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A thread written for DH/DPs to read, so that they can support their breastfeeding DW

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HeinzSight · 19/07/2009 21:20

I'm having baby number 4 in a few weeks and am determined (again) to make a go of breastfeeding, I couldn't quite manage it with the last three, various problems, the main being post natal depression. DH has always been happy to support me with whatever my decision has been.

I've done lots of research and started many threads on this topic and have realised what a big role DH can play in giving you the determination to continue BF.

The reason I've started this thread is so that men can read it and have more of an insight into their role where breastfeeding is concerned and what a woman needs from him to enable her to stick with it. I'm going to ask my DH to read this when it's full enough

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idontbelieveit · 19/07/2009 22:30

x posts with cece, great minds!

Grendle · 19/07/2009 23:39

Be prepared to call in reinforcements for DW/DP if she needs them but is finding it too hard to seek help, but you feel she needs more support. Dhs/DPs can ring bf helplines too and talk things through with an expert, or introduce themselves and then hand the phone over to DW/DP. Find out the numbers in advance and put them somewhere you won't lose them. Take her to a bf support group if there is one locally.

Taking as much paternity leave as possible can be helpful, in terms of being able to take over as many other domestic duties (housework, cooking, childcare) as possible. it's hard work, but it will be appreciated .

If mum reaches the end of her tether, then you can be a wonderful pair of soothing arms for the baby. Dads can rock, sing, walk, push buggy, drive baby in car, carry baby in sling etc. Do bear in mind though that newborns feed v frequently, so breaks can only be short initially, but long enough at least for mum to go to the loo or take a shower . You know her best and know what makes her tick and will make her feel better. Whether it's washing her hair, doing her make-up, having 20 mins in the bath alone, eating a bar of chocolate, watching a box set of a favourite TV show (while bf!), spending 15 mins reading 1-2-1 with her older child, a favourite book or newspaper, chatting to a friend on the phone or whatever. Little things can really perk new mums up when they might be feeling low or tired.

Try not to offer solutions or problem solve the breastfeeding if possible. Leave this to the expert support you will have recruited for her. Your role is to be unstintingly supportive and encouraging. Provide food, drinks, hugs, shoulder rubs and loads and loads of words of gentle encouragement.

Recognise the importance that your DW/DP may attach to bf. You may not immediately be able to understand it, but for many mums it goes way beyond a method of getting calories into a baby. Formula can seem like a quick and easy solution, especially if things are difficult and perhaps the one you love is sobbing or some such similar situation. You want to make it better. It's understandable. But, sometimes you need to bear in mind the longer term. how will she feel about this tomorrow? Next week? In a month?

3am is never a good time to make any big decisions.

Nappy changing time is a great time to smile at and play with your baby. Pay attention to nappy contents in the first week or more too. They are the clearest sign of milk intake, which is one of the clues as to how bf is going. Read up on this in advance .

Grendle · 19/07/2009 23:50

MrGrendle adds:

Stay calm

Be prepared to play second fiddle by quite a long way and don't take it personally (quite possibly applies however baby's fed [wink)

Remind your DW/DP to trust her instincts

Be aware that you'll have to do loads round the house. Don't expect her to feed the baby and do anything else she used to. Learn to cook at least one proper meal, and no not beans on toast!

Help her if she wants it, and that means getting up in the night too if she wants.

HeinzSight · 20/07/2009 10:00

I am SO glad I've started this thread, there are some brilliant posts here.

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floradora · 20/07/2009 10:45

buy your DW/DP a boxed set of her favourite DVD and make sure the remote is within reach
DON'T suggest that she expresses everything for a day so that you can measure it all carefully in the manner of some obsessed scientist just so that you can be "sure exactly how much milk DC is getting"

tiktok · 20/07/2009 11:09

Blimey, flora, did that happen to you?

nellyup · 20/07/2009 11:10

Remember when you pack the changing bag to go out with the family for the day that you need, along with the nappies/ spare clothes etc for the baby
-breastpads
-spare top for dw (in very early days anyway)
-muslin
-cereal bar
-bottle of water

confusedfirsttimemum · 20/07/2009 11:11

Buy your DW an insulated mug (like you see commuters using). That way, once you have gone back to work, she will still be able to drink her tea when it is hot.

Use your common sense and do not pass the baby to DW saying "I think he's hungry" every time he cries. This may often be the case, but it will not always be. If you do this every 20 minutes all day and night, you will just create paranoia over whether she is creating enough milk/has the right latch. I know a man who did this and, whilst he thought he was being helpful, he wrecked his partner's confidence. If he's just eaten, try the obvious nappy/cuddle, etc things first.

IsItMeOr · 20/07/2009 11:27

Confused - hear hear to the not passing the baby to DW every time! But also, if you've been walking the crying baby around for an hour, it would probably have been a good idea to check if he was still hungry after 10minutes or so. Don't be a martyr!

