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Eating too much?? Formula/ expressed milk

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strawberrycake · 14/06/2010 10:37

My 1.5 week old baby has gone from under-eating to eating huge amounts in a matter of days. We had a hellish first few days in hospital where he wouldn't suckle at the breast, he became dry-lipped and hysterical (I felt awful). On the day I got him home I gave in to formula, I had a hysterical newborn and was at my wits end (midwife didn't turn up for her next day visit as hospital lost my discharge form!).

At first he had 10-20ml max, for about a week. We left him too it and just fed whenever he wanted more. He was alert and producing nappies so I didn't worry. Now he's suddenly hit the other end of the scale, nearly doubling the recommended amount on the tin! Tin says 90ml every 3-4 hours, he has this every 2.

Are we over-feeding? We never force a bottle on him, just feed when he roots and sucks his hands and cries. He wants a 90ml bottle around every 2 hours, rather than every 4, and he finishes them. He's not bringing any up afterwards so he doesn't seem over-full. We take the bottle away when he spits it out (often 5ml-10ml left) and I use a slow flow teat. Is he just making up for the bad start where he was near-starved (at the insistence of hospital staff, I was clueless why he was the only baby not sleeping, he latched for the first day which was enough for them, but he has NEVER sucked at the breast). I express as much as I can (about a third of his intake) but he's having 10-12 feeds in 24 hours, rather than 6. He seems content and well and nappies are normal.

I would have loved to breast feed but we never managed, without support we got into a cycle of getting stressed and after having my boob shoved in his mouth many times by hospital staff he cries if I so much as show him a nipple. I have large flat nipples which I think contributed to our problems, and left to it we didn't manage to sort it out

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Thandeka · 14/06/2010 10:48

It's not to late to bfeed if you still want to? My dd didn't start til a week in (and then only latched on with nipple shields for next three weeks), but it would take lots of determination, hard work and professional support. I am about to pop out so can't post properly but will try and pop back later.

90ml is an awful lot for such a LO but if not bringing it up after and seems happy then keep doing what you are doing.

strawberrycake · 14/06/2010 10:54

To be honest without support we're both at our wits end with bf. He's calmer around the nipple now but does not latch or attempt to. My nipples are flat and we haven't found a way to sort a latch out. They don't seem to trigger his sucking reflex.

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pinkypanther · 14/06/2010 14:28

Hi there, I had a similar situation with my son. My husband and I were so concerned that we kept a spreadsheet (!) detailing his feeds. Looking at it now, I can see that when he was 10 days old, he was drinking 100ml (a mix of expressed milk and formula top-ups), about every 2 hours, 24/7.

Your son's feeding pattern seems very similar to this. I think I would be more worried if he wasn't feeding!

Just a question though - was your son low-ish birth weight? My son was on the 2nd centile when he was born and the HV described his constant feeding as him "finding his level". He is now 15 weeks, and on the 75th centile.

Oh, and he mostly sleeps through the night - so it does pass

Good luck!

Thandeka · 14/06/2010 15:39

Right am back now! My nips are totally flat too, dd would only latch with a nipple shield which sort of sucked the nipple up. They sell them in boots. I'd suggest trying that with lots of skin to skin cuddles. Have you phoned a breast feeding support line? Or visited a group? They would be best to support you in person. Then once you can get LO to latch you could also try an at breast supplementer to give the formula feeds.

Honestly the fat lady hasn't sung yet, I was were you were pretty much. If you wanted to email me your phone number on thandeka totango at hotmail dot com I would be happy to gI've you a call and chat through some bits easier than typing them one handed with dd on boob!

strawberrycake · 14/06/2010 22:09

Pinky- Thank you for making me feel normal! He wasn't a low birth weight (8lb 3) but he did loose more than average the first week.

Thandeka-thank you for your kind offer. I'm a bit emotionally wrecked at the moment (baby blues? keep crying) but in a few days when I'm a bit more positive I may well take you up on your kind offer. I haven't been to any groups, I was invited but I'm embarassed to say I didn't go. From the women I know going they all seemed to be successfully starting to bf and I didn't fancy being the lone no-hoper whilst they chatted about how difficult the hours were etc. when I hadn't even got started.

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SarfEasticated · 14/06/2010 22:44

My friend also with flat nipples did really well with shields, and when her baby got a bit bigger she stopped using them. I wished I had known about them but my BF councillor didn't rate them, so i ended up expressing and ff'ing .
Maybe offer him bottle first, then breast when he's not so hungry that he gets frustrated? Good luck and be proud that you're doing a really good job.

pinkypanther · 15/06/2010 10:01

Sounds like he's just catching up on that first week then! Don't worry, it all sounds fine.

In terms of BF, if you do want to give it a go, could you use the pump just before you feed him, to suck the nipple out a bit? If there was a bit of milk on the nipple from that, it might encourage him as well.

Also, I found with my DS that if I wanted him to BF, he would have to be really hungry, so he would go on the breast first and then have a top up from a bottle afterwards.

To be honest though, BF never got off the ground for us and at 15 weeks DS is solely bottle fed (though I am still expressing for him).

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