Not sure if this is a sleep or feeding issue

[rubyslippers]

DD is 14 weeks and EBF

i honestly thought things would be better by now

she is waking 2 hourly at night for food and i am reaching the end of my tether

i am very tired (also have toddler to look after)

she still cluster feeds in the evenings

i cannot feed her more than i am doing in the day but the nights are awful on top of it

i need to sleep more than a n hour or two at a stretch

she has found her hands but sucking on them doesn't soothe her

she is very alert in the day and doesn't seem to have obvious sleep cues

i feed her to sleep in the evenings and at night although in the day i can pat her bum and she will settle

she really doesn't like a bottle - she has taken it twice but only on the rare occasions i have had an hour or two off

i am on my knees and there is no end in sight

i co-sleep but to be perfectly honest at the end of the day i just want to be on my own

i cannot get into the mindset that this is my job for now - she is thriving, happy and healthy but i am not

Hi ruby fingers crossed you get a better night tonight.

Your feeding times look similar to mine. I've just had to start eating loads of porridge just before 10ish to keep me going through the night plus I have a flask of ovaltine as well.
I have heard the phrase "regression to newborn" for this latest developmental leap/spurt. It's awful.

I hope the osteopath helps.

Just to say after reading your latest post am thinking of you and hoping you get a better night . You're doing so well. Sometimes it's good to implement a plan (like baby whisperer that you mentioned) just to feel you've got a path forward. Sometimes it's also good to tell yourself that it will get easier and that things will not be this way forever...I am doing both at the same time! I have found from experience that simply making him self settle (eventually, using baby whisperer-type techniques) does not guarantee any difference to the night waking pattern..Really hoping things get easier for you soon. You managing any daytime sleep?

she is still as bad

every 2 hours again last ngith

it is weird - i am waking about a minute before she cries so we are obvioulsy in sync (we are co-sleeping)

am therefore wondering if i am waking her and vice versa so we may be better sleeping separately?

having said that she won't go in her basket!

hi ruby, hope she sleeps longer soon. DS only woke 3 times between 10 and 5, huge improvement, but was sickened at nct meet today - DS is oldest out of 10 babies, and worst sleeper too some mums were complaining that the longest sleep they get is 6 hours. if i wasn't so tired i'd have lamped them.

am so glad for you Arolf ... hope things are on the up for you

i would sell my soul for 6 hours sleep right now ...

HV no real help - although she was a good listening ear

am losing the will to breastfeed to be honest

ruby you feel that way about BF. How is DD feeding when she does wake? is it a nibble or a full on feed? I wonder if she's just wakign up and finding it hard to sleep again so is going for boob.
Are you able to sleep at all when cosleeping? Are you feeding lying down?
My DS is really overtired at the moment and is finding it hard to settle so maybe it's the same for your DD?

arolf screw your NCT lot! Pah!

ruby have you tried formula 'top-ups'?
may do nothing, but if you get your DH to do it, could give you some respite. may make no difference at all of course.

not sure about formula TBH

HV suggested early weaning!

hmmm .... thanks for the moral support - much appreciated

ruby - weaning at 14 weeks????? No wonder HVs have a bad reputation

not at 14 weeks - don't be silly

she thought i should wait until 17 weeks

I thought official guidance was 20 weeks absolute minimum now anyway .

Good luck for tonight.

[FWIW I think you might have identified one of the main areas to work on yourself:
"she cannot really get to sleep without a feed so that is an issue" ]

hi ruby, how's my DS's cyber-non-sleeping twin? DS managed to wake up every 40 minutes from midnight to 7 last night - I'm not sure what's going on really. it's driving me bananas.

I think if he's still doing it by next weekend, he's getting a night feed then being left with DP for 6 hours or so whilst I sleep in another room.

hope you're getting some sleep.