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Is breast really best?

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sneakypanda90 · 14/07/2023 06:22

Hello all,

About to become a first time mum. For many reasons I've pretty much decided I'll be formula feeding however baby isn't here till the end of September and I still have a pretty open mind to how she's fed changing.

However, in doing some more research just now I've discovered that breastfed babies need vitamin D drops??
Soooo, if 'breast is best' and give the baby everything they need, surely you wouldn't need to supplement?
Do you see my point? I find the information on breast feeding wildly exaggerated and how a little contradictory which just adds to my thoughts of 'whatever' when someone's going on at me about breastfeeding.

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Missingmyusername · 14/07/2023 20:02

Don’t really get the breast is best thing, is it some kind of magical elixir? 😂 do bf children never sick? do they excel in school over their bottle fed class mates? Nope!

Anniejameslastcallanniejames · 14/07/2023 20:04

You could always mix feed? Then sometimes someone else can feed the baby if you need a break. I BF my daughter but she was in hospital at a week old with jaundice so we were advised to give her some formula to help speed up the process. So I did both and it’s a really nice mix. Dad could help and its nice at night to just get your boob out, I used Kendamil which is all organic etc etc and made in the lake district. Honestly do whatever you feel like, your baby will be fine either way x

debbs77 · 14/07/2023 20:05

Formula milk is made to help the baby survive, not to thrive.

Plenty will disagree with me but it is true.

Breast IS best. It is digestible, provides antibodies, helps prevent against future cancers, diabetes etc. Formula simply doesn't offer this.

If we used the term artificial milk, rather than formula a lot less people would use it.

And I say this as a mum who has breastfed for 3 weeks with one child, and 3 years for another

Parker231 · 14/07/2023 20:13

debbs77 · 14/07/2023 20:05

Formula milk is made to help the baby survive, not to thrive.

Plenty will disagree with me but it is true.

Breast IS best. It is digestible, provides antibodies, helps prevent against future cancers, diabetes etc. Formula simply doesn't offer this.

If we used the term artificial milk, rather than formula a lot less people would use it.

And I say this as a mum who has breastfed for 3 weeks with one child, and 3 years for another

So how did my formula fed DC’s manage to grow up so healthy and get all A’s at school and 1st class degrees?

RogersOrganismicProcess · 14/07/2023 20:14

Parker231 · 14/07/2023 19:52

From Lullaby Trust - Thankfully SIDS is now very rare. If you bottle feed your baby and follow all the other pieces of safer sleep advice then the chance of SIDS is extremely low.

That doesn’t answer the question.

Also from The Lullaby Trust: “Breastfeeding lowers the risk of SIDS. Breastfeeding for at least 2 months halves the risk of SIDS but the longer you can continue the more protection it will give your baby.
Research has shown that any breastfeeding is protective against SIDS. For full NHS guidance on breastfeeding and to get help click here
Breast milk is all the nutrition your baby needs for their first 6 months of life. At 6 months you can then introduce other foods as well.
The Department of Health now recommends that babies be exclusively breastfed for at least six months and that breastfeeding is continued, with the addition of appropriate weaning foods, for as long as the mother and baby want.”

nhs.uk

Breastfeeding

Breastfeeding can take practice – read our guides on breastfeeding to find out what works best for you

https://www.nhs.uk/start4life/baby/feeding-your-baby/breastfeeding

Anniejameslastcallanniejames · 14/07/2023 20:16

debbs77 · 14/07/2023 20:05

Formula milk is made to help the baby survive, not to thrive.

Plenty will disagree with me but it is true.

Breast IS best. It is digestible, provides antibodies, helps prevent against future cancers, diabetes etc. Formula simply doesn't offer this.

If we used the term artificial milk, rather than formula a lot less people would use it.

And I say this as a mum who has breastfed for 3 weeks with one child, and 3 years for another

Plenty of babies thrive on formula, or do all formula fed babies just lay there until they can eat actual food? YOU think breast is best and thats great, some people want to Ff And thats fine. If they are not your kids don’t worry about it. Has your child you only BF for 3 weeks not thrived?

