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holytoast · 18/05/2010 21:20

Basically think DD has the dreaded colic, for which I guess the only cure is time, and have scoured the mn archives for advice, think I have exhausted all avenues - but just wondering if anyone out there can shed any more light on the issues we are having with DD, 5 weeks old. She is lovely, and came home from hospital very calm and chilled for the first few days - hardly ever cried, went 2-3hrs between feeds, even at night...we thought someone would be along any minute to give us the real baby, the one that cried all night!

A week or two in, it all started - she makes horrible groaning, almost straining noises, very loudly after every feed, which we think is wind. There are burps, sometimes really loud, and farts, but they don't seem to releive the groaning much - she just seems in so much discomfort. If left this turn into cries, with legs and arms kicking, writhing, the whole lot. She also seems to feed every hour or so in the morning, and in the evening - yesterday I couldn't leave the sofa for a shower until 2pm - and then around 5pm the hourly feeding starts again - she feeds, groans for a bit, burps, then wants more again -sleeps about 2-3 hrs at a stint at night, but can take a good 2 - 3 hrs to settle again after a feed - by which time she is hungry again - I know this is all normal newborn behaviour, and I know we just have to wait it out - but have a few questions if anyone has any advice?

I'm not sure if I am making this worse, by feeding her every time she starts sucking her hand etc, even though it is the only thing that comforts her, all the groaning crying etc starts again a little while later? I am exclusively breastfeeding her, and I do have a lot of milk, it gushes out, so am feeding her lying down, co-sleeping after she wakes first time in the night, and feeding her sitting up during the day. I am also now on the second day of tying one sided feeding, which is ok, but getting very engorged on other side..she feeds quickly, and sometimes we are both lazy about the latch, although mostly its good - have had it checked. She often 'falls off' the nipple and seems to find it difficult to latch, and also pulls away and also headbutts me, for want of a better word, when she is on - which hurts! I think this is all to do with high milk supply?

We try everything to get the wind up - bicycling legs, tummy rubs, laying her on her tummy and rubbing back, infacol first, now gripe water, gallons of fennel tea (for me, and a little for her)and osteopath, (second appointment tomorrow) - but nothing seems to make any major difference.

is there anything left? have some coleif, was going to try that next, but wary of loading more stuff on top of what we are already doing, as will have no idea what is working if it improves!
we are getting some sleep, so I know its not as bad as it could be, but it doesn't seem to be getting better, just worse - am beginning to really lose patience, and DH has been getting no more than 2 hrs a night, and can hardly function.
I thought of trying bottles at night for the feeds that seem to cause her the most discomfort, as she seems to burp better with a bottle, but I have no idea when I would express! going to get a sling, and attempt feeding on the move, and am co-sleeping...is it just a case of waiting it out now? is there any point in me giving up dairy, or seeing the doc about it?

I hate the fact that I am getting so fed up with her, when he is like this and not enjoying her as much as I should be..I know its not her fault, just soooo tired!

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LaDiDaDi · 18/05/2010 21:24

My only thoughts are

Why are you feeding her on one side?

Could you express a little before you latch her on so that she doesn't get overwhelmed by a very fast let down?

HeadFairy · 18/05/2010 21:31

I'm no expert, but it doesn't sound like colic to really. Most experts are divided as to what colic actually is, it's all rather vague. It does sound like your dd is a windy baby. My dd was also really windy, she used to groan and grunt a lot too. It was actually something she grew out of, although she can still get really bad.

Do you think you have a fast let down? I think this may have caused some of my early problems with dd, and I used to feed her lying backwards. I would lie back at about a 45 degree angle propped up on cushions, to slow the flow down, in an effort to help her take less wind down as she fed. You have to watch out for blocked ducts if you do this, any hard, painful, hot lumps and you need to get a warm flannel or hot water bottle on it and massage it a bit (and keep feeding from that side).

I'm not sure what the one sided feeding is all about, but if you're trying to work out when to express, could you work out a way to express the other side while you're feeding on the other. I know it's really hard, it's like you need an extra hand, but if you can it'll help with the engorgement and might provide you with enough to give her a bottle in the evening, though you must be wary that expressing to relieve engorgement might actually make it worse. It's a fine line to judge.

The feeding every hour in the evening is cluster feeding I think? I could be wrong, but both of mine have done it, ds cluster fed every night from 6pm to midnight until he was 8 weeks old!

I wish I could give you some better advice, I've tried all the wind remedies as well, and I really don't think any of them made the blindest bit of difference. DD hated Gripe water and I couldn't bear the hysterics she had when I was trying to give it to her, so maybe I should have tried longer. I hope someone with some better advice comes along soon.

thatsnotmymonkey · 18/05/2010 21:35

Hiya,

You are doing really well, and sleep deprivation is horrid! Was your DD a c-section?

I am sure TiTOK will be along shortly to give you some practical support and it sounds like you are doing all that you can think of! Could you be doing too much?

Is there a difference to how she feeds being sat up, or your laying down, WRT the wind and latch? I might be inclined to say find a way that your DD feeds well/best and stick to that, and then co-sleep.

I would call your HV too, and talk it through with them.

My DS was a c-section and was really squirmy and really windy for the 1st few weeks. I would feed him in my MOBY sling wrap and keep him in there for the duration, sit up at night to feed with a pillow under him to support. I would then lay him there for a few minutes to let the milk "settle", I would wind him with his tummy on my shoulder and do a slow count to 100. If no wind came out I would lay down and rub tummy gently. We used to give him INfacol, because I felt that it made a bit of difference, but maybe just to me! Colief I have heard really good things about, but is a faff to give.

If your DH is working and not able to catch up on sleep in the day, would he be able to sleep in a spare room one or two nights a week?
I used to feed my DS at 7pm, then leave him down stairs in the push chair with my DH, go to bed, DH would bring DS to bed with him at 10ish, and then the night feeding/co-sleeping would commence!

Hang in there x

debka · 18/05/2010 21:50

My DD was windy and I went to a BF support group which encouraged me to use the Biological Nurturing position, which is more upright so the baby is not lying horizontal but more vertical and that seemed to help.

Remember babies are odd little buggers and change from one day to the next!

Put DH in another room so he can get some sleep and you just sleep whenever DD sleeps if I were you.

Keep going, it will get better- I love my DD more every single day

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