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VictorianSqualorSquelchNSquirm · 18/10/2008 23:38

Clare byam-cook.
Am I the only person to have seen her terrible co-sleeping interview the other day?

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LadyOfRoffle · 18/10/2008 23:53

I nearly rang in, I used to like E Holmes. Saying it was usually older one child mothers, and disorganised ones at that. I am 22, have 2 so far and have co-slept with both. Wanker indeed.

VictorianSqualorSquelchNSquirm · 18/10/2008 23:54

She also said that the woman who refused to give her baby formula milk because they 'undermined breastfeeding' was wrong. What they don't?
I've noticed every time she is on This morning she is there in a 'professional' capacity versus a mother. Normally a lentil weaving mother too. Fixed?

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SnoopDog · 18/10/2008 23:54

squalor, i didnt mean you said that, sorry,

she did in her web waffle,

i just dont understand how she claims it is different?

PoppyCoc · 18/10/2008 23:54

Yes he did, apparently its all down to organisation

VictorianSqualorSquelchNSquirm · 18/10/2008 23:54

he did snoop, he said it was usually unorganised parents that did it.

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PoppyCoc · 18/10/2008 23:56

Eamonn

VictorianSqualorSquelchNSquirm · 18/10/2008 23:57

Just reading this she is a private counsellor, that charges £120 per hour. No wonder she wants free advertisement!!!

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SnoopDog · 18/10/2008 23:57

[disorganised mum emotion]

SnoopDog · 18/10/2008 23:58

just out of interest,

when do you stop co sleeping?

CharCharBaGOOOOOOORE · 18/10/2008 23:58

I believe it is fixed. I have since I saw the Stella Onions interview. Presenters were on CBC's side and Stella's parenting was basically attacked. The others I've seen since have been no different. Lentil-weaver gets criticised and have to defend themselves on their own.

I'll admit to being disorganised, but that's not why I cosleep. It's to maximise sleep for all parties and give DD the comfort she obviously needs. Oh how scandalous and controversial

VictorianSqualorSquelchNSquirm · 18/10/2008 23:58

To her critics? horror, Byam-Cook encourages her patients to mix breast and bottle feeds. ?A little expressed milk now and then,? she says. ?There?s no such thing as nipple/teat confusion.

I bet many posters could disagree with her there. I think MN should get her on.

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LadyOfRoffle · 18/10/2008 23:59

It's like attatchment parenting is wrong hence ignorant mum vs. 'The Expert'. When will they have LW experts on???

ruddynorah · 19/10/2008 00:00

e holmes and wife are big big GF fans. they featured heavily in that documentary about her. saying how utterly fab she is and anyone who finds her book doesn't work for them is doing it run.

fark off.

CharCharBaGOOOOOOORE · 19/10/2008 00:00

Eamonn's married to that Ruth, isn't he? They had Claire Verity out to help with their newborns. She said in an interview with CV on This Morning. Pretty clear where they stand.

Snoop, you stop when you want to, or the child wants to stop. I am gently encouraging DD to sleep longer in her cot now at 14 months, but as she's teething she needs the comfort and I'm happy to give it to her. Am hoping she will be out of my bed in time for the next baby.

SnoopDog · 19/10/2008 00:01

i dont agree with her 'there is no such thing' as nipple confusion,

but i do think some babies are ok/better at dealing with the swop and change than others perhaps (not making those babies any brighter/smarter etc)

surely it is all about what you know/learn/experience

LadyOfRoffle · 19/10/2008 00:02

His wife is a rude wally anyway, don't really hold her opinion very high on whatever she is droning on about. Oooooooo I wish I had rung in.

VictorianSqualorSquelchNSquirm · 19/10/2008 00:03

Snoop. I stopped co-sleeping with DS2 about a month ago, when he was 5 months and he moved away from me rather than continued to suckle once asleep. He sleeps great now in his own room, for both naps and night sleeps.

I really can't entwine bad sleepers with co-sleepers, my 3 have always slept wonderfully. Co-sleeping does not + no routine.

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CharCharBaGOOOOOOORE · 19/10/2008 00:03

VS I think that's an excellent idea. Bet she wouldn't dare come on here though. If nipple confusion doesn't exist, then why does the term itsel exist? And how does it happen to people?

ruddynorah · 19/10/2008 00:03

i switched off when she started saying about how many former co sleepers who are now adults she has found to be having difficulties forming normal adult intimate relationships...

VictorianSqualorSquelchNSquirm · 19/10/2008 00:05

I'm asking mn for her here

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SnoopDog · 19/10/2008 00:05

lol at 'in time for the next baby'

i love having dd in with me, dp works nights so it does not have much effect on our sex life anyway,

some of my friends have bottle fed, some bf and started mixing at 3 months, some have only bf,

all of those babies have developed on thier own, some of them like bf, some of them are better mixed fed, some are happier on ff alone,

they are all different, as are we

CharCharBaGOOOOOOORE · 19/10/2008 00:05

Did she actually say that, ruddynorah? What utter bollocks. I coslept a lot as a child, as did DP. As far as I can tell we're getting on just fine.

LadyOfRoffle · 19/10/2008 00:06

DS1 co-slept as long as he wanted (in and out of bedside cot for 2 years, mainly because his bedroom wasn't ready for him though) and is never denied a place in the bed but is more than happy to toddle off to his own bed ever since he was introduced to it. DS2 co-sleeps, BFs on demand and has slept through, or woke once a night since 2/3 weeks! Even if I wake him to move him he is more than happy to go back to sleep just lying next to me. I wouldn't wipe my arse on the lot of them.

CharCharBaGOOOOOOORE · 19/10/2008 00:08

Exactly, Snoop. That's why I hate these experts putting babies into neat little compartments.

LadyOfRoffle · 19/10/2008 00:09

I was in and out of mums bed until I was about... 13 I guess, maybe abit younger but I am perfectly normal! It was more a question of not having to share with my sister than some sort of "I still need my mummy 24/7 @ 13" type thing. Dangerous, some peoples attitude. I do not know of any other mammals where they send their young off 'over there' to sleep (could be wrong though).