Sevenbabies · 14/07/2023 20:18

Breast milk IS better than formula but not by much-it has some immune boosting factors that just can t be replicated in formula but formula is a very, very close second. Aside from the immunity BM offers everything else is the same. One difference is that breastmilk adjusts to needs but that isn’t true of formula so babies just need to keep increasing the volume of formula
to have their nutritional needs met which isn’t a big deal really.

Combi feeding is best of both worlds and I think should be encouraged more. Was amazing for us. We didn’t wait till 6 weeks either as found when we did that dc just wasn’t interested but if you offer a bottle as well from birth maybe once a day then baby will happily switch

RogersOrganismicProcess · 14/07/2023 20:20

Tinybrother · 14/07/2023 19:55

Why? Can’t you just trust that they have made a decision that works for them? Why do they need to justify it to you?

No one needs to justify a thing.

I’m just trying to understand why a parent would make a decision that works for them, before trying the option which is optimal for their child? Many women try and then switch. Why not even try?

Tinybrother · 14/07/2023 20:29

RogersOrganismicProcess · 14/07/2023 20:20

No one needs to justify a thing.

I’m just trying to understand why a parent would make a decision that works for them, before trying the option which is optimal for their child? Many women try and then switch. Why not even try?

That is exactly the same as asking them to justify it to you.

LT2 · 14/07/2023 20:29

chooseanother · 14/07/2023 08:10

Weight loss is a total myth!

Maybe for you @OnlyFoolsnMothers but it dropped off me. A relative is breastfeeding her 8 week old and it's the same for her.

We did both have it to lose though.

Yup, me too. When I was exclusively breastfeeding my weight was my ideal! Now he's 18 months and drinking much less milk from me, I've piled it back on, back to my pre-baby weight😒

gluteustothemaximus · 14/07/2023 20:30

Yes, it is.

Wenfy · 14/07/2023 20:34

Parker231 · 14/07/2023 20:13

So how did my formula fed DC’s manage to grow up so healthy and get all A’s at school and 1st class degrees?

There is evidence to suggest breastfeeding affects kids at a genetic level and the benefits across a lifetime and beyond. Eg pcos, blood pressure risk, diabetes risk, egg/sperm quality seems to all be minimised with breastmilk. It could explain why we became unhealthier as a species when we started using formula milk — it is only beneficial for premies or babies who can’t have breastmilk for a handful of rare reasons.

Parker231 · 14/07/2023 20:35

RogersOrganismicProcess · 14/07/2023 20:20

No one needs to justify a thing.

I’m just trying to understand why a parent would make a decision that works for them, before trying the option which is optimal for their child? Many women try and then switch. Why not even try?

Because I didn’t want to. My choice. Why does anyone need to justify their decision?

LT2 · 14/07/2023 20:37

Questionsforyou · 14/07/2023 19:41

People always go on and on about 'faffing about with bottles.' It's really not difficult to open a bottle and make formula. It is expensive though!

I think they mean with the washing and sterilising bottles. Must admit, I tried bottle feeding a few times (expressed milk) and was somewhat relieved that my boy was a bottle refuser. The few times I did it, I did find it a faff! I much preferred to just unclip my bra! Might make me sound lazy but then I remember that breastfed babies do a lot of little and often feeds!! It was harder in other ways (and still is.. at 18 months he still wants to breastfeed to sleep). But oh so rewarding!

WhatWillAPearDoAtNight · 14/07/2023 20:42

IkaBaar · 14/07/2023 07:43

Breast is best on a population level, so as a society we would be healthier if all babies were breastfed. Breast milk is better due to antibodies and the fact it can change due to the babies needs. Also there is no need to sterilise and make it up, so no chance of getting that wrong. It’s also much harder to over feed a breastfed baby.

We are also now discovering and acknowledging the dangers of ultra processed food. Formula is an ultra processed food, it was mentioned by Dr van Tulleken in the documentary he did on the dangers of ultra processed food.

This. You do you but formula is ultimately a processed food.

