This has made me really sad, I just have to share it with someone.

[LadyVictorianSqualor]

the amount of misinformation on this thread that has been given by supposed HCPS

oh my god

weaning at 10 weeks

i don;t get it

i don;t get why parents and HCPS are surprised at small babies feeding frequently including during the night

and that they don;t understand that your body will make enough breast milk ,but introducing formula can undermine breastfeeding

and that babies have growth spurts

and that rice in a bottle is actually NOT the answer

it is actually quite frightening that the correct guidelines and information are just not getting through

fucking shocking
only get 6 hrs at 12 weeks
jesus ds2 is 10 mths and I only get 4-5 at best and I do NOT CARE

baby rice and rusks in bottles

are you a member of that forum and have you reported this thread to the moderators? This sort of information should not be in the public domain!

once again

Where do they get these HVs? I mean, GPs aren't paediatricians, so you almost expect some bunkum from them, but HVs are out there giving the most outdated, wrong and frankly dangerous advice to people who don't seem to have any other source of information. It's total insanity.

People who don't know better (rightly) assume that HVs, MWs, GPs etc know their stuff. So healthcare professionals have an obligation to be giving out good, sound, evidence-based advice. It's what they get paid to do FFS! This makes me SO angry.

Also, imagine an 8 week old baby that only sleeps for 6 hours! DS is 6 months and has never slept 6 hours in his life.

I've never been there beofre, I was looking up soemthing about the new night time milk from cow and gate for another poster and I came across it.

I am stunned beyond stunned. But then again I come accross so many people who are doing this and are convinced a bit of baby rice will help their LO sleep through at say, 6-8 weeks. I think its pretty widespread to be honest.

scary and depressing isnt it

Note the mention of night time milk again, as helping babies to sleep for longer.

I wonder if the manufacturers will correct this mis=understanding, and point out that it is intended to 'help you baby settle as part of his bed time routine'?
Or will they allow this impression to gain currency?

Awful. Just awful.

This is as bad - an HV telling someone to wean a premature baby at 11 weeks

And that farking night time milk

What exactly is in the stuff to make it thicker and more filling? Why does it not tell you anywhere?

Could it be because basically its a variant on baby rice (or some other starch) in the bottle?

can you imagine posting this sort of thing on there

'well, i had rice in my bottle and my gran gave me brandy on my dummy and it never did me any harm '

no wonder women are so easily scared into giving up breastfeeding, surely if babies need all these different milks, how can breasts provide it all??

there is first milk, hungry baby milk, follow on milk, toddler milk and now night time milk

what next?? school child milk? triple the price of moo juice and with lots of really important extra things that children couldn't possibly get from a balanced diet, that will make them brainier and happier ....

Two of my friends weaned their LO's at 5 weeks. Makes me feel sad that people completely disregard the guidelines-yes it may have been normal to wean at 10 weeks or whatever a few years ago but further research has been done since then that shows it isn't the best thing to do.

Am always a bit when people say on a forum "My HV or GP told me...". I think sometimes people just say an HCP gave them that advice to justify what they do

Oh dear.

Such a shame that nobody knows what would be considered normal. ie, night waking, babies being hungry (why not??), soft poo....

Yes I know someone who weaned her 8 weeks premature baby at 11 weeks - so only three weeks adjusted age. Straight onto little tins of bacon and beans, and value chocolate pudding. And evaporated mlk in the bottle at night from birth - "well how do you think they managed in the war?". Really.

Why? Why??

5 weeks???? why?

i mean really? why?

why would anyone think that 5 weeks after birth, when your baby has barely realised they are not a part of you any more, they would need food?? why?

i think societally, our perceptions of how babies should be is so skewed

i cant actually imagine trying or wanting to feed solids to baby that young?

oops....I registered, have reported the posts about rusks to the moderator and have posted a reply....I just couldn't let her give rusks to a 10 week old baby!

think I might have upset some of the other posters, but I think I did so in the nicest possible way

Oooh very good!

It's things like this that makes me so happy that I found MN while I was pg otherwise it would be me following advice like that. My first HV told me to give DD a bottle of formula before bedtime to help her sleep I just nodded and didn't take her advice.

My new HV is wonderful, brilliant, a god send and I credit her with getting me through some of the most awful sleep deprived days. It is thanks to her advice that DH and I were able to get DD sleeping better, waking up only once in the night for a feed. and now at 10 weeks sleeping between 7-12 hours a night. I am drunk on sleep

fantastic post LadyVictorianSqualor!well done!

I registered and replied too.

One of them because they were big babies and were drinking 8oz bottles every 4 hours and were hungry in between. The other was breastfeeding and wanted him to go longer between feeds and sleep through the night. The first claims her HV advised it rather than overfeeding on milk, the second didn't tell her HV because she was scared of her reaction. I am always so shocked at the amount of people that expect such a young baby to sleep all night without feeding-they have such tiny tummies. Ok I'll admit it isn't ideal (normal??) for my 20 month old to still wake at night for milk but my 7 week old?!

Having read her post a few times, what is her problem exactly? It just sounds like she is a panicking mum who is confronted with loads of (mis)information. She has a 10 week old feeding every 4 hours. That is fab! I eat more often than that!

I think I shall restrain myself from posting as am likely to make rude comments. Shall leave it to the more tactfull among us, I'll settle for throwing my arms around the wonderful pool of hormonal confrontation and great advice that is MN instead and praise the day I found it.