dd (3 weeks) has a lot of painful wind both ends! any suggestions

[ninja]

I remember Mum2Toby saying when I made my birth announcement that soon I'd be asking lots of questions - she was right!

My dd (3 weeks) seems to have a lot of wind - I always try and burp her but once or twice a day she'll bring up a whole feed. She also farts a lot and particularly at night seems quite bothered straining and making pained noises (made easier if I rub her back) she's obviously bothered (and we don't get a lot of sleep!)

I am breast feeding - any suggestions as to what copuld make it better or is it just one of those things? (btw I don't drink tea or coffee, have cut out spicy food)

Thanks a lot in advance

wind her at every feed! I find food makes no diiference - after all Indian babies cope! Why should spices disagree with them?

Lie her on her tummy over your lap.
HTH

Ps OR are you over feeding?

You'll probably find it is just one of those things really, ninja. You probably had no idea how much babies farted until you had one. It is unbelievable It is normal for them to make lots of noises when trying to fill a nappy. Just think how awkward it would be for us to go to the toilet lying down.
It is also normal for them to bring up a one or two feeds. Don't be afraid to just top her back up again. If you find she is being sick a lot, try and keep her more upright for a while after feeds - like in a bouncy chair. Welcome to the joys of motherhood

codswallop, I've heard that if you avoid certain foods during pregancy, or simply don't eat them because of sickness or heartburn and then introduce those foods when breastfeeding the baby can react. If you eat curry when pregnant apparently your amnio fluid will have a curry flavour to it, so baby gets used to it. Don't know if its true though

Ninja, apparently certain things in your diet can cause wind in babies, might be worth keeping a record and seeing if it makes a difference. Apparently lots of dairy products can make babies windy, tomatoes, mushrooms and chocolate are also supposed to be culprits. Don't know how true this is, I suppose it could well vary from baby to baby.
My dd was also very windy as a baby, farted for Britain, and in the first couple of months was quite colicky in the evenings. Things improved when I got into a proper routine and structured her feeds a bit more.
Good luck and hope things improve for you both.

thanks - i deliberately ate lots of curry while pregnant to try and get her used to it, but she seems so uncomfortable i'll try anything. i have been topping her up after she's sick mears, problem is now she seems to want to feed constantly when she's awake - i have to give her to dp when he's here so it is possible she's overfeeding, codswallop.

i feel like i'm being an anxious mum, but you don't know what's normal so thanks mears. you might be right melly - i'm veggie so dairy, chocolate, tomatoes and mushrooms are all staples of my diet - i'll have to try and be more inventive.

i guess i was lucky - for 2 weeks she was perfect! and still is when midwives/hv's call!attention seeking, likes her food, good with visitors... sounds like unfortunately she takes after me

yes try jiggling around instead of feeding - look for rooting to show shes hungry rather than just tired

I do try and jiggle - but if I put her any where near my chest she practically headbuts me and gets very upset if I ignore this - sometimes she'll settle with dp, sometimes not! we both like our food so I guess she's destined to be wel built.

luckily I seem to have tough nipples

yes try jiggling around instead of feeding - look for rooting to show shes hungry rather than just tired

i have certainly found with both ds's that cutting out dairy from my diet made a big difference with wind/colic. wheat is the other major offender apparently????

do you mind if i also hijack your thread with some more breastfeeding questions with my 2 week old? ds seems to have some feeds (especially night feeds) where he just constantly bobs on and off the breast, whilst also finding it difficult to latch on - yet still frantically roots when i take him off. i'm not sure if it is wind or whether he is actually just tired?????? what does anyone think? any suggestions would be most welcome.

wind

Sounds like wind. Also he is only 2 weeks old - not much of an expert at the old feeding yet (him, not you )

I have that as well Percy, didn't know that could be wind, - although I have to say she feeds a lot better when we're both lying down (and I can fall asleep). Thanks for hyjacking the thread - more answers!

thanks - have tried burping him when he gets like that - but few results. maybe it has worked itsway too far down - but suprisingly few farts. midwife discharged us today - he was 9lb at birth and is now 10lbs6!!!!!! not suprising seeing as he is feeding every bloomin 2hrs!!!!!!

I found that although wind didn't come up straight away - it was sometimes wise to keep them upright as it eased gradually and came out one end or the other!!

This isn't a recommendation but ds2 (2 weeks) is also suffering. MW advised using detinox which I've tried, but ds2 loathes it. My suspicions were raised when he suddenly gulped a half-spoon down - I went and checked and I had given him lactulose (I've also been suffering post c/s!). I did try to flush the stuff out, but he did seem to have swallowed it. No ill-effects and no wind for a day or two (though plenty of dirty nappies...).

I'm having some success with keeping him upright and rubbing or patting his bottom (idea is that he can concentrate on the right area).

3 suggestions:

Try drinking fennel tea. I got this from a mumsnet thread when ds was teeny. Make a cup of fennel tea by leaving the teabag overnight in a sterilised bottle of boiling water. The following morning give the baby a couple of teaspoonsful and drink the rest yourself. It worked really well for me and both babies, especially for downstairs wind, not so well for upstairs wind.

Also, with dd I found that getting at least one long gap between feeds helped enourmously. ie, while she was still feeding 2 hourly, to get a gap of 3 hours once or twice in every 24, and once she was feeding 3 hoursly, to get a gap of 4 hours once or twice in every 24.

Finally, don't let the baby cry bitterly before feeding as that often makes them gulp air.

thanks milch - will buy some fennel tea today and stop drinking peppermint tea which i drink by the gallon load

sorry to bring it up but positioning can be the key. A bf guru (Chloe Fisher) helped a friend of mine having similar problem by a small change in position. Her baby was filling up on fore milk that was fermenting in the intestine and causing bubbly poo too. no way could this be "burped" as was forming lower down. The change in position meant she got more hind milk and was a happy baby in days! the change was to make sure babies nose was inline with nipple at start and had to lift head to get to breast. A mouthfull of breast with nipple aimed at roof of mouth this meant it went right down baby's throat. Finding it hard to discribe! hope this helps and doesn't confuse.

My little boy was similar to this. Went to a homeopath who gave us granules callrd Chammomilla (not at all sure about the spelling h is silent) You can get it from boots ask the pharmacist. Crush granules between two spoons and drop under baby's tongue. Several of my freinds used in subsequently to great success.

is he/she lactose intolernat....demand test from GP

Are you on a mission Shalenmatt?????

I was really surprised to see this thread there again 6 months on - it did make me remember just how windy she used to be poor soul - to anyone out there it does get better at about 3 months. She still is smellier with some foods though.

pupuce....yes i am.have issues with wysoy and its affects..think too many parents misdiagnosed for easiest option...my son was never lactose intolerant as diagnosed..prescribed wysoy...drank lots uptil 17mths out of bottle..lost most of his top teeth..ever taken a child at 3 to hospital watched him be put to sleep then wake up with most of his top teeth missing and lots of blood...i'm supposed to protect him..wouldn't mind if he ate sweets and drank pop but never liked taste...can't now cos last 3 teeth he has need to last him until 2nd set come.....