What do we think of Kirstie Allsopp's link with SMA?

[hunkermunker]

I am slightly less than utterly unimpressed You?

And yes, of course, it's her decision, yada-yada, but what a shit decision it was.

Kirstie, I knock walls down in your general direction.

Info on breastfeeding from the formula manufacturers is often basically ok (though not always) but with subtle put-offs. They want you to start breastfeeding - they really do. Why? Because women who start bf and who then switch to formula keep their babies on formula for longer (as opposed to moving to cows milk) - and the toddler milks and junior milks we now see are for them.

Women who start off ff do not need to be promoted to, especially.

But the hard market to reach is mothers who have started to breastfeed - they need to be woo'ed and schmoozed. They are outside the contact of the maternity hospital and may not see their HV very often either.They need to have a memory of a product they have seen in pregnancy, or current reminders of it.

They do not want to hear any dissing of breastfeeding, but they do need to have reassurance that formula is fine if they are going to buy it. You will never hear a formula manufacturer say 'use of our product has the following risks' or 'using our product means your baby increases his risk of needing hospital treatment'. However you will hear guff about the importance of diet when you are breastfeeding...a subtle put off.

does anyone have info re; Kirstie's agent? I would love to send her a little note...

oh what folk will do for some pennies in their pockets....

talking of pennies in pockets, have you lot SEEN how much formula costs these days? aptamil's £7.98 ffs! it was £6.35 two and a half years ago. greedy bastards.

and am v disappointed in Kirstie. thought she had more sense.

cheaper for babies to drink strongbow and special brew no?
am so glad ive bf saved loads! Have one box of hipp o follow on that I bought when on strong painkillers for nerve pain when ds2 was 11mths but he preferred cows milk! Then back on boob afterwards...
finally self weaned at 15 mths I say that but if he wakes in the night he still has a few drops
whoops sorry self indulgent thread hijack

i would like to get in touch with her, but i'm not sure it's appropriate to post her home address on here..would you ask for it to be deleted?

Tiktok, that wasn't meant as a dig. The political threads are the ones that stay in active convos which means that people who don't come direct to the feeding board don't see the hoards of people requesting and getting help on the board. My point (sorry, badly made) was that HG might not see us all giving "RL" help to people and think we just spend our time complaining about formula advertising.

Her home address is on the internet anyway - try google, yahoo etc etc etc.

i think that's a bit different than posting it on here

Been deleted. Fair one.

Just got a bit carried away!

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Aitch, talking of how much formula costs, have you seen the Heinz/Farley's furore?

Actually, surely you have. It's been all over MN!

(In France, formula is double the price of any here - between 18 and 22 euro for a 900g tub - wonder if that's what they're aiming for here?).

'Sokay, Bump

Hunker - you may be right about the European thing. We need a European retail/consumer products specialist to tell us if it's likely.

no, i haven't. i saw it mentioned and didn't know what people were talking about. i have Been Away, stonking around South England in a spotty dress.

I reckon they'll all go up in price now Farley's has left the building.

I was shocked at the price of formula in France - and some of the "science" on the tubs - my French quite rusty, but I think a lot of it was stuff that wouldn't be acceptable over here.

Hunker, I've mailed you btw.

Oh, of course! How was it? And the driving?

In a nutshell, Heinz have rebranded Farley's as Heinz Nurture, added some ingredient that's been tested on about five babies and doubled the price (nearly). People are A Bit Cross.

... about as much as I think about her alliance with the Tory party

I don't actually care what she thinks about bf/formula or her political leanings, but I do think as a public figure she is promoting by association.

She is brainless This is on par with her tory allegiance and her fight to abolish stamp duty for first time buyers when everyone knows that what they need is for prices to fall so that they can afford them not a measley percentage off an overpriced house and a huge mortgage.She talks a lot but says little.

the stamp duty thing is hilarious, isn't it? or the proposal to give £5000 to first time buyers (and thus increase the price of first-time type properties by exactly £5000).

It was the way they promoted it on the show which made me . 'We are working with the Conservative Party ... yada yada'. She fell off my estimation scale at that point - good shoes and skirts or not. I want to watch a crummy property show, not a party political broadcast for the milk snatcher party.

Oooh, it goes deep

Still, back to the SMA debate ....

Aitch - adding 5k to the value of a property wouldnt increase the stamp duty by 5k exactly. Or didnt you mean that?