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Infant feeding

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quick help needed please

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soon2befamilyof4 · 27/04/2009 21:27

sorry for rushed post but baby screaming and I am in pain. so baics:

DD2 born on friday
not enjoying feeding. having trouble with latch and finding very painful.
dont want to give up BF as I did it for 8 months last time and plan the same sort of thing for this one.

I have loads of milk so def don't need to go down the formula route. BUT i want to know, if I express some milk, and feed it to her in a bottle or something, will I jsut make all my problems worse? I am SO sore, it is now at the point I dread her waking from a sleep, and want to cry everytime I know she needs feeding.

Pump in sterlizer as we speak but wanted to ask here first.

PLEASE say there is somebody around to help?!

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kitkatqueen · 28/04/2009 14:35

Me too I used to give the spare to the other kids - I was advised not to give the milk cold / room temp for the 1st couple of months, just I think on the basis that new babies have difficulty regulating their body temp and if you give them a cold drink it can cause a big drop in body temp.

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soon2befamilyof4 · 29/04/2009 00:58

Things a bit better today. Had a nightmare morning with it and couldn't do anything but feed EBM really. But then got on better in the afternoon and had a couple of good feeds with little latching problems. I tried midwife this morning who said that she was too busy to come today unless it was an emergency and as I was managing to express milk, I wasn't high enough priority as she was at least getting milk.

I also found there are breastfeeding groups near me, but none were today. There is something on tomorrow, but it depends on what time the midwife comes tomorrow as I have to wait in for her.

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kitkatqueen · 29/04/2009 13:34

soon - I have never met a midwife who was able to help as much as a b/feeding group. I would ring her and tell her to come the following day and get yourself to the group. good luck - you just need to heal a bit and get that latch sorted...

smurfette15 · 29/04/2009 14:02

Agree.....go to breastfeeding group and tell your midwife to come at a different time as you're "too busy" and she isn't "high enough priority". Bloody cheek!!!

MiniMarmite · 29/04/2009 14:07

Haven't read the whole post so sorry if I'm repeating anything but just thought I would share my experience in case it helps.

I had very painful nipples so expressed from day 3 and everything was fine re nipple confusion etc (but I do know that this can sometimes be an issue).

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soon2befamilyof4 · 29/04/2009 14:46

I didn't see that message until it was too late. MW has been and helped again - we will see when I have to do it on my own. She was better than the last one though. There is another group on friday - none of these are in my borough/county - does that matter? And it is at a different hospital to where the midwife is coming from, and from where I gave birth?

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kitkatqueen · 29/04/2009 14:48

no idea can u ring them??

I went to a bfn grp fabulous... back l8r

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soon2befamilyof4 · 29/04/2009 15:30

I have just had a really good feed and nice cuddle with DD2 so hoping this is sorting itself out. Athough I got carried away with the cuddle and she stayed in just her nappy on curled up with me for ages - I didn't notice her nappy was completly leaking (size 1 newborn seem huge on her for some reason) and by the time i went to move her - I was covered in wee and poo all down my leg. I didn't even feel it!

Only thing though - midwife said she should feed for 20 mins or so at a time so that she gets the hind milk properly - she never seems to feed this long (although I haven't been timing so maybe I should start). Does it matter? She seems satisfied after the feed and will then sleep well. I obviously feed her again as soon as she seems to want it.

Really hoping to win this battle! Lol. I BF for 8 months before and was hoping to do the same sort of thing with DD2 - or even better a year as I won't be pregnant this time so might find it easier (Preg and BF together and ended up draining myself a bit with annemia and deficiencies which is the main reason I stopped when I did).

Sorry babbled on a bit there!

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kitkatqueen · 29/04/2009 15:56

No, your not babbling! Good for you for a fabulous feed! Well done!! Most people on here agree that timing feeds is not a good idea, every baby is different and if you have a really fast letdown that she can cope with then she will get a lot in a short time. If she does start to get too much fore milk her poo will go from a creamy mustard to greenish and eventually v green. So essentially you will know.

I prefer the squish test as in how hard was boob to start with and how hard after... The other good method of being sure a bf baby is getting enough is the nappy thud test. If you drop a wet nappy on the floor and it goes thud then there is plenty of wee going through.

Lastly I give everyone this piece of advice, because I wish it had been given to me sooner! If you already know I apologise! During pregs and b/feeding you can take Spatone to keep your iron levels up ( you buy it in boots and its a completely natural form of iron that doesn't upset your tummy) Solgar do a completely natural vitamin called solgar prenatal nutrients which again are natural and don't cause a lot of the probs that others do.

Sorry I know thats a lot of info but its my version of a pinch of prevention being worth a pound of cure. ( I am still feeding ds (16mnths) and am 24 weeks pregs)

You will succeed at this, you have already decided that you are going too and you will.

StarlightMcKenzie · 29/04/2009 16:02

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soon2befamilyof4 · 29/04/2009 16:56

Thanks. Yes I am taking spatone at the moment and it is great. It meant I got my birthing centre birth I wanted. I didn't know I was annemic at the time (hospital messed up my bloods) and thought it was just bad pregnancy tiredness etc. But I felt so awful, and was nearly fainting a lot of the time.

I will ignore the timing thing then. I am sure my DD used to feed for 5 mins or so at a time - BUT she was constantly on the boob (a bit older than this).

Thank you so much for all your help. I will let you know how I get on at the next feed, which should be soon.

What do you think about the whole waking for feeds thing? She wakes ok for feeds in the day but at night she will sleep say 12-6 which I obviously like as I sleep but the MW said I should wake her? She has Jaundice, but not at any worrying level and has lost around 6-7% of her birth weight (which she told me today but doesn't mean much to me).

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kitkatqueen · 29/04/2009 21:18

hmm, don't know about waking, I never woke any of mine. I did dream-feed my smallest bub, but that was mainly to stop her from waking if you see what I mean? My no 3 had mild jaundice and I was never told to wake him but he was 9lb at birth... I think the worry is if they lose 20% of birth weight, but not 100% sure...I generally feel tho' that if they are hungry they will wake and have a kind of "never wake a sleeping baby rule" lol!really you have 3 choices, don't wake her, wake her, or dream-feed her until her next weigh in and see where you stand then?

Your call on that one, although hopefully more advice will appear now that most peoples kids are in bed, (phew!! roll on friday when dp gets home )

So glad u found the spatone already its fabulous stuff

smurfette15 · 30/04/2009 10:57

Bumping for you as don't know for sure but i was told to wake DS as he had jaundice. 6 hrs seems a long time to go without a feed at this age.

Hopefully someone clever will come along .

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soon2befamilyof4 · 30/04/2009 15:37

Thanks, she woke by herself last night. I wake her while I am awake, but it is at the point where if I want to wake her again for a feed - I would be litterally setting an alarm clock to wake me up! I will try tonight to give her a dreamfeed if she doesn't wake up. Or just waking her enough for a bit of milk so she has at least had something.

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kitkatqueen · 30/04/2009 21:10

bump

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