TheNatty · 20/07/2009 12:03

above all do not say
"if things dont get better in a week we are switching to formula"
my DH did this to me (one week in) and made me feel like there was a deadline that i had to 'perfect' breastfeeding in

other posts on here really sum up how to help best what a great thread

TheNatty · 20/07/2009 12:10

oh and dont say "moo" when she has a double pump on...

theyoungvisiter · 20/07/2009 12:20

Some great practical advice here. I would add:

be proud of her if it's going well

be supportive of her if it's not.

Know that according to research, the father's attitude to the importance of breastfeeding was one of the key factors in influencing whether women breastfed successfully or not. Some studies found it was the most important factor.

So your role really, really, really does count.

suwoo · 20/07/2009 12:31

Heinz will you email me on [email protected]

I have tried to catch you a few times about our plan to be 'bf buddies'. Only 10 days to go for me now

funnypeculiar · 20/07/2009 12:34

Seconding a few things people have already said:

  • if your dw wants to give up at 3am, accept that's how she's feeling, but suggest making decisions in the morning (when you're hopefully slightly rested)
  • acknowledge her feelings of fear/inadequacy etc etc but continue to express confidence and wonder at the fablous job she's doing. Dh would look at me feeding and tell me how proud he was of me
  • do as much as you can during night feeds - nappy changing can be done by either party
  • provide a few lie-ins/naps - take the babe downstairs out of earshot
  • learn enough to be able to tell people why you/your dw have chosen bf - helped a lot that dh could tell his family some well-chosen facts, rather than everything having to come from me.

And finally, one that I suspect wouldn't work for everyone, but dh's delight and wonder at the ever-increasing size of my norks helped both of us

eclairea · 20/07/2009 12:58

Buy/borrow from the library lots of 'books on tape/cd'. I had harry potter, michael palin, david attenborough, philip pullman etc. Can also recommend the BBC Paul Temple detective stories. They are brilliant for night feeds as you can listen to them with your eyes shut! So DH should pick up the baby, bring to you, switch the tape on/change the CD etc.

ActivityApple · 20/07/2009 13:10

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HeinzSight · 20/07/2009 13:38

suwoo, just tried to reply but my email's playing up!! Are you on fb?

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shootfromthehip · 20/07/2009 13:48

When your DW is struggling with a wee baby who is not putting on weight and neither she nor baby are 'enjoying' BF then do not, I repeat DO NOT say 'well cows do it, I mean how hard can it be?'. Spot who's married to a farm boy!

thedolly · 20/07/2009 13:56

Be prepared to comfort a hungry crying baby by pacing the floor with them from time to time when DW's nipples need a break from the marathon sucking event that is a growth spurt.

suwoo · 20/07/2009 14:05

Yes, I am on the MN group. Not that hard to find, my mn name is a giveaway.

dawntigga · 20/07/2009 18:29

tell her you love her and you're really proud that although it's hardwork she's persevered and won through you always new she would.

Let's face it ladies most of us have had days when we would happily have given up and when dp said this to me it made it a bit easier

Oh and copious quantities of whatever your poison is (e.g. ice cream/chocolate).

Never complain that dw/p has become Queen of the Remote.

Ask 'what do you need me to do to help', not 'you need to do x, y or z'.

Tell her you love her

Tell her she's beautiful and even more beautiful when feeding

Hoover/clean up do it in a way she doesn't feel guilty! Don't expect to be rewarded for cleaning but do it anyway - there will be benefits

NEVER EVER complain you're tired, it will make her want to stab you with a spoon until you bleed out over the carpet.

Quietly go off and prep her fav drink then ask her what she'd like to drink and make that instead

I'veGotAFabDPTiggaxx

GYo · 21/07/2009 01:03

As others have said, dont suggest formula at every hitch

when your DW is saying she is tired from the night feeding try and sympathise, offer hugs and DONT say " it's your choice to BF, I cant help with that, no point both of us being awake"

accept that you arent the expert on BFing and the midwives and other HCPs probably do know more than you- dont be offended if your DW doesnt listen to your suggestions but listens to MWs etc.

Great thread

HeinzSight · 21/07/2009 13:01

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Poledra · 21/07/2009 13:15

DO NOT moo at your wife when she is using a double pump to express milk for your baby who is in SCBU - yes, you might think it will relieve the tension a bit, but actually it will probably just make her cry.

Don't be harsh about it - when I thought about giving up bfeeding with DD1, DH said some unpleasant things about not trying for long enough. He said later that he only said them to push me into keeping going as he knew I would regret it. Yes, I probably would have done but it still hurts when I think of what he said.

Cut up her food for her so she can eat when she is feeding at the table.

TheNatty · 21/07/2009 18:30

Poledra you had that too eh? tho sometimes when pumping dont u feel like a cow? lol