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please help me, I'm sat here crying, can't do this on my own

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eleanorsmum · 16/11/2009 08:59

Am feeding dd2 aged 3 weeks myself but am so sore and so tired and can't get her to sleep without being on the boob. feel so alone, no idea what to do, do i stop and go for formula, express so dh can do some, i just don't know and need a hug. my mum is nearby and helping with dd1 but just can't stop crying cos i'm tired. i know this is the best thing for dd2 but never realised it was this hard (didn't mange with dd1).

sorry for waffle but what am i doing wrong?

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willowstar · 16/11/2009 18:59

hello...just wanted to say...your post couuld have been written by me about 3 weeks ago! My little girl is 6 weeks old and I struggled so much in those early days, i had NO IDEA she would be on my boobs so much and they were shredded and sore so often. Anyway...our lives changed when she hit 4 weeks and I gave her a dummy, what a difference. She just loves to suck, simple as that. I was apprehensive having read so much on here about how it can mess with the feeding but it doesn't seem to have with us...she spits it out when she doesn't want it and if she wants food she certainly lets me know very loudly. I am probably over compensating by trying to feed her when she isn't hungry cos sometimes I put her to the boob and she just isn't interested. Anyway, I digress. Hang in there, IT WILL GET BETTER...

gingerbreadlatte · 16/11/2009 20:11

EleanorsMum- So sorry you are feeling like this but its completely normal and you are doing brilliantly getting the latch checked, going to BF cafes etc.

If you want some pictures- look at
www.drjacknewman.com/

there are some good videos on there showing latch.

Have you tried a lying down position? When i was at that stage I'd lie on my side on sofa, stick a rolled up muslin under the feeding boob and lie DD next to me. It worked in that I got to rest and she fed.

Hang in there on the soreness- it is normal to feel sore whilst you get used to it- I dont buy this stuff about "if it hurts then latch is wrong"- nipples are sensitive and need time to adjust.

Do you have pain ful let down too.

Hang in there- get hugs from your partner and you are doing an amazing thing for your DD.

keep posting for support- loads of us have been throu that period of hell. It really DOES get better

(my dd is now 8mths and Imhaving to stop feeding to go back to work and Im desperate not too as its lovely once you get through the intial phase)

bracingair · 16/11/2009 22:35

hi,
sorry if it has been mentioned before, but i found bf hurt till my nipples healed. i.e. i put lansolin on, and then gauze (to stop it sticking to breastpad OUCH) and then a breastpad on top. Did this after every feed for a few days and then the pain stopped.

Even if the baby is latched on correctly i believe (despite NCT!) that nipples are sensitive and yes it will hurt till they 'harden up'

p.s. congrats for your new baby!

Positron · 17/11/2009 00:35

Know how you feel...been there too. Have you tried typing in breastfeeding on youtube? I have found some great videos of demonstartions for latching on, and some generally helpful tips about breastfeeding issues. Even now, 4 months down the line, I am still learning some new tricks, so give it a try?

Good luck - it does get easier

alypaly · 17/11/2009 00:57

hi....be careful DD2 is not using your boobs as a dummy. She should not need to be latched on so often.
does she have a dummy?

Dont feel guilty about letting her cry herslf to sleep to get into a better pattern. You are sore because she is latching on too much and it is probably not good for either of you.

You can buy a nipple shield to stop your nipples from getting sore or kamillosan

Try ,i know its hard,but try to relax and not put so much pressure on yourself. You have done the hard bit ...she has had all anti bodies so if you are too sore dont worry about stopping.

verylittlecarrot · 17/11/2009 02:42

eleanorsmum, it is really, really hard early on. It does get much, much better though. I thought I'd done my research but the reality of getting bf established hit me like a ton of bricks! However, it soon became and absolute joy for me and my dd, and like labour and birth, you move on and forget how hard it was for that period of time, once you're on the other side of it, of course. You are doing brilliantly. There's some great advice here about co-sleeping which may be right for you and help you to get rest whilst feeding. However not all advice on bf is completely fact-based, so do your own research if you are confused.

