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bbc news story on harmful baby bottles...

67 replies

misscathcart · 06/05/2008 08:16

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7384856.stm

on bbc 1 now also..

OP posts:
tiktok · 06/05/2008 10:10

And use a bit of common sense - bottles are the focus of the news reports because the things affect stuff that goes into the baby's mouth ie the milk.

copingvquietly · 06/05/2008 10:12

im sorry im very confused.not hard as im tired.
are you saying that avent bottles have got something dangerous in them

Liz79 · 06/05/2008 10:33

breastfed babies get bottles too! Lots of bf mums give ebm in bottles

oysterpots · 06/05/2008 10:41

Tommee Tippee Closer to Nature bottles are not BPA free but the sippy cups are, according to the person I just spoke to on the careline.

A quick google search suggests that MAM bottles are BPA free, as are glass ones, obviously. Any with a 5 in the recycling triangle ok as they are polypropylene. There also seems to be some issue concerning teats though, saying that silicone is best, whereas latex or plastic not so good. So not sure about dummies...

All on this page

redadmiral · 06/05/2008 10:44

i read (skimmed) a book years ago about the effects of hormone changing chemicals. Will look up title.

Checked out all teh references at the time and rather got the impression that glass was better, but it really wasn't that conclusive about whether much would leach out of baby bottles.

The book basically said that 'we were living in a sea' of these chemicals. They are basically impossible to avoid. I for one decided not to worry overmuch about thhe bottles, but I try not to use plastic to store food in in general, and don't let my 2 chew on plastic.

cheesesarnie · 06/05/2008 10:45

just another thing to worry parents with.dont do this dont do that,this is safe,oh no its not.blah blah

georgiegal · 06/05/2008 10:45

I'm sorry but the story clearly has come from NCT. It's a PR generated story from them. There's a press release launching the campaign on the NCT website. I'm probably coming across as anti-breastfeeding, anti NCT. Certainly not the case - breastfeeding my 8 month old and believe the NCT does great work. Just a bit irked by the scaremongering and confusion this particular story has caused. Guess the BBC could have reported it more responsibly. Right, off to enjoy the sunshine with my little boy now

kiskideesameanoldmother · 06/05/2008 10:55

this is old news.

people were smirking at 'lentil weavers' blah blah, not so long ago on Mn when this topic came up.

it was one of the things i asked Vicki Scott, at christmas time about the AVENT bottles. She knew nothing about them eventhough she was supposed to be Avent's Feeding Expert on MN. She sent me to Avent's ass covering partyline on their website.

Last month, all baby bottles and feeding cups, bowls etc with BPA were banned in Canada. It has been banned in Japan for 10 years now including its use in water bottles (some Evian, anyone?)

this chemical mimics oestrogen. In fact, it was created for use as an oestrogen replacement but they found out that it hardens plastic into a glasslike state so it became used for that.

It readily leaches into fluids whether hot or cold.

kiskideesameanoldmother · 06/05/2008 11:01

mn thread here

kiskideesameanoldmother · 06/05/2008 11:02

another one here.

tiktok · 06/05/2008 11:03

georgie, the campaign is about ensuring parents see what it is in the plastic use for the bottles - what on earth is wrong with that?

The original story is not from NCT. The original story - about the risks of some constituents in bottles - comes from all over the world. NCT's response is to call for clear labelling.

Can you honestly object to that???

Porpoise · 06/05/2008 11:06

Agree with Tiktok.

And, actually, the NCT is one of the few bodies that can voice this concern.

You won't find this story in any of the parenting mags, for example, because none of them will run it for fear of losing bottle manufacturers as advertisers.

I know. I have tried many, many times.

harpsichordcarrier · 06/05/2008 11:08

It is massively old news - and well done to the NCT for getting the news out there as there didn't seem to be any coverage at all up till now.
it is an important story - why criticise the NCT for getting it out there? I don't understand.

Porpoise · 06/05/2008 11:09

Yes, harpsi - see my previous post for why there's been little coverage up till now

kiskideesameanoldmother · 06/05/2008 11:10

easier to shoot the messenger than to inform ourselves and do something about it, harpsi.

harpsichordcarrier · 06/05/2008 11:13

lol at blaming the NCT really! how could one miss the point of this story more widely, I don't know.....
I do some work for them and lord knows they are not perfect but come on why on earth wouldn't parents want to hear about this story?
it is really appallingly sloppy thinking (paranoia) to equate health risk of plastics for babies = anti-formula feeding
because only ff babies have bottles

oiFoiF · 06/05/2008 11:16

i think it would have been more sensible to get a quote off the department of health

but plastic is everywherer wrt food, we are surely buggered

(my poor booby swelling boys)

oiFoiF · 06/05/2008 11:17

mind you it could provide most entertaining to rib MIl about her sonds man breasts being her fault for forcing him to take a bottle and not the fact he swigs beer and eats pork scratchings at all, oh no no no

Rosa · 06/05/2008 11:19

Oyster pots have just rescued my Tommy Tipee beaker ( with rubber spout that you can change ) from the bin and it for sure has a 7 on it. Also a pink one still Tommy Tipee with piglet on it has 7 clear as day . They have gone back in the bin ! ( they were both used anyway ) But will be more careful when purchasing replacements.

PinkPussyCat · 06/05/2008 11:19

I had no idea this was 'old' news... I like to think I keep very up to date with current affairs etc but this one clearly passed me by.

I use Tesco's own brand bottles which do not have any markings to indicate what they might be made of, so I have emailed to ask them. Will post details if I get a reply.

kiskideesameanoldmother · 06/05/2008 11:58

i would be very dubious of any baby bottle which is hard like glass to the touch but are really plastic. So that is 99% of bottles out there, tbh.

the only ones sold fairly widely in the UK that I would use are the MAM Ultivent and Born Free ones.

Born Free is made from a plastic that looks and feels like the Avent ones, et al but is actually a fairly new plastic.
see the link on my first link below.

redadmiral · 06/05/2008 12:05

I'm a bit out of touch at the moment, but I think the Friend's of the Earth website or Greenpeace may have links about these chemicals. BPA is not the only chemical of concern, BTW, there are others such as pthalates, and I think a few others. (BPA is often found in tinned foods as it is used in the resin they coat the inside of the tin with. Some foods seem to absorb more than others as far as I remember.)

As they are everywhere it might be worth a leeter to MP or FoE or Greenpeace membership if anyone really wants to make a difference.

I also boycott PVC products where possible as their manufacture releases lots of these type of chemicals into the environment.

redadmiral · 06/05/2008 12:05

or even letter...

Seona1973 · 06/05/2008 13:21

This website has lists of the major manufacturers and which of their products (if any) are BPA free. It was linked from the bisphenol a free website

harpsichordcarrier · 06/05/2008 13:21

is a leeter like a little letter