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Teacher not taking bullying seriously?

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ighjkvybgghj · 15/11/2023 02:35

I feel like I'm going mad.

For a while now my 5 year old (in year 1) has had issues with a classmate. At first nothing seemed particularly directed at my son. He'd come home with, and perhaps I'm being naive here, stories of behaviour that seemed to me very inappropriate for 5/6 year olds: that this boy had spent lunch time running round shouting "I'm going to kick you in the nuts" and trying to kick anyone in site, that this boy would make the girls play a game he called slaves even if they didn't want to... etc etc, it felt like every day it was something new. It got ridiculous.

Then about 6 weeks ago my son woke up in the night having had a nightmare, saying it was about a game called prisoners that this boy had them all playing. The next night the same thing. He was terrified. I mentioned it to the teacher, she said she'd talk to them as a class. We worked on encouraging our son to play with others if the games this group were playing were too scary etc. Then came report's that this boy has a game called "run away from...name" which is as it sounds. My son said he usually picked someone different every day and whoever it was would be upset but that for over a week it had been him every single day. Then another nightmare, apparently this boy had given my son a very detailed account of how he was going to skin him alive because he'd knocked his tower over, allegedly by accident. Nightmares and tears galore over that particular one. I'd talk to the teacher, she'd say she'd watch them keep them apart encourage my son to make other friendships. A lot of emphasis on my son and what he can do to move away from this but I figured that's because he's my son.

Then the latest one: my son is in tears getting ready for school. Says he doesn't want to go because this other boy got a nerf gun for his birthday and has said he's going to bring it into school and shoot him and kill him. If he tells anyone he'll find him on the way to school. Obviously I explained what a nerf gun is, that it can't actually do any damage, but this boys has insisted it will kill my son and he's terrified. I tell the teacher, says she'll report it to the head. She checks in with me regularly and I repeat various other goings on (the boy threatened to stab him in the eye, a few other violent threats) and she continues with was my son can keep away from the boy. He starts mouthing "I'm going to shoot you" at my son across the classroom, my son confesses late one night he can't concentrate because he's too scared.

I assume given how violent and specific the threats are that the other parents have been informed but during this time I get 3 messages from the mum asking if my son wants to come round for a play date. I decline, just saying no thanks hope you have a good week - feeling a conversation between us might not be particularly productive. On the third one, I ask the teacher if they're aware as the playdate requests seem odd - she says no!! They haven't felt its quite reached that point yet. The teacher suggests a few more things to try first, both requiring my son to make sacrifices and try and make new friends. There's more this is just a very long post already. I feel like I'm going mad, does this seem like an appropriate response from the teacher? My son said he sat on his own at playtime last week as the teacher had reminded him not to play with this other boy and he couldn't think who else to play with. It feels like he's being punished for being bullied. I'm thinking of going to the head teacher tomorrow, does this seem appropriate?

I should say, I have another son at the school who is 2 years older in year 3. He tries to intervene when he can and go get a teacher but has witnessed many of these things happening. I don't feel my eldest would lie, he's a very honest boy and has autism so it's really not in his nature to do so. My youngest, I mean he's only 5 but he's good natured and usually very happy and easy going. The difference we've seen in him this last month is awful

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TrishyLou1111 · 15/11/2023 03:14

Hiya lovely

This is awful to read, and I hope your little boy is okay.

I think going to the headteacher and telling them if they don't sort this shit out, then you'll be going to LADO and the education board, I'm sure they will move their arses then.

It is completely unacceptable to overlook this sort of behaviour, and then your little boy has to make sacrifices like he is the one in the wrong for having a voice.

I hope you get to the bottom of it and your baby settles soon x

TrishyLou1111 · 15/11/2023 03:18

ighjkvybgghj · 15/11/2023 02:35

I feel like I'm going mad.

For a while now my 5 year old (in year 1) has had issues with a classmate. At first nothing seemed particularly directed at my son. He'd come home with, and perhaps I'm being naive here, stories of behaviour that seemed to me very inappropriate for 5/6 year olds: that this boy had spent lunch time running round shouting "I'm going to kick you in the nuts" and trying to kick anyone in site, that this boy would make the girls play a game he called slaves even if they didn't want to... etc etc, it felt like every day it was something new. It got ridiculous.

Then about 6 weeks ago my son woke up in the night having had a nightmare, saying it was about a game called prisoners that this boy had them all playing. The next night the same thing. He was terrified. I mentioned it to the teacher, she said she'd talk to them as a class. We worked on encouraging our son to play with others if the games this group were playing were too scary etc. Then came report's that this boy has a game called "run away from...name" which is as it sounds. My son said he usually picked someone different every day and whoever it was would be upset but that for over a week it had been him every single day. Then another nightmare, apparently this boy had given my son a very detailed account of how he was going to skin him alive because he'd knocked his tower over, allegedly by accident. Nightmares and tears galore over that particular one. I'd talk to the teacher, she'd say she'd watch them keep them apart encourage my son to make other friendships. A lot of emphasis on my son and what he can do to move away from this but I figured that's because he's my son.