(my wonderful, kindly grandmother used to advise putting butter on burns. It was the most well-meaning advice, but sadly utterly wrong - even harmful. And so it goes with breastfeeding advice, people occasionally repeat what they've heard, or extrapolate from their own experience with the absolute best of intentions, but their advice is sadly, wrong.)

For facts about breastfeeding, you can rely on sites like www.kellymom.com, or the jacknewman info and videos mentioned earlier in the thread.

To avoid you potentially beating yourself up unnecessarily, I need to gently correct a couple of points on the thread (and please go and verify what I say on the breastfeeding resource websites rather than take my word for it)

some babies do feed very very frequently, and can only fall asleep at the breast when they are small. So long as they are healthy and gaining weight - this is normal behaviour. People never seem to tell you this before the baby is born, do they?! It is absolutely hard to live with sometimes, but definitely not abnormal!

A baby can't "use you as a dummy" - the dummy was invented as the substitute for you! It's normal for a baby to want to comfort suck, as normal as wanting to be cuddled. If your latch is good, it is possible to have this go on without pain or nipple damage. Do keep persevering with getting latch and positioning right so that you can bf in comfort! It may take time, but when you crack it is so worth it.

Expressing is absolutely NO indication of how much milk you produce. It's really important you know this. Some women succesfully bf exclusively for 6 months with huge chubby babies and never manage to express more than drops! How much a baby can transfer from a breast and how much a pump can get out are not related. Truly.

The way milk is made is a demand and supply process. The more frequently milk is removed by the baby from each breast, the more your body speeds up its milk production process. The longer you go between feeds, the slower the milk production becomes. Your baby is stimulating your milk supply to uild up to levels that will match her needs. Skipping or delaying feeds tells your body "no milk needed right now, cut back on production please". After a while your milk supply becomes more robust and able to cope with this better, but in the early weeks supply can be fragile, and is more likely to be affected by not following your baby's cues.

Some women manage to mix-feed successfully, as you can see from this thread! So it is certainly possible. However, many more women find that introducing formula early on leads to a sharp decrease in milk supply, and an early curtailment of breastfeeding against their wishes. It's important to decide how you would feel if you fell into that category. This isn't to imply ANY judgement on formula feeding or mixed feeding. Everyone should be able to feed exactly as they wish! Some people are OK with bf for x weeks or months and happily stop bf at their own comfort timescale; some people are very distressed when they give up bf before they wanted to. Only you know where you stand! There will be support here to help you achieve whatever feeding method you want.

Keep posting. And really, well done.

CheerfulYank · 17/11/2009 02:45

I don't have any advice for you that hasn't already been given. I just wanted give you a virtual hug and say, "oh, honey".

eleanorsmum · 17/11/2009 10:24

Thanks again for the advice, it has re-installed my faith in mumsnet! font of all knowledge!

We had a better night, tied feeding lying down which was a success! She slept well too but was a bit icky this morning about 2 hours after her feed? odd. She fed agin this morn with me being upright and is now trying to get herself to sleep! ha I say trying cos she's crying out loud! she is going quite every so often so i guess shes getting there, have picked her up a few times to reassure her but she soon stops! HV is due this morn and i bet sje arrives just as dd drops off!

Am going to keep doing one bottle a day i think, i hve taken on board it may lead to the end of bf but as many of you have said she's had all the good stuff. I'd like to do both but if not she will be fine on formula too. I'm not a saint and can only do as good as i can. I am proud of what i've done so far!

oooh she's gone quiet again................

will have a look at the latching pics posted on here, and youtube too, hadn't thought of that!

still quiet, maybe asleep, dare i look? no, stay away!

Thanks agin all, will keep posting if i get anymore probs i know where to come. I really apreciate all the virtual hugs too!

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Poohbearsmom · 17/11/2009 15:31

Im so glad the lying down feeding helped and hope it continues to improve for ye but she has only had a bit of da good stuff you've plenty more keep going and well done

gingerbreadlatte · 17/11/2009 20:32

glad you are ok. Hang in there!

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