendship is over. What was she thinking being so aggressive ? She will look back and absolutely cringe believe me.

She apologised to me last night but she has started with the messages again this morning. It’s borderline harassment now. I’ve got parents evening tonight with the teacher I spoke to yesterday so I’m going to have a word with her about her mums behaviour. I really haven’t got a clue what to do because she’s telling me I need to keep my daughter away from hers, but how is that possible in a school setting? Xx

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Cottonbud777 · 27/03/2024 09:59

Wooloohooloo · 26/03/2024 22:27

Don't communicate with the mum at all. Any issues- go through the school and let them handle it which is what you both should've done in the first place.

Thank you. She’s started with the messages again today but I’m at parents evening tonight so ill discuss it with the teacher xx

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Cottonbud777 · 27/03/2024 09:59

TheYearOfSmallThings · 26/03/2024 22:06

Encourage your daughter to play with other children, and arrange some playdates with them. Just don't engage with the other mum, and hopefully in time your daughter will form other friendships.

Thank you. I’ve been warned I need to keep my daughter away from hers but I don’t know how I’m supposed to do that whilst they’re at school xx

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Cottonbud777 · 28/03/2024 13:20

Just a little update:

She carried on with the abusive and threatening messages. She referred to my child as attention seeking, jealous and even labelled her fat. School are now very much aware of what’s going on. She failed to turn up for parents evening which in the schools eyes was very telling. If there was such an issue she would’ve been more keen to raise it with the school. The messages have stopped for now but now the school are aware of what’s going on they’re obviously going to monitor it. As far as the “friendship” is concerned it doesn’t exist anymore. I’m just going to carry on as normal and pretend she doesn’t even exist. My main priority is my child’s safety xx

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Serene135 · 28/03/2024 17:16

I’m lost for words. Who calls a child names like that?! I would advise that you block her number now so that you don’t receive any more calls/messages. They’re just causing stress and irritation. Avoid her during drop off/pick up and don’t give her another thought. Don’t even look in her direction at the school gates because you will be giving her the attention that she’s craving.

ChipsAhoyyy · 29/03/2024 09:00

Cottonbud777 · 28/03/2024 13:20

Just a little update:

She carried on with the abusive and threatening messages. She referred to my child as attention seeking, jealous and even labelled her fat. School are now very much aware of what’s going on. She failed to turn up for parents evening which in the schools eyes was very telling. If there was such an issue she would’ve been more keen to raise it with the school. The messages have stopped for now but now the school are aware of what’s going on they’re obviously going to monitor it. As far as the “friendship” is concerned it doesn’t exist anymore. I’m just going to carry on as normal and pretend she doesn’t even exist. My main priority is my child’s safety xx

She sounds completely unhinged. Be glad you’ve realised sooner rather than later. Hugs to you and you DD x

Cottonbud777 · 30/03/2024 20:02

Serene135 · 28/03/2024 17:16

I’m lost for words. Who calls a child names like that?! I would advise that you block her number now so that you don’t receive any more calls/messages. They’re just causing stress and irritation. Avoid her during drop off/pick up and don’t give her another thought. Don’t even look in her direction at the school gates because you will be giving her the attention that she’s craving.

She’s unhinged! I know the teacher collared her the other day at pick up and since then the messages have stopped, so I’m hoping she’s been given a warning. I know she will try claiming she’s innocent but the teacher has seen the messages and she was gobsmacked and what was said. I’m hoping things will stop now, I just have to make sure DD keeps away from her child in school xx

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Cottonbud777 · 30/03/2024 20:02

ChipsAhoyyy · 29/03/2024 09:00

She sounds completely unhinged. Be glad you’ve realised sooner rather than later. Hugs to you and you DD x

Thank you 🥰 in all honesty she’s done me and DD a huge favour xx

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TheaBrandt · 30/03/2024 20:23

Back away slowly! What a loon

WishesPromised · 30/03/2024 21:06

As someone who has worked with small children I would say that kids can be pretty awful to one another as that the parents are always desperate to believe an alternative story.

Kids are learning. They can read you and know when to hide or lie about behaviour they know you will disapprove of.

Cottonbud777 · 31/03/2024 10:14

WishesPromised · 30/03/2024 21:06

As someone who has worked with small children I would say that kids can be pretty awful to one another as that the parents are always desperate to believe an alternative story.

Kids are learning. They can read you and know when to hide or lie about behaviour they know you will disapprove of.

I understand that and like I said I’m not trying to say the sun shines out of DD because I know it doesn’t. But this particular girl has told really hurtful lies in the past, and when she was questioned on the incident with DD she came up with a completely different story to what she told her mum. When asked if she felt like DD had bullied her she said no 🤷🏼‍♀️ DD has never been accused of anything like this in the past, so I’m obviously more inclined to believe DD on this occasion. I even said to the mum that if I’m wrong I’ll hold my hands up and admit that but I spoke with the class teacher and she even said, she’s not that kind of kid 🤷🏼‍♀️

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