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Squiggo · 14/07/2023 20:44

I don’t think it matters one iota, as long as a baby is fed and cared for that’s the important thing.

If you question your adult friends there is likely to be no difference between breast and bottle fed.

CultureAlienationBoredomandDespair · 14/07/2023 20:51

Parker231 · 14/07/2023 19:15

I don’t care how anyone feeds their baby but don’t accept that anyone can criticise someone else’s decision.

But that’s just crap, we criticise people’s decisions all the time-to get in debt, to make poor choices of partners etc etc. Look at the thread at the moment on nik naks the mum is being roasted for giving her child crisps and that’s fine- why should formula be treated differently?

Ostryga · 14/07/2023 21:00

WhatWillAPearDoAtNight · 14/07/2023 20:42

This. You do you but formula is ultimately a processed food.

Exactly. I can’t imagine the first thing I gave my baby was an ultra processed milk substitute.

I do get it if you can’t bf, but a baby’s instinct is to nurse straight after birth. They will search for a nipple minutes after they are born.

However, the lack of breastfeeding education in this country is criminal. So I do get why mothers think formula is appropriate after birth. It should be taught in school in sex education how to breastfeed, so it becomes very normalised.

SharonEllis · 14/07/2023 21:06

Missingmyusername · 14/07/2023 20:02

Don’t really get the breast is best thing, is it some kind of magical elixir? 😂 do bf children never sick? do they excel in school over their bottle fed class mates? Nope!

There's a huge weight of evidence that bf babies are sick less & have advantages through childhood in terms of health & achievement. How much if it is causation & how much correlation, as far as I'm aware is harder to establish. Plus, more intelligent/educated mothers bf so are more likely to have more intelligent offspring, rather than breastmilk necessarily creating more intelligent kids. And don't shoot me - look it up!!

Jigslaw · 14/07/2023 21:14

Ostryga · 14/07/2023 21:00

Exactly. I can’t imagine the first thing I gave my baby was an ultra processed milk substitute.

I do get it if you can’t bf, but a baby’s instinct is to nurse straight after birth. They will search for a nipple minutes after they are born.

However, the lack of breastfeeding education in this country is criminal. So I do get why mothers think formula is appropriate after birth. It should be taught in school in sex education how to breastfeed, so it becomes very normalised.

You can't imagine it? Really? Formula is appropriate for some mothers after birth.

I breastfed and acknowledge the benefits of doing so, I'm not claiming all is equal but comments like yours are pretty ignorant and narrow minded.

RedRobyn2021 · 14/07/2023 21:20

Wait, you want to know if human breast milk for human babies is really best verses a powdered formula made in a factory?

Am I understanding your question?

Anniejameslastcallanniejames · 14/07/2023 21:20

SharonEllis · 14/07/2023 21:06

There's a huge weight of evidence that bf babies are sick less & have advantages through childhood in terms of health & achievement. How much if it is causation & how much correlation, as far as I'm aware is harder to establish. Plus, more intelligent/educated mothers bf so are more likely to have more intelligent offspring, rather than breastmilk necessarily creating more intelligent kids. And don't shoot me - look it up!!

More intelligent and well educated mothers breast feed 😂😂😂 I’m sure they do, but that is such a load of tosh. MANY women who don’t have access to education across the world breastfeed as its free. All of the “more intelligent/educated” mothers I know - CEO’s/ women with PHD’s etc have all bottle fed because they all go back to work and have nannies and there is nothing wrong with that.

KnittedCardi · 14/07/2023 21:22

Ostryga · 14/07/2023 21:00

Exactly. I can’t imagine the first thing I gave my baby was an ultra processed milk substitute.

I do get it if you can’t bf, but a baby’s instinct is to nurse straight after birth. They will search for a nipple minutes after they are born.

However, the lack of breastfeeding education in this country is criminal. So I do get why mothers think formula is appropriate after birth. It should be taught in school in sex education how to breastfeed, so it becomes very normalised.

Well both of mine fell asleep immediately after birth, so that's bullshit. And neither was particularly interested in suckling, they were too lazy 😂

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