Then the latest one: my son is in tears getting ready for school. Says he doesn't want to go because this other boy got a nerf gun for his birthday and has said he's going to bring it into school and shoot him and kill him. If he tells anyone he'll find him on the way to school. Obviously I explained what a nerf gun is, that it can't actually do any damage, but this boys has insisted it will kill my son and he's terrified. I tell the teacher, says she'll report it to the head. She checks in with me regularly and I repeat various other goings on (the boy threatened to stab him in the eye, a few other violent threats) and she continues with was my son can keep away from the boy. He starts mouthing "I'm going to shoot you" at my son across the classroom, my son confesses late one night he can't concentrate because he's too scared.

I assume given how violent and specific the threats are that the other parents have been informed but during this time I get 3 messages from the mum asking if my son wants to come round for a play date. I decline, just saying no thanks hope you have a good week - feeling a conversation between us might not be particularly productive. On the third one, I ask the teacher if they're aware as the playdate requests seem odd - she says no!! They haven't felt its quite reached that point yet. The teacher suggests a few more things to try first, both requiring my son to make sacrifices and try and make new friends. There's more this is just a very long post already. I feel like I'm going mad, does this seem like an appropriate response from the teacher? My son said he sat on his own at playtime last week as the teacher had reminded him not to play with this other boy and he couldn't think who else to play with. It feels like he's being punished for being bullied. I'm thinking of going to the head teacher tomorrow, does this seem appropriate?

I should say, I have another son at the school who is 2 years older in year 3. He tries to intervene when he can and go get a teacher but has witnessed many of these things happening. I don't feel my eldest would lie, he's a very honest boy and has autism so it's really not in his nature to do so. My youngest, I mean he's only 5 but he's good natured and usually very happy and easy going. The difference we've seen in him this last month is awful

I'm that parent, but.. I'd also be speaking to the mother. What on earth is this kid watching/seeing/experiencing to be able to come up with such sadistic rituals. He sounds like he will be in a young offenders by the time he's 10.

If the school arent doing their bit, and your boy is suffering, speak to his mother if you feel comfortable enough to do so. Xx

VashtaNerada · 15/11/2023 04:29

It’s impossible to say for certain but as a teacher I’d imagine that a lot is going on behind the scenes that the teacher isn’t allowed to share with you. That child’s behaviour isn’t typical and my instant reaction is that there is SEN or some form of trauma going on here. Again, this is just a guess based on experience, I can’t possibly say for sure. I would imagine the school is doing a lot of work with the child to support him and help him manage the behaviour.
If you’re not already, I would keep a diary of what your child is telling you with exact quotes from him. It could be useful evidence if the school are applying for an EHCP but also helps you make a case for your child’s wellbeing. I’m sorry this is happening to him, it’s not okay. With the funding cuts to schools unfortunately this type of behaviour and lack of support to deal with it is going to keep on happening in schools. As teachers we hate it too. It really upsets me when children don’t want to come to school because of the behaviour of others. Especially when I know that behaviour could be managed with a bit more support.

dhworry · 15/11/2023 04:38

I wouldn't approach parents unless you feel comfortable to.

I'd take it to head. Have a list of all incidents and ask what they intend to do to protect your child. There will be an anti bullying policy on the school website. Reference that in discussion.

If nothing improves I would go back and explain if issues do not stop you will escalate this further - board of governors/ofsted.

Basically be on them, it's unacceptable and your child should not have to deal with this. I'd speak to other parents and ask what they are doing. More than one complaint may force schools hand.

Someone mentioned lado, I could be wrong but I thought lado was for issues with staff.

MidnightOnceMore · 15/11/2023 04:51

Don't approach the parents.

Write bulletpointed list in an email, send to the headteacher.

State 'my son is being repeatedly bullied and I would like to know what school will put in place, from today, to ensure this can't happen again'.

If no action in a week, make a formal complaint to the governors.

TrishyLou1111 · 15/11/2023 07:43

dhworry · 15/11/2023 04:38

I wouldn't approach parents unless you feel comfortable to.

I'd take it to head. Have a list of all incidents and ask what they intend to do to protect your child. There will be an anti bullying policy on the school website. Reference that in discussion.

If nothing improves I would go back and explain if issues do not stop you will escalate this further - board of governors/ofsted.

Basically be on them, it's unacceptable and your child should not have to deal with this. I'd speak to other parents and ask what they are doing. More than one complaint may force schools hand.

Someone mentioned lado, I could be wrong but I thought lado was for issues with staff.

I mentioned LADO.

If staff aren't addressing bullying, then there's an issue with staff x

ighjkvybgghj · 15/11/2023 10:01

Thank you all. In a way it is good to hear that others are horrified by this too, I was starting to feel like I was going mad. I've emailed the head teacher detailing everything and asking for a solution that takes the pressure away from my son. Thanks again

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Timeforsnacks · 24/02/2024 22:27

Hi, I've just come across this and it sounds awful, has the situation improved at all?

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