Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Infant feeding

Get advice and support with infant feeding from other users here.

How long to keep water for bottles.

36 replies

custard1 · 07/06/2008 18:30

How long can I keep bottles of cool, boiled water in the fridge? Could I prepare them the night before for the following day when my DD starts nursey.

OP posts:
shinyshoes · 07/06/2008 18:31

The HV and midwife both said 24 hours

upsyandiggle · 07/06/2008 18:53

yes 24 hours

AllBuggiedOut · 07/06/2008 19:42

Do you mean for making up milk or for drinking water? I thought you were supposed to make the formula with hot water and allow to cool, in order to kill the salmonella. Search on here and there are lots of threads, if that is what you meant.

MrsBadger · 07/06/2008 20:12

AllBuggiedOut is right - should be fresh hot water for every feed.
In fact nursery should insist on this as it's an OFSTED-type H&S issue...

shinyshoes · 07/06/2008 20:21

My friend makes her bottles up, formula and all, she makes all 6 of them 24 hours in advance, when I told her about the midwife saying to make the water up, let it cool add milk when needed, she's never been told this.

Her daughter is 5 weeks older than mine .

custard1 · 07/06/2008 20:25

Nursery will not make up bottles from scratch so I have to send the filled bottles with cooled boiled water in and the formula measured out for them to add.

OP posts:
Bedbug · 07/06/2008 20:27

I use water straight from tap for all feeds. Why does anyone boil and cool the water? Fresh British tap water is just fine.

youngbutnotdumb · 07/06/2008 20:42

I was told 24 hours by one HV and to make them fresh by another

I always made up 6 bottles of water after his last feed around 9pm just saved hassle next day just add the powder as needed.

Sterilise,boil water, fill bottles leave to cool for 30 mins in basin of cold water and then put in fridge well thats the way I always did it anyway.

And if uhavent discovered them yet Tommee Tippee do little plastic tubs which fit inside wideneck bottles or you get different ones to fit closer to nature bottles I used both and hold 7 scoops of powder without the bulk of a seperate box just open them and pour it in they were £2 for 3 and I must say were my best baby buy!

MrsBadger · 07/06/2008 21:07

Bedbug, its not a problem with the water - formula powder isn;t sterile and sometimes contains some quite nasty bacteria.
The only way to kill them is to make sure you add the powder to hot (>70C) water.
It's best to then cool it to drinking temp and use straight away, but you can store the made-up formula in the fridge for 24h if you need to.

You can download the leaflet on best practice for making up formula from here

The risk is small, and I know you will all say 'oh I have done it the other way for years and we are fine', but why take the risk?

youngbutnotdumb · 07/06/2008 21:18

Badger

Im not going to say 'I did it this way bla de bla' I was just wondering are u health profesional at all?

Thats a genuine question BTW not as snide as it sounds

It s just because Ive heard about that but was advised against it as thats how my mum did it with me and my siblings yet I was told to put milk in cooled water as it can I cant think of the word basically go erm... LOL

The word is gone but its not good anyway.

Just a general inteest because the advice seems to change every few years as with how u put a aby to sleep everyone has a different opinion and it mixes people up which suggests there is no rite or wrong.

custard1 · 07/06/2008 21:21

Oh bloody hell now I feel like a terrible mother cos I have been making up her bottles from cool boiled water!

I have read the leaflet and therefore don't understand why the nursery I have chosen gives prepared bottles (water and then they add formula). Oh it's so confusing.

OP posts:
WilfSell · 07/06/2008 21:23

YBND, the issue is that there have been some very serious cases of illness (bacterial meningitis I believe) in Europe because cooled water did not kill bacteria in the unsterilised milk powder. The risk is small but enough to make the Dept of Health issue recent advice: so recent it contradicts most of what you will read on a formula packet.

current advice as in the leaflet recommended in MrsBadger's link is to let the water cool for no more than 30 mins to make sure it is above 65 degrees C. At this temperature you can be sure it kills any bugs.

If you must make up bottles in advance it is better to do it with very hot water then cool and store the bottles in the main part of the fridge rather than using cooled boiled water then warming: if you only warm, the powder has not come into contact with enough heat at any point in the process.

littleboyblue · 07/06/2008 21:24

After ds has gone to bed, I wash and sterilse bottles for tomorrow, fill with boiled water, let cool and put in fridge. Add the powder at feed time and warm through.
I was told water in fridge for 24 hours is fine.

turtle23 · 07/06/2008 21:24

Can anyone tell me why you cant make up your bottles for the day with just the water, then heat the water (while in the bottle) to over 70 degrees and mix?

fishie · 07/06/2008 21:29

just warming is not what you are aiming for here. the powder is the thing to be worried about, not the water.

littleboyblue · 07/06/2008 21:30

custard1, you are not a terrible mother.
When ds was born I started feeing him his milk at room temperature so bottles of water would be on the side for the day.
I'm not a bad mother, just took me a bit of time to process all advice given to me by every single person I know.
That I know of, most people store water in fridge and warm when needed, however, as been pointed out, powder is not sterile.
Take onboard all the advice given and decide what you are most comfortable with

WilfSell · 07/06/2008 21:30

turtle, you could do that but it would need some practice to be sure you'd got it to the right temp I reckon.

fishie · 07/06/2008 21:36

custard your nursery seem to be out of date here, you should show them the leaflet.

flubdub · 07/06/2008 21:45

Ok, IS WHAT I DO OK?
I put hot(just boiled) water into the sterilised bottles (all 9 of them), and then line them up in our CUPBOARD for use during the day. I put the powder in the bottles as needed, and then give to my baby. I dont heat them - theyre just room temp. Is this ok?

littleboyblue · 07/06/2008 21:49

flubdub
I gave mine room temp milk at start as this was how it was done at hospital, but was then later told that the warmer the milk the easier the wind comes up. That the only reason I started warming.
If your lo isn't showing signs of being ill, it must be ok.
My friend does what you do but she does warm and her ds is fine

littleboyblue · 07/06/2008 21:50

Oh and i left the days bottles on the side

WilfSell · 07/06/2008 23:10

flubdub and littleboyblue, it might well be 'OK' in the sense of not having created problems and might never do, but PLEASE read the link to the dept of health leaflet that MrsB put up and make your own mind up.

And please read the thread - I've explained the issue below as have others

According to them (the DoH), it is NOT OK because of a very small but real risk of serious infection from the non-sterile powder. Sorry to be blunt but the guidelines have changed recently (in the last year or so) because a very few babies have died of infection from powdered formula. Instructions are NOT correct on many formula packets and the correct guidelines are different to what many people do and are advised by friends, HVs, parents and MNers.

WilfSell · 07/06/2008 23:11

the comment 'if your lo is not showing signs of being ill, it must be OK' needs challenging I'm afraid... it doesn't work like this

threestars · 07/06/2008 23:14

For a 5 oz feed, I have started using freshly boiled water for 3oz, add 5 scoops of formula, shake, and then add 2oz of cooled boiled water from the fridge (measured from the fridge bottle, not the bottle holding the hot water, iyswim) so that it doesn't take so long to cool and give to dd.
So it's useful to know to keep the cooled boiled water in the fridge for no longer than 24 hours.

fishie · 07/06/2008 23:17

flubdub, what you are doing is WRONG. you need to heat the powder by using hot water.

whether you choose to boil the water first or sterilise the bottle doesn't matter.