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Help,BF is SO painful,don't know what to do.........

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Mirage · 23/05/2005 20:31

I'm hoping someone can give me some advice,I am a bf novice as dd1 refused the breast & only ever had about half a dozen breast feeds- I had to express milk for her.DD2 is now here & seems very keen on breastfeeding,so I really want to make it work.

She was born early on Saturday & went onto the breast straight away & fed fairly frequently until yesterday,when she fed every 2 hours or less around the clock.She sometimes feeds for 10 minutes,sometimes an hour,sometimes 1 boob,sometimes both.I have to say that it is absolute agony-I have blisters on both of my nipples & yelp with pain when she latches on.

Is it normal for a new baby to feed this often?What can I do about the pain?My midwife says that her latch seems ok & that things should improve now my milk is in,but I was nearly in tears with the pain at her last feed & am dreading tonight.I feel awful because the poor little thing seems to love breastfeeding so much,but I dread feeding her.I really want this to work,but can't go on like this & am tempted to send dh out for formula,which I know in the long term,I will regret doing.

Can anyone offer any advice? I'm completely clueless as to how I can improve things.

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Troilus · 27/05/2005 20:11

I have to say that I was pretty much in pain for the first 12 weeks. Then it started to get better and better and I am still breastfeeding at 8 months and did exclusively for 6 months. I found it so painful at first my eyes watered and my nipples bled and my baby vomited pink stuff all over the place. It was horrible. My advice is stick with it and it is worth the pain.

popsycal · 27/05/2005 20:16

lansinoh
i have an unopened tube
would you like it?

popsycal · 27/05/2005 20:16

also ring nct or la leche league

hewlettsdaughter · 28/05/2005 16:03

Hi Mirage, about a year ago I was going through exactly the same thing as you. The pain is awful, isn't it - and I used to hate it when dd started snuffling for a feed as I knew what was coming...

Lots of good advice here. It's definitely worth getting expert help if you can. I think things improved for me once I got help from an independent midwife and breastfeeding counsellor. I think also it was a matter of time... dd's mouth got bigger and she got more expert at feeding. The first few weeks are very hard - hang on in there if you can (though if it proves too much, you've done your best, you shouldn't blame yourself!).

hewlettsdaughter · 28/05/2005 16:06

Here 's the thread I started last year (very similar thread title!)

Mummymonster · 28/05/2005 16:46

Hello there!

You've probably heard all this already but here's my two pen'orth/experience.

DS loved bfing, at 3 weeks he was feeding for 20 mins a time every 90 mins, he was becoming a broach but you need earlier stuff than that.

I found the initial pain was awful, my bf supporter friend called it 'the 10 second toe curler'! Basically, if the pain went on past 10 seconds, the positioning wasn't quite right, so I popped him off (break the seal by putting the little finger in the corner of his mouth)and tried again. DH had much mirth at me drumming my feet on the laminate floor at the initial latch on. I had cracked bleeding nips for a few days too. My wonderful MW suggested rubbing a little of my own milk into them and it works like magic.

my advice is

Don't worry too much. Yes it's awful at first but it does get better quickly (by the 3 weeks you could have put bulldog clips on my nipples and I wouldn't have noticed )

Check your positioning, remember that you're breast feeding, not nipple feeding so make sure your babe has a good mouthful of areola as well as nipple. I found the mantra of 'tummy to tummy, nipple to nose' worked really well for me.

Relax. It's never perfect all the time or everytime at first. If the positioning trick doesn't work, stop, have a cuppa then try again. Please don't be hard on yourself.

I had times when I thought I couldn't do it. I used to set myself little targets (1st 3 weeks, 1st 6 weeks, back to birthweight, double lowest weight, double birthweight) I'd see how I felt after each one. By 2x lowest weight he was onto solids and I wasn't looking back.

Remember, it's early days, It does get better and very soon you'll be enjoying it (honest!). Well done for trying and even if you choose to chuck the towel in, be proud of yourself for giving it a go.

FYI, I managed 13.5 months of feeding DS and I am proud to say he never had any formula at all.

You can do it, big hugs and all the very best with it.

kama · 28/05/2005 17:02

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Chandra · 28/05/2005 17:13

I had pain and blood blisters for almost three weeks, midwives and health visitors said the latching was perfect but still the problem continued and after some time I gave up. Looking back, I wish I have had access to a BF counselour (i didn't know about Mumsnet yet and I have no friends with kids or family around), if you have the numbers don't hesitate to ring, if it can save you a day of misery is well worth it. Hope you feel better soon.

Hausfrau · 28/05/2005 19:10

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hewlettsdaughter · 28/05/2005 22:08

Really? Have you always been Hausfrau?

I am still feeding dd - she's 13 months now.

Mirage - hope you're ok.

Hausfrau · 29/05/2005 09:04

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Mirage · 29/05/2005 15:42

Things are starting to improve,thanks to all your support & advice.

I restarted the breastfeeding again on Friday,after a 48 hour 'break' & it was so much better.Hardly painful at all.She was still hungry afterwards,so had to be topped up,but I expected that,as using the pump isn't as efficent as a feeding baby & my boobs had probably readjusted.

Hewlettsdaughter-your experience seems very similar to mine-I'm very fair skinned too,so maybe that has something to do with it.

Popsycal,thanks for your kind offer-it is really thoughtful.Dh has already been out & bought some as he heard the midwife reccomend it,but thanks .

Now my next challenge is to stop dd2 going to sleep as soon as she gets latched on,she seems to find it relaxing.

Oops,must go-dd1 is on her way down the garden.

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hewlettsdaughter · 29/05/2005 21:10

Hope things continue to improve Mirage

Hausfrau - I feel ridiculously pleased that someone on mn (other than on the April 2004 post-natal thread) remembers me! How sad am I...

rodeo1 · 29/05/2005 23:07

Oh mirage can completely relate to the pain you're going through. BF both dd and ds my nipples just simply used to breakdown (had serious cracks in nipples) and then heal up a bit hardier.

I think some women's skin isn't tough enough in the first place for constant feeds. I was in tears alot and contemplated giving up loads.

I got through it by smearing nipples in some lanolin based product and using silk breast pads - got them from little green earthlets I think.

I also switched to the occasional bottle of formula when I really couldn't bear it and expressed excess milk off. Think I may have done this on a few occasions for about 2 feeds at a time.

And ds went back on to being fully breastfed with no formula when I felt able - which was about 3 weeks in. It didn't affect my milk supply but I did make sure he was BF for about 75% of feeds.

Hope this helps, I'm pg again with no.3 and I'm sure it will happen again as my skin is fairly sensitive (and I'm sure this has a lot to do with it) although I have to say I am dreading it. Total toe curling agony!

It was definitely worth it in the end though, I really hope you can get through it too but with another child to look after I know it is very hard.

But you will only be in pain for a short time, it does get really really easy especially at night, no bottles to contend with and the health benefits are amazing!

Wishing you the best of luck with it, congratulations on your lovely daughter BTW x x x

rodeo1 · 29/05/2005 23:12

Gosh I really missed the boat on this one! Really should read threads thoroughly before I post

Really brill news that it's getting easier although I'm still dreading those first few weeks myself!!

I'm sure you'll be the one giving me advice come November when it'll feel like my nipples are going to fall off!

SaintGeorge · 16/08/2006 22:23

Bump for lanismum

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