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Scissors incident at school

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Quillstar · 08/10/2015 13:41

My dd1 is in reception and out of the blue, with no reason or context, another child snipped her ear with child scissors while a teacher's back was turned. She needed ten stitches as he had cut all the way through. The school are shocked and have never seen such a thing happen. We are in an private overseas school. They have removed accessibility to the scissors but refuse to take any further action with the child insisting it must have been an accident, that he must have been trying to cut her hair. She said he was not even playing with her. The action was out of character for the boy although my DD1 says he harmed her a year ago with a sharp implement but there is no record. What action would you expect the school to take in relation to the child? We want an assessment that he is not a risk to her or others but they are pushing back. We are worried for her safety She is not scared of him and does not dislike him but all of that makes the incident more frightening.

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Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 08/10/2015 13:46

Do the childs parents know?
Look at he following policies, behaviour, bullying and complaints.
They cross over so you should find what you need.
Put EVERY thing in writing. They take more notice or recorded complaints. State what happened, what out come youd like to see etc.

Do they have Ofstead/outside agencies/
Do not do nothing.

Quillstar · 08/10/2015 14:15

The child's parents know. They have apologised and have no explanation. They kept him off of school. The school have revised their policy on scissors and will retrain children but we are more worried by the fact the child did it calmly, with no reason. Would this worry you as a parent or would you write it off as an just am accident with scissors which he should not have had? The school do not want to single out the child and demonise him. They just want to write it off as an accident.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2015 14:21

Oh god.

yes that would definately worry me. it would have been an accident Imo of he was cutting hair and slipped or was waving them about.

cutting the ear is like something out a violent or horror movie. child scissors barely cut paper so that was some force used.

not sure how much they cab do though short if keeping dangerous objects away and stepping up supervision perhaps.

you can't he told about anything they plan to do with the child so I wouldn't assume they aren't monitoring him. but I would definately keep recirds/photos of incidents and complain to ofsted if you aren't satisfied they are keeping your child safe

Quillstar · 08/10/2015 14:39

I know it's very reservoir dogs.
They couldn't be more clear that they don't plan to do anything with the child because it isn't a pattern of behaviour. Perhaps the next child who loses an eye will constitute a pattern.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2015 15:00

I would assume a one off behaviour like that was as important as a pattern. could be anything from he was exposed to a film.he shouldn't have been and parents need to be made aware to check he's not loitering sneakily on the stairs at night to it just being a sign that whatever he's going through at home is too much and he's snapped.

such a serious injury and one which could easily have left your dd permanently disfigured should be taken as seriously as behaviours that are recurrent.

im unsure as to whether a 4/5 yr old could be that quick thinking, as to have an excuse ready given an accident like that would surely render both parties in shock...

almost makes me think.it had been thought about before..

Quillstar · 08/10/2015 15:07

It wasn't even done upwards like you would if you were cutting hair. It was sideways on the lower earlobe and cut all the way through. The scissors did seem sharp to me. Apparently they are cld scissors but they must also be able to cut. They are sharper when new out the packet. But surely as soon as anyone would realise they were cutting skin, they would pull back, not press down. And if he has 2 or 3 you could claim an accident maybe but surely they know at 5 that scissors would hurt someone.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2015 16:14

Yes that is the worrying part. accidents and severe ones happen but usually the child responsible would be very upset themselves that they had hurt someone. we all know also how a tiny bit if blood can make a child hugely over exaggerate the injury. so the fact t ot was reported as being so calm makes me worry more.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2015 16:15

sorry not saying that your dd was exaggerating. what I meant was that the amount of blood the injury produced would terrify alot of children given tiny injuries and tiny amounts if blood often lead to alot of upset

Snossidge · 08/10/2015 16:26

4 and 5 year olds do stupid impulsive things all the time. Unless you have some other reason to think the kid is dangerous I wouldn't assume he's a psycho. I took similar aged children on a trip to a farm not very long ago and one usually fairly sensible and not at all aggressive child threw a handful of stones at a lamb - impulsive 5yo behaviour.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2015 16:37

No one's labelling him a psycho. more that I would worry what he was being exposed to. it's directly out of a movie.

cutting the shirt or a strand if hair would be impulsive. this is more serious.

but then I would think a willingness to throw stones at a tiny lamb is more serious than.impulsive too as both are something that you know would cause pain to another person/living creature.

it's more calculated than if hurting someone was a by product of another impulsive behaviour where perhaps teh link.wouldnt be made by a young child. like moving someone's chair for a joke for example

Keeptrudging · 08/10/2015 16:42

I would be really worried by this. In my experience infant paper scissors often don't even cut paper, so it must have been done with a lot of force/aim quickly, otherwise your daughter would have moved away when she felt them starting to cut.

Small children often don't think about other children's pain/act maliciously but this would really worry me. The worst scissor injuries I've ever had with the hundreds of children I've taught have been snips of hair.

Quillstar · 08/10/2015 16:43

I think the film idea could definitely explain it but the trouble is none of the adults can explain it for sure and the boy won't talk. Therefore I want a specialist to talk to him but they think that is singling him out .I mean how can you not single him out, everyone agrees he did it.

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Quillstar · 08/10/2015 16:45

How could I forgive myself if I let it go and next time she lost an eye? Or somoeone else's kid did?

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Nonnainglese · 08/10/2015 16:47

I'm surprised your dd didn't pull away when she felt the scissors- I'm not disbelieving OP but it must have taken quite a bit of pressure to do that much damage.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2015 16:57

It's hard to explain bit the "not singling him out" comment worries me more than tthem.not saying anything would.

they physically cannot legally tell you what their plans are with the child in question. there could be things on place already for all you know.

however their comment smacks of not dealing with anything at all.

Kids get 1-1 time. with teachers/Tas regularly so no one would think anything of it if he was with someone fir a morning.

sitting in a time.out/corner etc is "singling out" to an extent also.

so they are basically saying they aren't able to deal with sensitive issues discretely, or doing a damn thing nor intend to which is more worrying than anything else

Quillstar · 08/10/2015 17:03

He is from a prestigious background. That's why .

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CultureSucksDownWords · 08/10/2015 17:08

If you don't think the school are willing to keep the children safe (for whatever reason) and you don't think they'll change their minds then you'll have to remove your child. A school that treats children differently based on who their parents are is not a good school.

Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 08/10/2015 17:50

Can i suggest. ... not lightly that you male a claim on their insurance? It will make them sit up and take notice? That you mean business? You have a good claim.

Keeptrudging · 08/10/2015 18:32

Yes, absolutely. Lawyer's letter stating facts/action taken by school and future 'right' to claim compensation as your child will likely be permanently scarred by this if she needed 10 stitches. I'm not a 'sue everyone' fan, but the school really need to deal with this properly (including looking at how the hell infant scissors did this).

Bobby1410 · 18/12/2024 07:43

a group of girls have been bulling my daughter its been two months now last week they throw a scissor at my daughter and saying nasty words there intimidating her someone help I won’t send my daughter in she’s not safe

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